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Social Would you rather be 60 and ....

Regards to physical health only - you are age 60 - Drugs or Sports worse for body?

  • Spent teens and 20s playing physically demanding sports at a high level

    Votes: 4 30.8%
  • Spent teens and 20s using drugs in a somewhat informed manner

    Votes: 9 69.2%

  • Total voters
    13
People who play team sports especially or played them when they were young seem to be more outgoing, mentally stable and relaxed in social situations
It depends on the person and if they could assimilate into the culture of the locker room. Hazing was rampant when I was playing football and a bunch of the guys became recluses due to it. If you weren't a bully you didn't fit in. You had to fight your own teammates sometimes because if you didn't they would try to stuff you into a trash can or mess with you in other ways.

The guy that was at the bottom of the totem pole on my football team got messed up for life. He tried to become a cop after we finished school but he only managed to stay on the force for a few years before he got caught up in a scandal. He was stalking women he'd pulled over because he had access to their information through the cop's database.

He was a really nice guy before football. He was never the same after he went through three years of being the team's punching bag. He was the guy that got bullied everyday by the starting players. People that were getting bullied would bully him to try to fit-in with the other people and take attention off themselves. I walked into the locker room and found him stuffed in a trash can more than once. They'd shit in his bag and do all kinds of terrible stuff to him.

I didn't like playing sports for our high school because of what I saw going on in the locker room. A lot of people joined the team in an attempt to fit-in better with the school's culture. They thought if they joined the team they'd start getting more positive attention from the girls. Most of the time it didn't work out.

From what I've seen with team sports usually you have a core group of 8-12 guys that are really close and get the experience everyone that joined the team was seeking. Everyone else is hazed and bullied hard because they're all trying to get them to quit. The coaches encourage it and join in. Maybe things are different now but back then that's how it was.
 
It depends on the person and if they could assimilate into the culture of the locker room. Hazing was rampant when I was playing football and a bunch of the guys became recluses due to it. If you weren't a bully you didn't fit in. You had to fight your own teammates sometimes because if you didn't they would try to stuff you into a trash can or mess with you in other ways.

The guy that was at the bottom of the totem pole on my football team got messed up for life. He tried to become a cop after we finished school but he only managed to stay on the force for a few years before he got caught up in a scandal. He was stalking women he'd pulled over because he had access to their information through the cop's database.

He was a really nice guy before football. He was never the same after he went through three years of being the team's punching bag. He was the guy that got bullied everyday by the starting players. People that were getting bullied would bully him to try to fit-in with the other people and take attention off themselves. I walked into the locker room and found him stuffed in a trash can more than once. They'd shit in his bag and do all kinds of terrible stuff to him.

I didn't like playing sports for our high school because of what I saw going on in the locker room. A lot of people joined the team in an attempt to fit-in better with the school's culture. They thought if they joined the team they'd start getting more positive attention from the girls. Most of the time it didn't work out.

From what I've seen with team sports usually you have a core group of 8-12 guys that are really close and get the experience everyone that joined the team was seeking. Everyone else is hazed and bullied hard because they're all trying to get them to quit. The coaches encourage it and join in. Maybe things are different now but back then that's how it was.
Yeh it is intimidating being in changing rooms,I played football (soccer) at under 17s and there was always banter between a core of players just like in any group situation but nothing like what your describing in fact the smallest,most introvert and just to top it off ginger never got any hassle because he was by far the best player
Even quiet kids at school never got bullied if they were good at football
I realise it's 2 different sports the closest hazing scenario I can think of is rugby
It wasn't that long ago that it was leaked to press that professional rugby players were forcing junior players to stick an opened bottle of beer up their arse and walk up and down the bus without spilling .
I would imagine that is just the tip of the iceberg
 
Even quiet kids at school never got bullied if they were good at football
I realise it's 2 different sports the closest hazing scenario I can think of is rugby
It wasn't that long ago that it was leaked to press that professional rugby players were forcing junior players to stick an opened bottle of beer up their arse and walk up and down the bus without spilling .
I would imagine that is just the tip of the iceberg

A lot of the stuff I described above was caused by some new rule the school had passed a few years before I got there. People that wouldn't have normally made the team were allowed to join because of the "everyone should get a chance to play" rule. They added something called 5th quarter to every game where the kids that wouldn't normally get to play at all were able to play for 2 minutes. Anyone that showed up to try-outs was guaranteed a spot on the team. As long as you came to every practice you were going to get at least 2 minutes of play time.

The starting players and coaches hated it. They didn't want those kids around and did everything they could to run them off. Football practice was torture. They'd do things like make us run in the heat for hours and deny us water. You weren't allowed a sip of water even if you were close to passing out from exhaustion. They made us run right beside to the water fountains for hours sometimes. They had another torture method called the Iron Man. You'd run to the 10 yard line and back, then the 20, the 30, the 40 all the way to the 100 and back. We were in groups of 5 so you barely got a chance to rest and sometimes they'd make us do it all day. Another thing they liked to do was bring in college players that were massive full grown men and make us line up across from them and hit them over and over again. Most of the things the coaches were doing were illegal but no one ever did anything about it.

Starting positions weren't determined by ability either. We had a kid that could throw the football further than anyone else and always hit the target. He had high QB IQ and could run almost as good as our star running back. He should have been starting every game. But he was from a poor family and his Dad wasn't on the booster club. Instead we had a starting QB that couldn't throw a spiral if his life depended on it. He'd get sacked all of the time and blame the other players for his mistakes. His Dad was rich and the head of the booster club. I bet his Dad donated thousands of dollars every season to the team.

I saw so many fights start over uniforms. We only had enough new uniforms for about half the team. All the others were blood soaked beat up uniforms from the 1970s. They couldn't play favorites when they were assigned each week. They had to randomly pass them out to different people to keep the school board off their backs. If you were one of the people that wasn't playing in the real game and you ended up with a new uniform you were expected to voluntarily trade it with a starting player. If you didn't you'd piss them all off and they'd bully you hard.

We also had this dumb ritual where on the first day of try-outs every year the team would get together and call freshman that had signed up into a classroom. Then they beat the shit out of them. A long standing tradition going back for decades. I went through it myself and so did everyone else.

In my third year on the team it caused big problems. We'd already gone through 4 or 5 freshman that all just happened to be white guys. When the first black kid got called into the room the other black players refused to punch him. This caused a lot of hurt feelings over racism and started a brawl. They had to send in a bunch of teachers and the school resources officer to break the fight up. That fight didn't stop all season. It would randomly start up again in the locker room during practice and before and/or after games. Someone would say the wrong thing and a brawl would break out. I tried not to participate in it but when you're trapped in a room with people throwing blows you sometimes have to defend yourself. It got so bad that they had to cancel the last 5 games of the season. We tried to play the home coming game but a big fight broke out in the locker room at half time because we were losing badly to our rivals. People started blaming each other and it went right back into the racism thing.

I quit the team that year. The next year they fired the head coach and made a lot of changes. The beating the freshman ritual wasn't allowed anymore. They kept doing it but they had to start doing it off school grounds.

Football sucked. I wish I'd never joined the team. I only tried out to see if I could make it and to have an excuse to work out after school. I was trying to put on muscle and being on the football team came with a lot of perks. You got to skip class all of the time, you were untouchable as far as being suspended goes and you didn't have to do your own homework if you didn't want to (the cheerleaders would do it for you). It wasn't worth it. I didn't get bullied too badly because I let it be known early that I wasn't going to put up with it. But I got my fair share of hazing and into several fights over it.

In the three years I played we never had a winning record for a season and never made the playoffs. The team was a disaster due to all the parents playing politics to get their own children a place on the starting lineup. We only beat our rivals once and we didn't do it at home coming we beat them while playing at their school.

Football culture is America is stupid. I guess I should be thankful it wasn't as bad as when my Dad was going to school. Back in the 1970s someone cut the lights off during a game and when they came back on the spectators from both sides had rushed the field and started to brawl. Several people guy stabbed. They took it really serious.

Our rivals were all on roids and cheated every way you could imagine. They had several students that were over the age of 18 but they claimed they were 16-17. People that should have been playing on college teams. They'd recruit players from all over the country and pay them to play for a season or two. It was wild.
 
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A lot of the stuff I described above was caused by some new rule the school had passed a few years before I got there. People that wouldn't have normally made the team were allowed to join because of the "everyone should get a chance to play" rule. They added something called 5th quarter to every game where the kids that wouldn't normally get to play at all were able to play for 2 minutes. Anyone that showed up to try-outs was guaranteed a spot on the team. As long as you came to every practice you were going to get at least 2 minutes of play time.

The starting players and coaches hated it. They didn't want those kids around and did everything they could to run them off. Football practice was torture. They'd do things like make us run in the heat for hours and deny us water. You weren't allowed a sip of water even if you were close to passing out from exhaustion. They made us run right beside to the water fountains for hours sometimes. They had another torture method called the Iron Man. You'd run to the 10 yard line and back, then the 20, the 30, the 40 all the way to the 100 and back. We were in groups of 5 so you barely got a chance to rest and sometimes they'd make us do it all day. Another thing they liked to do was bring in college players that were massive full grown men and make us line up across from them and hit them over and over again. Most of the things the coaches were doing were illegal but no one ever did anything about it.

Starting positions weren't determined by ability either. We had a kid that could throw the football further than anyone else and always hit the target. He had high QB IQ and could run almost as good as our star running back. He should have been starting every game. But he was from a poor family and his Dad wasn't on the booster club. Instead we had a starting QB that couldn't throw a spiral if his life depended on it. He'd get sacked all of the time and blame the other players for his mistakes. His Dad was rich and the head of the booster club. I bet his Dad donated thousands of dollars every season to the team.

I saw so many fights start over uniforms. We only had enough new uniforms for about half the team. All the others were blood soaked beat up uniforms from the 1970s. They couldn't play favorites when they were assigned each week. They had to randomly pass them out to different people to keep the school board off their backs. If you were one of the people that wasn't playing in the real game and you ended up with a new uniform you were expected to voluntarily trade it with a starting player. If you didn't you'd piss them all off and they'd bully you hard.

We also had this dumb ritual where on the first day of try-outs every year the team would get together and call freshman that had signed up into a classroom. Then they beat the shit out of them. A long standing tradition going back for decades. I went through it myself and so did everyone else.

In my third year on the team it caused big problems. We'd already gone through 4 or 5 freshman that all just happened to be white guys. When the first black kid got called into the room the other black players refused to punch him. This caused a lot of hurt feelings over racism and started a brawl. They had to send in a bunch of teachers and the school resources officer to break the fight up. That fight didn't stop all season. It would randomly start up again in the locker room during practice and before and/or after games. Someone would say the wrong thing and a brawl would break out. I tried not to participate in it but when you're trapped in a room with people throwing blows you sometimes have to defend yourself. It got so bad that they had to cancel the last 5 games of the season. We tried to play the home coming game but a big fight broke out in the locker room at half time because we were losing badly to our rivals. People started blaming each other and it went right back into the racism thing.

I quit the team that year. The next year they fired the head coach and made a lot of changes. The beating the freshman ritual wasn't allowed anymore. They kept doing it but they had to start doing it off school grounds.

Football sucked. I wish I'd never joined the team. I only tried out to see if I could make it and to have an excuse to work out after school. I was trying to put on muscle and being on the football team came with a lot of perks. You got to skip class all of the time, you were untouchable as far as being suspended goes and you didn't have to do your own homework if you didn't want to (the cheerleaders would do it for you). It wasn't worth it. I didn't get bullied too badly because I let it be known early that I wasn't going to put up with it. But I got my fair share of hazing and into several fights over it.

In the three years I played we never had a winning record for a season and never made the playoffs. The team was a disaster due to all the parents playing politics to get their own children a place on the starting lineup. We only beat our rivals once and we didn't do it at home coming we beat them while playing at their school.

Football culture is America is stupid. I guess I should be thankful it wasn't as bad as when my Dad was going to school. Back in the 1970s someone cut the lights off during a game and when they came back on the spectators from both sides had rushed the field and started to brawl. Several people guy stabbed. They took it really serious.

Our rivals were all on roids and cheated every way you could imagine. They had several students that were over the age of 18 but they claimed they were 16-17. People that should have been playing on college teams. They'd recruit players from all over the country and pay them to play for a season or two. It was wild.
I like nearly all sports but I just can't get my head around American football, I suppose rugby is the only sport that resembles it but only in the shape of the ball lol.i just don't understand all the plays and stoppages, I suppose it's all about gaining yards
 
I like nearly all sports but I just can't get my head around American football, I suppose rugby is the only sport that resembles it but only in the shape of the ball lol.i just don't understand all the plays and stoppages, I suppose it's all about gaining yards
Football today isn't like it was just 15 years ago. Used to be that play didn't stop all of the time like it does now. They changed a lot of rules to make it more of an offensive game. Most of the things you used to be able to do on defense are now deemed illegal and too dangerous. They say it's because they care about the health of the players but in reality it was changed to make it a higher scoring game and to sell more commercial time. Well that and to protect their investments on higher paid players.

Football is more like a chess game where the pawns and other pieces are humans. There is deep strategy happening with play calling and counter play calling. There is a ton of stuff going on that a casual viewer doesn't understand. Motorsport used to be the same way. People joked about it being rednecks driving in circles but there was deep strategy to it that would play out over the course of a race.

They did the same thing with hockey and basketball. I went to a hockey game for the first time in years recently and it doesn't resemble the game I played 20 years ago. Higher scoring games appeal to the casual viewers more than defensive struggles.

The position I played when I was playing youth league hockey doesn't exist anymore. The position I played on my team was called an Enforcer. It was our job to lay big hits on opposing players and protect our scorers. If someone checked one of my teammates hard I was supposed to go out and hunt them down. Lay big hits on them and if need be get into a fight. The players policed themselves instead of relying on the ref to stop play and hand out infractions. Players on the other team knew not to try and hurt my teammates because I would hunt them down and hurt them in retaliation. After a couple of years I didn't have to fight or check anyone that hard because I'd built up a reputation and people didn't want to try me. I could protect my teammates on reputation alone.

Hockey isn't like that anymore. They hand out year long suspensions to people that play like that. Now it's more like watching a bunch of figure skaters glide around and instead of playing defense the way you win is taking more shots on goal. Which means a higher scoring game that looks better on TV.
 
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Football today isn't like it was just 15 years ago. Used to be that play didn't stop all of the time like it does now. They changed a lot of rules to make it more of an offensive game. Most of the things you used to be able to do on defense are now deemed illegal and too dangerous. They say it's because they care about the health of the players but in reality it was changed to make it a higher scoring game and to sell more commercial time. Well that and to protect their investments on higher paid players.

Football is more like a chess game where the pawns and other pieces are humans. There is deep strategy happening with play calling and counter play calling. There is a ton of stuff going on that a casual viewer doesn't understand. Motorsport used to be the same way. People joked about it being rednecks driving in circles but there was deep strategy to it that would play out over the course of a race.

They did the same thing with hockey and basketball. I went to a hockey game for the first time in years recently and it doesn't resemble the game I played 20 years ago. Higher scoring games appeal to the casual viewers more than defensive struggles.

The position I played when I was playing youth league hockey doesn't exist anymore. The position I played on my team was called an Enforcer. It was our job to lay big hits on opposing players and protect our scorers. If someone checked one of my teammates hard I was supposed to go out and hunt them down. Lay big hits on them and if need be get into a fight. The players policed themselves instead of relying on the ref to stop play and hand out infractions. Players on the other team knew not to try and hurt my teammates because I would hunt them down and hurt them in retaliation. After a couple of years I didn't have to fight or check anyone that hard because I'd built up a reputation and people didn't want to try me. I could protect my teammates on reputation alone.

Hockey isn't like that anymore. They hand out year long suspensions to people that play like that. Now it's more like watching a bunch of figure skaters glide around and instead of playing defense the way you win is taking more shots on goal. Which means a higher scoring game that looks better on TV.
I get what your saying,when I watch basket ball it's just 1 team scoring at one end then the other team doing the same when the game restarts.it gets boring after a while
I know Americans aren't into soccer because its not a high scoring game or shouldn't be if its 2 quality teams playing each other .
The Italians have an art of defending (catenaccio)they revere almost as much as goal scoring .
Most sport has become more family based including soccer which is a good thing compared to the hooliganism of the 80s
The UK stadiams as a whole are very safe places to go unless its a European game with away supporters, Ive found the Dutch to be the worst away supporters
 
Locker room culture, bunch of naked homophobic guy s gathered in decayed group shower. Good to have witnessed that, certainly qualifies as a sport. Decay of humanity in general. Volleyball any day, mixed ladies and gentlemen well when i was in my puberty.

These day s that showering phase is questioned. Outdated & labeled unhygienic. :ROFLMAO:
 
Locker room culture, bunch of naked homophobic guy s gathered in decayed group shower. Good to have witnessed that, certainly qualifies as a sport. Decay of humanity in general. Volleyball any day, mixed ladies and gentlemen well when i was in my puberty.

These day s that showering phase is questioned. Outdated & labeled unhygienic. :ROFLMAO:
Yeh bet most superstars keep their pants on in shower room (underwear) and prob got their own individual shower cubicle
 
Love to shower btw alone or with a partner. but with a group of random one sex/ same aged individuals. Questionablae, far from natural. That is a sport 100 % fitting in. No way it classifies as a bonding ritual. in my opinion, adjustment to ..

@notsmokeymcpot42088 love this thread, are poll s adjustable ? ;)
 
Yeh bet most superstars keep their pants on in shower room (underwear) and prob got their own individual shower cubicle
Walking there with a shrunken member obvious obsessed them/ or stressed internet ? . It s nothing more then what it is. But they are prohibiting that part of the sport branche. It s inappropriate and un-hygienic [att here] . It always was, no-brainer think it a shift in they way the world works.

Superstar s used to undress till butt naked, then you go Nipple gate with janet jackson and all wen down hill funnyv
 
Can you be older than 60, or do you have to be 60?

You can be however old you want I suppose I just chose 60 as a # you are likely starting to feel the effects of what you went hard doing in your teens/20s/30s even.

I gotta say I think sports have done more harm to my body. There is something to be said for team sports and I am glad I got that dynamic forsure. Exercise is good absolutely.

I dont think anything you ingest is "Boosting your health" really -- more of a preservative state at best

"What sport" Hockey mainly, but any 'contact sport' is how I should have prhased it perhaps - although plenty non contact sports wear on joints and stuff hard. Ballet for example, great posture but its gunna tear some shit up prolly.

Thanks for tagging me emkee -- I did not know this thread ever grew legs!
 
Walking there with a shrunken member obvious obsessed them/ or stressed internet ? . It s nothing more then what it is. But they are prohibiting that part of the sport branche. It s inappropriate and un-hygienic [att here] . It always was, no-brainer think it a shift in they way the world works.

Superstar s used to undress till butt naked, then you go Nipple gate with janet jackson and all wen down hill funnyv
Ironically the Olympics as held by the ancient Greeks were performed while the athletes were naked. It was symbolic that all were "human" and and essentially the same.

But the modern world does not concern itself with such trivialities. We have "progressed".

Ahem ... :unsure:
 
It depends on the person and if they could assimilate into the culture of the locker room. Hazing was rampant when I was playing football and a bunch of the guys became recluses due to it. If you weren't a bully you didn't fit in. You had to fight your own teammates sometimes because if you didn't they would try to stuff you into a trash can or mess with you in other ways.

The guy that was at the bottom of the totem pole on my football team got messed up for life. He tried to become a cop after we finished school but he only managed to stay on the force for a few years before he got caught up in a scandal. He was stalking women he'd pulled over because he had access to their information through the cop's database.

He was a really nice guy before football. He was never the same after he went through three years of being the team's punching bag. He was the guy that got bullied everyday by the starting players. People that were getting bullied would bully him to try to fit-in with the other people and take attention off themselves. I walked into the locker room and found him stuffed in a trash can more than once. They'd shit in his bag and do all kinds of terrible stuff to him.

I didn't like playing sports for our high school because of what I saw going on in the locker room. A lot of people joined the team in an attempt to fit-in better with the school's culture. They thought if they joined the team they'd start getting more positive attention from the girls. Most of the time it didn't work out.

From what I've seen with team sports usually you have a core group of 8-12 guys that are really close and get the experience everyone that joined the team was seeking. Everyone else is hazed and bullied hard because they're all trying to get them to quit. The coaches encourage it and join in. Maybe things are different now but back then that's how it was.

This is true also -- short story we had a little person on our team and someone decided it was "Good luck" to toss him in a trashcan before every game. Obviously this was a false pretense to get away with cruelty in an unsupervised setting and I did indeed have to go to the carpet -- quite literally over that --- and I did make it stop. (Well I fought long enough the coach came in with questions which I let them answer)

Yrs later I was dating said little persons cousin and I heard he was calling me a junky -- so I confronted him. "I know you aren't gunna hit me" -- Did that little son of a bitch really just...ehh fuck it aint assaulting someone who can't fight back. The dude definitely has a complex ...... and a lack of principle on some level IMO

HS sports -- interesting you mention it because I was playing hockey in HS but not for the HS team - didnt try out - wanted nothing to do with them. The coach stopped me in the hall and flat offered me a spot on the team "We have been watching you and you are "Redmen" material"" ------ " I fucking hate this school and everything it stands for, including the fucking indian head on the jersey! Why would you ever think I wanted to play for you guys" (Looked like dude had never been so offended in his life, thought I was gunna jump at the offer) As it did have some status, the little matching jackets (Turns out they had to pay for lmao) etc.
 
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If you were a professional you would be getting looked after with massages etc after game ,getting better medical care after injuries than the rest of population and your diet would be strict even 30 years ago .
Is the thread part time team sports and having to go to work next day and bust your ass
 
Yea not professional sports as that is a dream most will never accomplish

like as a rule would you rather have spent 20 yrs doing sports hard on your own dime and time -- shit was expensive too, especially travel costs which idk how they thought we could afford, -- Or drugs: RE: how your body is going to feel (which the brain is part of) lol

If you think you were pro level talented than you can pretend that I suppose? I was not but I was good
 
I suppose someone could have done both might even have helped them out after a game lol but prob wouldn't be very reliable at turning up for matches
Iv cast my vote anyway
 
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