Opioids Would be grateful for advice for an at home detox using benzos and subs

[babbler.dabbler]

Hi, first time posting so apologies in advance if I'm in the wrong forum.

I really will try to sum up my situation as best as I can. 44 started opioids and everything else in my late teens. Quit with methadone 22 years ago when I found out I was pregnant.. stayed clean up until 7 years ago when I was hospitalized for 3 months for non alcoholic related pancreatitis and was given mass amounts of Dilaudid. As soon as I was discharged from hospital it felt like I took a months worth of pain meds in days and went straight to fentanyl. Not injecting but still have one hell of a habit. Have resorted to working with an escort agency to cover the cost and started smoking meth which strangely, doesn't seem to give me the euphoria that it does others (diagnosed ADHD in grade school).. I use the meth like I would use Adderall.. and i can go months without it, just makes me a bit sleepy for a day or two. Well I'm sure it's not a big surprise that I was arrested (not drug related) and absconded/never showed up for probation. Never had an arrest prior and my lawyer said I can probably avoid prison if I turn myself in.. I'm ashamed beyond belief but I just can't bare cold turkey in jail.. it's the mental that gets me the most. I have access to 10 2mg subs (and can get more) and hoping my benzo friend is still around. Can anyone out there give me any advice, like a taper schedule. I experienced pwd once before now I'm terrified of the subs.. luckily benzos really kick my ass... I'm a nervous wreck but I just want my life back, and I'm hoping everyone else on here wanting the same has success in kicking this nightmare for good. Thank you for reading this

 

[CaptnRon]

Hi, first time posting so apologies in advance if I'm in the wrong forum.

I really will try to sum up my situation as best as I can. 44 started opioids and everything else in my late teens. Quit with methadone 22 years ago when I found out I was pregnant.. stayed clean up until 7 years ago when I was hospitalized for 3 months for non alcoholic related pancreatitis and was given mass amounts of Dilaudid. As soon as I was discharged from hospital it felt like I took a months worth of pain meds in days and went straight to fentanyl. Not injecting but still have one hell of a habit. Have resorted to working with an escort agency to cover the cost and started smoking meth which strangely, doesn't seem to give me the euphoria that it does others (diagnosed ADHD in grade school).. I use the meth like I would use Adderall.. and i can go months without it, just makes me a bit sleepy for a day or two. Well I'm sure it's not a big surprise that I was arrested (not drug related) and absconded/never showed up for probation. Never had an arrest prior and my lawyer said I can probably avoid prison if I turn myself in.. I'm ashamed beyond belief but I just can't bare cold turkey in jail.. it's the mental that gets me the most. I have access to 10 2mg subs (and can get more) and hoping my benzo friend is still around. Can anyone out there give me any advice, like a taper schedule. I experienced pwd once before now I'm terrified of the subs.. luckily benzos really kick my ass... I'm a nervous wreck but I just want my life back, and I'm hoping everyone else on here wanting the same has success in kicking this nightmare for good. Thank you for reading this

How much fent are you using? I just got clean off the shit a few months ago after using on and off (mostly on) for the past 17 years.

You’re not gonna be happy to hear this, but with fent, on average, it’s in your system for about 7 days. That means depending on how fast your metabolism works, you’ll likely have to wait 150-168 hours to safely induct on suboxone.

I would wait 96-100 hours, take 2mg and be thrown in to precipitated withdrawal immediately. I’m in my late 30s, relatively healthy and in good shape just to give you an idea how this went for me.

I gave up on the subs and cold turkey’d with just a bit of cannabis for relief. It was pretty fucking shitty, but I wanted out so bad I just didn’t care. I felt I deserved the pain. Plus there is no way of getting out of this life without paying for the past drug use, that is if you truly don’t wanna be dragging around a ball and chain.

The benzos should help. But if you can’t cold turkey, you may wanna consider a quick taper methadone regiment.

I hope you find the info you’re looking for and a way out of this awful life.

Always, fair winds and following seas

 

[Señor Moreno]

Yes, quick taper of methadone would be a good option. Can you get Lyrica/ pregabalin? That med works wonders for opi cesation and, with the benzos you expect to get (read or ask about pregab/benzo combo dosages, don't go wild), it should take care of your anxiety and provide you with, at least, some hours of sleep.
All the above works with classic opis, I don't know about fentanyl, to be honest.
Good luck

 

[2Toes209]

Just to add to this, I’ve also got off a 3 year fent habit CT. I was never a benzo guy or really much else of anything while using fent but before fent I’ve always loved opioids, but never got to the pint if no return so to speak just enough to always have like a day or two fog brain for withdrawals. Anyways this last time trying to quit, I wanted it so bad but the anxiety was CRAZY for me, on day 4 I almost caved. Keep in mind I had to do it quietly, nobody to talk to IRL or relate too and had to act normal around family ect. I read about pregabalin and gabapent online. Lucky I had a lot of it from a past surgury years ago and never really messed with it or knew what it really did. Wish I’d of tried it my first CT attempt. Anyways I took 300mg of it, i was on day 4 and about 4 hours later I couldn’t believe the relief I’d got. I was still sick don’t get me wrong but the anxiety for one and the pacing feeling subsided, I remember crying I was so happy it was working lol. Was going to take subs on day 7. Still couldn’t sleep but by day 7 I was like screw it I want to be free and use pregabalin during the crazy peaks of wd. Before fent I was actually addicted to Kratom just like any opioid addiction for 2 years, bout 60-100g a day of powder, yes the wd isn’t as bad compared to fent but i look at it just like any opioids. Use it as a tool, cause it’ll get ya. I used it again for fent wd my 2nd attempt but stopped it after 5 days. I stopped the pregabalin after the first 9 days of my last detox to avoid gettin addicted. I see gabapent, kratom, pregabalin as tools to get clean but not like a sub where you can switch forever. I personally wanted to be clean from
Everything and I don’t diss anyone using kratom or the mat programs. I just couldn’t do it. I also know if I ever tried methadon I’d abuse it, nothing in moderation for me. I got clean at home never saw a doc or rehab, but it was the hardest thing I’ve done. Good luck tho