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WTF is going on with me

sonicwhite

sonicwhite

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Okay I noticed every time I try to detox off of phenibut. I get this gasping for breath right before I fall asleep. I never had it before the phen so I know it's causing it. It's like my mind will think a thought that triggers this motion to jerk and gasp for breath right before I doze off. It s really concerning me since I do not want to die and I want off this crap......When people say the withdrawals are bad, they mean it! because this is worse then kpin or gabapentin withdrawals in the way it hit's you.


:EDIT also I want to include that I have psychosis so I am afraid that I will go psychotic thru withdrawals.
 
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I'm trying to taper but get tempted to use more....So one day I will use like two grams maybe more then somedays I try to limit because of the sedation. I don't like to be sedated where I just sleep. But it has waxed and waned from 2 grams to 4 gram's and thats about it. I can see that it's getting out of control....I have been using for 3 weeks straight and I think it's apnea and I notice it right before I node off....It's really strange. It's like my body will feel this rush and I wake up and I am breathing normally but I have this sudden urge to breath in alot of air....I also laugh at things I would normally just think about before I sleep. Alot of weird movements I make before I'm dozing off.
 
Sounds a little like anxiety to be honest - I have panic attacks and sleep paralysis so I'll quite often jerk upright and inhale sharply with a pounding heart.
Given phenibut is an anxiolytic, anxiety during WD/tapering is certainly possible.
 
I HAD THIS SAME EXACT PROBLEM WHEN I WAS IN REHAB FOR 3-4 MONTHS. RIGHT BEFORE I WOULD FALL ASLEEP, i would lose my breath and would have to immediately sit up and catch my breath, i would get dizzy too, and my chest would feel like there was pressure on it. i only get this weird phenomenon as im laying down right before i start to drift off, sometimes i would get super dizzy like im on a roller coaster, and would have to get out of bed, sometimes my chest and heart would pound. I WAS CONVINCED it was a heart issue, as my grandfather died of a heart attack at age 30, and my uncle just had a heart attack, his 2nd one and is in his 50's..so i got all types of tests done, and everything came back normal. the asshole shrink kept telling me it was panic attacks, and that not even the medicine i was on (Trazadone) will cause what i was going through, i cussed his ass out, i thought i knew what a panic attack was, but wow it really is a physical issue and feels so real and horrible....come to find out, the trazadone was the reason why i was having these episodes at night, i believe the term is called "vertigo", i stopped the trazadone, and symptoms went away...but its odd, i been on trazadone for years and never had the issue, actually when i started back on Trazdone and remeron at the same time thats when it happened, even sitting down, if i would doze off i would get very painful body sensations..and its a shame cuz remeron really helped with my depression, i dont care what that doctor said, ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE, even if that means a medication can cause the issues i had...it was a combo of panic attacks, and a reaction to trazadone
 
SproutOnSmack said:
Sounds a little like anxiety to be honest - I have panic attacks and sleep paralysis so I'll quite often jerk upright and inhale sharply with a pounding heart.
Given phenibut is an anxiolytic, anxiety during WD/tapering is certainly possible.
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What's weird is I have panic and sleep paralysis often too, exept both have kind of gone away in me (I will still go through panic but not nearly as frequently as I used to).

I thought it was funny when someone told me they had only had 1 panic attack. I was like, wow, I have had, a countless number of them, anywhere from hundreds to thousands.
 
Dumped out my container and 100 g pheninut like three days ago. I have no desire to go thru anything that may kill mee. So far the only withdrawal symptom I have is insomnia but last night I slept a good four hours...Other then that I do not plan on using this stuff again. Good if you have self control. A total nightmare if not.
 
sonicwhite said:
Dumped out my container and 100 g pheninut like three days ago. I have no desire to go thru anything that may kill mee. So far the only withdrawal symptom I have is insomnia but last night I slept a good four hours...Other then that I do not plan on using this stuff again. Good if you have self control. A total nightmare if not.
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dude, you made the best choice....I went through almost the exact same situation back in April. I was taking 1-3 gram doses every day for ten days, and I didn't realize until day 9 that the phenibut was causing me problems....shakes, occasional spams, nervousness etc. by day 10 the effects had gotten so bad (brain skips, static noise in my visual field, audible hallucinations), I went to the emergency room over fears of entering seizure territory. worst night of my life to that point. took them hours just to get someone in the room who even knew what a fucking GABA receptor was and had some decent advice...but until then people kept running in and out and asking the same questions, then ran a whole bunch of expensive tests, and after all of that they still refused to give me any kind of sedative (or even a goddamn IV line), while I had to lie there spasming and trying my hardest not to go into convulsions. eventually was told to ditch the phenibut (really, trying to "taper" just makes it worse) and sent home and told to rest...and I'd just ran out of weed too :(

the withdrawal itself wasn't too awful bad...worst effects were gone by day 1, but couldn't sleep or think straight until day 4-ish. had some kratom tea to make days more tolerable helped, plus some kava to help with sleep (it did...a bit). overall the scariest shit I've ever gone through, but I won't lie and say it wasn't fascinating to observe such a bizarre mental state.
 
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Ya bro. i understnad. Last night I got 8 hours sleep and today I woke up to my normal self......It's crazy how we who have addicted personalities can be triggered by others experience just to see if it's as good as they say it is.....It ain't nothing to brag about and I really think it was my only option.
 
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