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Would you tell your doctor about your mdma use?

Would you tell your doctor about your mdma use?

  • No.

    Votes: 50 33.6%
  • He/she already knows. I have already told him/her

    Votes: 15 10.1%
  • Yes, if the doctor asked me first.

    Votes: 53 35.6%
  • Yes.

    Votes: 31 20.8%

  • Total voters
    149
  • Poll closed .
thujone said:
GPs typically know jack shit about illicit drugs. tbh, if i had any issues that i thought were drug related i'd consult BL first.... so no, i wouldn't give my doc any fucking reason to think with bias and probably misdiagnose a problem that may be completely unrelated due to that bias

felix said:
absolutely no way.

here in the uk we sometimes have to give permission for our employers to have access to our medical records. (hey, if you don't like it, you don't have to take the job, right? )

EDIT: if i thought it was relevant to a serious health problem then of course I would, but 99% of the time i definitely wouldn't.

Amen. I would never tell a doctor or GP unless it were a life/death situation.
In todays climate, its very unwise to reveal such information unless its absolutely necessary. Any information about prior drug use thats revealed will remain on file forever.
 
My doctor knows about all of my drug use, she is a family friend and one of the nicest people ive ever met. So absolutely.

And I 100% agree, your doctors have to know everything otherwise they arent going to be able to help you.
 
the_ketaman said:
My doctor knows about all of my drug use, she is a family friend and one of the nicest people ive ever met. So absolutely.

And I 100% agree, your doctors have to know everything otherwise they arent going to be able to help you.

All doctors aren't "friends of the family", your example has obviously biased your opinion. I'm happy for you, but its naive to say that because your doctor is a friend of your family, that everyone should tell their doctor everything.
Seriously, what does the average GP/doctor know about MDMA that you don't?

Anyone who tells their doctor about their MDMA use when its not a life/death situation, and has any hope of a career in life, is a complete fool. Its a witch hunt out there, don't admit to anything, because it will be a matter of time before your employer (as well as the government) finds out.
Imagine what would happen if you should get a disease (unrelated to drugs) and you needed a replacement liver. If your medical file says (by your own admission) that you're a drug taker, you have little or no chance in receiving a new organ, lifesaving or not. There are many people looking for organs, and most have never taken drugs according to their medical files.
That's just one example, I'm sure there are many others.
 
^^Ok fucking chill, you obviousely wrongly interpreted what I had to say. When did I say everyone should tell their doctors about their drug use? I just said that I did and im glad I did, here in Australia(we have rights here, I dunno about you) there is something called patient/doctor confidentiality, that means the doctor cant say shit unless you want him/her to.

If you have health issues and it has something to do with MDMA, you arent always going to know its because of MDMA. The only way someone can find out is through a doctor. I found out that my skin problems are from my drug use, I wouldnt have known that unless I went to the doctor. My skin problems arent life threatening, but id certainly like them to go away.
 
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125mg said:
Its a witch hunt out there, don't admit to anything, because it will be a matter of time before your employer (as well as the government) finds out.
Imagine what would happen if you should get a disease (unrelated to drugs) and you needed a replacement liver. If your medical file says (by your own admission) that you're a drug taker, you have little or no chance in receiving a new organ, lifesaving or not. There are many people looking for organs, and most have never taken drugs according to their medical files.

Can you point me to any evidence that transplants are refused on the grounds that a patient has a prior history of drug use? I've seen media reports where doctors claimed it would be pointless to give a transplant in situations like an elderly alcoholic who had no hope of quitting drinking. I'd be interested to hear of any real-life examples of the scenario you describe.

On your first point: doesn't your country have a Privacy Act? I can tell you if my doctor gave out that information without my permission, I'd sue, win, and they'd probably be struck off.
 
125mg said:
All doctors aren't "friends of the family", your example has obviously biased your opinion. I'm happy for you, but its naive to say that because your doctor is a friend of your family, that everyone should tell their doctor everything.
Seriously, what does the average GP/doctor know about MDMA that you don't?

Anyone who tells their doctor about their MDMA use when its not a life/death situation, and has any hope of a career in life, is a complete fool. Its a witch hunt out there, don't admit to anything, because it will be a matter of time before your employer (as well as the government) finds out.
Imagine what would happen if you should get a disease (unrelated to drugs) and you needed a replacement liver. If your medical file says (by your own admission) that you're a drug taker, you have little or no chance in receiving a new organ, lifesaving or not. There are many people looking for organs, and most have never taken drugs according to their medical files.
That's just one example, I'm sure there are many others.


Hold the phone champ.............. I totally agree with Ketamans post.

My doc is not a friend of the family, he is just a doctor.

He didnt lecture me, he just accepts.

There is No way it can ever affect me except that he knows so he can take that into consideration if he thinks it may be an issue...........I being the user may be biased.

Its just never been a problem at all.

He has known for about 3 years I guess.

He also knows I used speed and also a short stint with grass.



Maybe we are just lucky here in Australia.
 
We all have our reasons for the choices me make, and we have to live with them. Although some people have willingly informed their doctor about their recreational ecstasy "habit" and as of yet not experienced any problems, I still feel that is unwise. Would other people fair the same way?
I wonder how far reaching those consequences could be.
Did you realise that laws could be passed at any time forbidding you from ever : working with children, in the medical profession, becoming a pilot, busdriver, joining the military, owning a firearm or goodness knows what else.
Sorry peeps, but you tell your doctor you take ecstasy at your own risk.

We should live in a world where we can tell our doctor anything and everything, afterall how can he/she help without knowing? But we live in the real world where drug taking is considered a serious no no.
I don't want to argue, the above is just my own opinion thats all.
Maybe I'm biased because in my profession if anyone found out I had taken X, it would ruin my career. I would lose my job, and have little chance of finding another in the same profession. (and no I'm not an athlete..lol)
 
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I Simply Could Afford It... In Many Ways....

MazDan said:
Maybe we are just lucky here in Australia.

I know I am...

But I have a Doc fo' my anxiety/prescribin' my alpra...
...an' I see a medical centre fo' all other issues...

...At this point,
I really don' need someone pullin' me off my logs...
...an' I doubt my GP would understand my MDxx use,
an' may try doin' that if he knew about it...

...so Yes if it's at the medical centre,
No if it's my Benzo-scriber...

To much 'risk' in bein' pull'd off the list...

Both Bulk-Bill, too.

Champs.

Much may change if they get that Aus-Wide Medical Data-Bank Happ'nin...
:|

PEACE
UnS
:)
 
i went to the hospital one night because my friend had done something stupid and broke his face bone at 3 place (he tried to do a backflip and smashed his face on the corner of a table)

so we dragged his sorry ass out to the town only hospital, middle of the night (we had been abusing ketamine all night, specially my friend with the broken face)
and they ask him if he had used drugs and he told them... they didnt make a big deal about it, they just then asked us if did other things that he would have forgot and could trouble with the medication they were gonna give him.

one of my friend even went in the hospital washroom to do another line of k and walks out with his shades and a big fucking grin on his face!!!
 
the_ketaman said:
^^Ok fucking chill, you obviousely wrongly interpreted what I had to say. When did I say everyone should tell their doctors about their drug use?

you said:
the_ketaman said:
And I 100% agree, your doctors have to know everything otherwise they arent going to be able to help you.

I thought you were saying that everyone should run off and tell their doctors about their drug use. But after pondering for a few moments, I now think you're just saying that if you don't tell them, then don't hold them responsible if something is misdiagnosed.
Sorry for the misinterpretation.
 
I would never tell them. They would hold that shit against me probably if I ever needed a serious prescription for a controlled substance.
 
125mg said:
Did you realise that laws could be passed at any time forbidding you from ever : working with children, in the medical profession, becoming a pilot, busdriver, joining the military, owning a firearm or goodness knows what else.
Sorry peeps, but you tell your doctor you take ecstasy at your own risk.

I find that incredibly unlikely. And, again, it assumes that if such a law was passed, my doctor would immediately run out and tell the relevant authorities. Which I find very unlikely. Not to mention, as I said, that privacy legislation would prevent it (at least where I am; and I'm pretty sure in the UK, as well). [heh, if you banned all the druggy London teachers from teaching, you'd have even more of a shortage there than you do now. It ain't going to happen]
 
^^ That's very true, and drug use is extremely common, and yes here in the states there is a shortage of educated professionals and even skilled labor. And yes, we do have a privacy act, and by law, no doctor, hospital, etc can release medical records without a court order unless there is a serious risk of harm if they don't. People can and have been sued for doing so. However, in that last fact lies a point, people have been sued, because even people in the medical profession are not always ethical and don't always follow the letter of the law. (see this thread) Further, the federal government, under the current and future new legislation (i.e. The Patriot Act) may very well be able to view the complete medical records of anybody. And, of couse, even off the record rumor doesn't come from nowhere.
 
If they are trying to diagnose a problem and you hold back basic information like your substance use then really, what is the point of going to the doctor? What a waste of money.

If your doctor is prescribing your medicines, then they need to now what else you are taking in case it is contraindicated.

Maybe the drugs you are taking be relying on the same enzymes to break them down as the medicine they prescribe you and the two are going to interact dangerously or maybe your excessive ecstasy and amphetamine use has resulted in your displaying symptoms of depression or other mental illness, the doctor will be thinking about prescribing you some centrally active psych medicines which are going to interact with your drugs.

Maybe they are medicines which could cause serotonin syndrome and kill you unneccessarily, or maybe they will give you an SSRI that cancels out the effects of MDMA and they don't know about your drug usage so they don't think to offer alternative help or give you the right advice and you just assume you are getting dud ecstasy pills so you take more of them or start buying street pills that are not ecstasy so that they work better.

There are a raft of reasons why you should find a doctor that you trust.

If in doubt, check that they understand the hippocratic oath, and ask them their opinion on it, make them sign something if you are really paranoid. This very behaviour alone may help them to get an accurate diagnosis!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocratic_oath

Hippocratic oath said:
All that may come to my knowledge in the exercise of my profession or in daily commerce with men, which ought not to be spread abroad, I will keep secret and will never reveal.
 
starboy said:
If they are trying to diagnose a problem and you hold back basic information like your substance use then really, what is the point of going to the doctor? What a waste of money.

Well, IMO, doctors are a generally waste of both time and money, unless you're dying or have bones protruding through your skin or something. Especially since I can look up symptoms, diseases, and drug interactions, and order nearly any non-opiate (and even a few opiates) online legally with or without a "prescription," all without even getting dressed.

IMO, If you think your doctor should know you use illegal drugs, be smart and don't live in the United States.
 
Nope. Unless it was something extremely serious and I had like major brain damage, but I doubt that would happen since I only roll once every 1-2 months.
 
I don't roll often enough for it to be something I'd tell my doctor about. She rags on me all the time for smoking, and is just generally pretty intolerant. I'd hate to see her go off on me about drugs... I should probably just get a new doctor... :p
 
Definitely would do and have done. My GP knows all about my drug use, he would, he scripted me for about 5 years. Honestly is appreciated by some GPs. Felix your fears are not necessarily valid. Upon asking my GP about this he said he would avoid and answer in general terms or even switch context or timeframe if needed. My doctor <3 isn't some miserable whisky swilling old Caledonian reprobate with a hatred for mankind tho.
 
I told my doctor when I was having health problems associated with taking too many pills one weekend.

She was no help whatsoever. She just sent me off for some blood tests. Doctors don't know shit about ecstasy.
 
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