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would you ever turn anyone onto drugs?

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I am wondering how you drug users feel about turning others onto drugs. Whether it be a family member, friend or even a stranger. A lot of us were turned onto drugs by someone in our life (or maybe you turned yourself onto them through your own curiousity) but I'm wondering if you have ever done the same.. Do you feel it is right or wrong to bring drugs into someones life? Or do you think they should do it on their own or go through someone else? How do you decide what to do or not to do when this situation arises? I want to hear your stories or even just your general opinions on this subject.

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I guess it really comes down to moral issues for me. I don't really think I could ever "turn" someone onto drugs. I mean if its weed I really don't have any problem but in my eyes that's really not a drug and not that big of a deal.... Yet, however recently a friend of mine who's never even used wanted me to get her heroin. She knows I do it occasionally and now wants me to get her bags.... I was like oh shit... What do I do? I always kept my drug use seperate from my personal life/non-drug using friends but some how I slipped up and let too much be known. Now I'm stuck with the dilemma of whether or not I should go through with this... Do I want to get her dope? Honestly no... I don't want to feel as if I am the reason her life was ruined. To be honest I doubt this idea would have ever crossed her mind if she hadn't known I was using dope. You may be thinking wow this is mad or whatever but this situation happens more than we think it does.

I'm wondering if anyone else feels the same way as I do?

I'm kind of thinking of a lot of discussions today and I guess I'm asking another question... I didn't really see a thread on this subject in DC but if there is then mods feel free to merge it.
 
I sometimes wished that I could share why I believed mushrooms to be a massively useful therapeutic tool with my ex, if only to show her that the 'Drugs are bad, kids. M'kay?' misinformation and sweeping generalisations ain't necessarily so, hoping even the one experience would change her understanding and bring us closer together seeing that my motivations were different to what she imagined, and maybe she'd get something profound and valuable out of the experience for herself but even so, even if I could have persuaded her I wouldn't have done it. She had too many things bubbling under the surface that she generally kept in check or pushed to the back of her mind so she could present the confident happy-face required of her in her job. Think the slippage of the mask confronted with those emotions in their rawest state would have been too much for her, and doubt she'd have come away with anything but negatives.

I'd never introduce anyone to opiates or crack. Watched one of my ex's turn from a happy, confident young woman with a decent job into a sly, manipulative, thieving addict despite everything I did to keep her and Heroin at arms length, being a junkie and a thief myself hoping she'd give me the reason for wanting to get off. The curiosity and danger appeal got the better of her and just having my associates around now and then was enough for her to get to know those she could make arrangements to score with on the quiet when she was meant to be travelling home from working late, or visiting her mum or whatever the most reasonable sounding excuse was. Eventually she'd been home a couple of days not going out at all and I could tell she was rattling. Academic at that point who was most responsible, me, her, or her so-called 'mates' that had helped her do that to herself cos now she was a junkie same as me. Co-dependency from there as partners in crime and addicts that eventually turned into outright contempt for eachother. Split 5 years on and off she went to be an addict moving in some of the shadiest circles going for years after. Bitterly regret that I didn't do everything in my power to come off right from the outset cos she was a lovely girl in the beginning and she'd never have been exposed to any of the connections once smack was out the picture for me. I wouldn't wish opiate addiction on my worst enemy but knowing I was responsible in part for her isn't an easy thing to live with even now, 15 years or more on.

The one thing I'd have little hesitation sharing with someone who'd never done it and wanted to try is Ecstacy, as it was back in the late 80s / very early 90s. Alas, the chances of finding such a thing these days seem too slim to allow for that particular possibility, though I'm led to believe decent stuff has started to reappear after far too long an absence. I miss my clubbing days but too bloody old to even think about trying to manage a long stupid dancing thing in a club surrounded by kids less than half my age without looking a complete dick. 8) ;)

The whole thing's a difficult moral dilemma. How can you possibly know whether someone's experience will turn out to be wholly positive with no negative consequences whatsoever, or whether it's just the first step onto a big slide down into a world of shit? Even if you think you know someone well enough to second-guess drugs of any kind have a habit of pulling the rug out from under even the best intentioned people. If they're insistent and do all the running and you chose to enable it hoping that you could at least watch out for them and make things positive as a least worst option then I guess all responsibility lies with them. Ultimately final responsibility always lies with them, cos the choice to take, or not take is theirs alone, but even so I'd not feel comfortable introducing someone to drugs of any kind really, the future consequences of that being unknowable.
 
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I would. Drugs have their benefits as well as their negatives. I would try my best to explain the negatives of a given drug properly to the person, as well as what I noted was the positive side. Then I would leave them the choice of trying/not trying/etc. After that, I say my hands are clean, its their own will to take them, not mine. All I can do is inform.
 
Ive never been an advocate of Heroin, Meth, or Cocaine/Crack (even though I know how enjoyable each of those substances are) because Ive been and/or seen the horrors behind it. If the person wanted to try any of them, I made sure they were aware of what they were getting into but I never got in their way because it is ultimately their life to live.

Psychedelics on the other hand are a different story. Ive suggested to a number of people (who I felt were ready) to try some LSD with me. Some agreed while others didnt want to, at which point I dropped the subject. 2 of the friends that agreed actually because my favorite trip buddies for over a year, joining me on excursions with more LSD, Mescaline, 2C-B, Ketamine, and PCP. Good times :)
 
I think it's hard not to. Them knowing about your use alone may be the reason why they decided to start, even if you're not who gives them the actual drug.
 
I would like to say that I wouldn't, but i already have a number of times in my life. It's a shitty thing to do, but at the same time, someone that wants to try hard drugs, will eventually try them, whether it is through you, or some homeless guy they meet in a park.

The best thing to do is to make sure that person can fully understand what it is that makes theses drugs become so consuming. There is a possibility then, that they might decide against it.
 
Recently got a friend to do some cocaine with me (2 lines) :S Then he wanted to do it again the following weekend lol, uhoh.
 
I've definitely gotten people into smoking weed but the majority of them will smoke it maybe every few months if offered but don't show any particular interest. There is one kid who experiments a bit but he is fairly cautious and I teach him all that I know. Lol he looks up to me as a sort of mentor because I taught him a lot of smoking etiquette, though he was polite to begin with. He is just enjoying while he can because he goes to basic next summer. He is also in excellent shape and puts a lot of time in to school so I don't feel like I directed him down the wrong path.
 
I advocate cannabis use to everybody, alcohol use to basically everybody, stimulant use to nearly everybody, opiate use to almost everybody, and general drug use to pretty much anybody that approaches me about it - provided they do their research and aren't a total idiot about it... oh yeah - and I advocate (turn on) psychedelic use to the right people.

Short answer? Hell fucking yes.
 
NeighborhoodThreat said:
I advocate cannabis use to everybody, alcohol use to basically everybody, stimulant use to nearly everybody, opiate use to almost everybody, and general drug use to pretty much anybody that approaches me about it - provided they do their research and aren't a total idiot about it... oh yeah - and I advocate (turn on) psychedelic use to the right people.

Short answer? Hell fucking yes.
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I think there is a difference with advocating a drug and actually giving a drug to a close friend. I mean with a stranger I probably wouldn't care but sometimes I think its better to keep drugs separate from your drug using friends and your sober friends. Well hard drugs at least.. Like I said I wouldn't mind smoking weed with someone or giving them psychedelics but to give your close friend heroin... Uh I'm not sure if I'm cool with that. Its like saying here you go and now I'm going to watch your life go downhill... Watch you turn into a different person and maybe even ruin a great friendship. I mean that may or may not happen and people say if they want to do it they will go and do it no matter what. Well, I rather them go get their heroin, meth or crack through someone else than me. Maybe its my morals I guess but I just don't want to feel like the person that fucked up their life... The sad thing is I'm actually going to get my friend heroin anyways probably... Only after I explain everything bluelight would say because at this point I know she will go through someone else and I guess I will have to go against everything I just said.... I will then feel like I ruined her life :\ ah.
 
I would never turn on someone to opiates or benzos (and other things).

But weed, LSD, mushrooms...those I will turn people on to. The LSD and Shrooms highly depend on the person, what research they have done on them, and if I feel they're "ready" for that first trip. I usually "trip sit" for them taking a very low dose for myself so I can be on their level while always begin sober enough that I can talk them down if their trip is turning bad. So far I've never had anyone have a really bad trip when I've turned them on though. Had to talk down a couple of people, but we managed to turn their bad trip into a good trip and after the effects wore off most of them told me that the "bad" parts of the trip were things they needed to see.

But, I don't turn on everyone that asks of course. I know a few of them can't handle it, and a few of them think LSD/Shrooms will just "fuck them up" and don't really understand what a trip is. These people I try to educate, but if its obvious they aren't getting it I just tell 'em I can't find shit even if I have a personal stash in my lock box which I save for going to private parties back in the woods were everyone is rolling their ass off or tripping balls.

I haven't tripped balls in about 3 years. I actually think a good mushroom trip would do me some good at the moment. But I'm waiting til I can start making my own supply and have sorted out some things currently going on in my own life at this time.
 
Turned a few people onto opiates, the girlfriend, an ex girlfriend and a close friend, my best friend, actually.

It's hard to be living with someone and be blowing down lines all the time without their wanting to give it a whirl. I'm not proud of it, but they all seem to be ok, not that it makes it any better, but no one has caught a habit.

I mean the ex doesn't call me looking to score, and my best friend lives too far away and so they're all ok despite our indulging for a little while in pills and whatever else.

But now, I'm not bringing anyone else into this thing. If you haven't already gone out and copped it for yourself, then I'm not going to get it for you, and I'm not going to introduce any more friends or acquaintances even to addictive, potentially life-changing substances.
 
While I can't really say that I wouldn't hook someone up with a bag under some kind of bizzare special circumstance, I do know that I will never again put a needle in someones arm. I've seen the damage done.
 
verso said:
If you haven't already gone out and copped it for yourself, then I'm not going to get it for you, and I'm not going to introduce any more friends or acquaintances even to addictive, potentially life-changing substances.
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Znegative said:
I do know that I will never again put a needle in someones arm. I've seen the damage done.
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Both of these are good calls and I agree with them 100%
 
I would never allow someoen to try opiates for the 1st time in my presence after seei

I would never allow someoen to try opiates for the 1st time in my presence after seeing the carnage they cause,. MUCHLESS shoot up..fuck no. I'll knock you out before I let you.
 
Ecstasy- I do promote its use, as I promote PLUR. I think there are benefits to rolling. I see introducing MDMA to someone as promoting raver PLUR. (peace, love, unity, respect)

Weed- I don't care if I introduce someone to it.

Psychedelics- It really depends on the person, if they were mentally unstable/depressed I don't promote it.

Hard drugs: Meth, I would not introduce it to anyone.
Crack: I'd personally feel very bad if I did, so no.
Opiates: they are addictive, and I don't suggest it to anyone. There was one friend who was into opiates and wanted me to shoot her up with heroin. Well after I did it, she turned around and told me "can I have your dealers number? I wanna do this again" Well I have kicked the habit, but that person has gotten into a really bad IV heroin habit, and to this very day I feel responsible for it, and its not promoting PLUR at all.

-PLUR
 
I got my bestfriend smoking weed again a few years ago, he hasnt stopped lol

Id suggest psychedelics to some people, start em off on a low dose.

If someone wants to try something harder i would suggest they stay away.
 
I turned my best friend into drugs. I gave him his first joint. I made him get me coke which lead to him trying it. I gave him amphetamines the first time he tried them. Am I sorry? Yes. Did we have an awesome time? Yes. Did our friendship got screwed? A little, yes, but we're still good friends. Not as good as we were though...
 
Pretty much agree with the above posters

Weed: id go out of my way to introduce it to someone

Psychs: if it was someone I trusted and could stand chilling with for ten hours

Anything else I would feel weird
 
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