whitegreen
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My garden gnome has some 20mg prolonged release Oxycodone which he consider how much to take for a nice high with lots of "dozing off" and just lying in the bed feeling really good. Last time he took Oxy he dared to take 20mg instant release at once but was really disappointed, he was doing garden stuff and taking out stuff to the garage and stuff like that. He were still feeling very well of course but no dozing off even when he sat down for a break from the chores. A few days before he had taken 1000mg of Tramadol over the duration of like two or three days which might have affected the Oxy even after a few days break from everything before he took the Oxy.
This time is similar, he took 700mg Tramadol last friday night (and it's now monday night) and yesterday he took 200mg Tramadol. And not sure about the Subutex from last weekend, but Subutex has a long biological half-life so who knows.
He has 10 years experience of opioid and opiate use, he has never become addicted to any of it and his longest binge was a 1½ week of Tramadol dosaged at around 300-500mg each day.
Anyhow, since he now has a few 20mg prolonged release Oxycodone hidden away from the local junkie-squirrel who doesn't like him and a couple of other gnomes in his tiny little mushroom cabin just outside my garden he figured he would like to take two of them, totaling at 40mg. But he would then crush them up in the mouth and swallow, just to avoid the prolonged (or is it controlled?) effects.
I don't think it matters (that much) when it comes to opioid but he wanted me to ask anyway. He weighs around 220 lbs/100 kg and measures around 6'1" in garden gnome height if that would to matter. He is a very compact little garden gnome indeed.
So what do you humans say? All I want for my little garden gnome is to enjoy a nice little Oxy high without being disappointed or in the red zone for taking too much. Like I said, last time 20mg was by far too little. And the only other times he has consumed Oxy was when he had some 80mg controlled release which he split in four parts and then one fourth in half and started from there going upwards over a couple of days, these were also crushed to get the instant release effect. The thing is, this is a long time ago (since Oxy isn't that easy to come by where he lives and when you do come by it it is way too expensive to even consider getting some) so his memory is very foggy how much took as a single dose back then in the end.
I told him to research some on the internet (which he steals from my WiFi, darn little gnomes) but the answers he got only made him more confused. Some said 40mg single dose was a lethal dose, others said it would be fine and other said it should probably be okay but recommended 30mg instead. But seeing as how few of these he have he wants to make the best of it and not having a repeat of last time (20mg = disappointed).
And we have both read your own Bluelight Opioid Conversion Chart which states 20mg of Oxycodone being roughly 150mg of Tramadol which my gnome friend knows best of all the listed opioids and he has been known to dabble around in rather high doses (of course being aware the the horrible things Tramadol can do to you).
So going after your conversion chart 40mg would equal roughly 300mg of Tramadol. 300mg of Tramadol will only give the gnome a little buzz with plenty of energy. He knows Oxy is different from Tramadol, in many ways so getting some energy is ruled out.
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So what would you recommend my friend the garden gnome to do?
Is 40mg a lethal dose as specified on some webpages or will it give him the perfect high where he just lays in bed, dozing off and maybe having some amazing pipe dreams? Or based on the conversion chart maybe he has to take more, ~5-10mg?
Or carefully potentiate it with a small amount of benzo instead? Even though he's an old benzo-addict and would rather not use it he keeps some at home for emergency cases. Not that this is a case of emergency though!
And I would also like to point out that when it comes to drugs for recreational use he always play it safe even if it results on a half assed trip.
Sincerely,
My friend, the garden gnome
Press here for TL;DR version!
My garden gnome has some 20mg prolonged release Oxycodone which he consider how much to take for a nice high with lots of "dozing off" and just lying in the bed feeling really good. Last time he took Oxy he dared to take 20mg instant release at once but was really disappointed, he was doing garden stuff and taking out stuff to the garage and stuff like that. He were still feeling very well of course but no dozing off even when he sat down for a break from the chores. A few days before he had taken 1000mg of Tramadol over the duration of like two or three days which might have affected the Oxy even after a few days break from everything before he took the Oxy.
This time is similar, he took 700mg Tramadol last friday night (and it's now monday night) and yesterday he took 200mg Tramadol. And not sure about the Subutex from last weekend, but Subutex has a long biological half-life so who knows.
He has 10 years experience of opioid and opiate use, he has never become addicted to any of it and his longest binge was a 1½ week of Tramadol dosaged at around 300-500mg each day.
Anyhow, since he now has a few 20mg prolonged release Oxycodone hidden away from the local junkie-squirrel who doesn't like him and a couple of other gnomes in his tiny little mushroom cabin just outside my garden he figured he would like to take two of them, totaling at 40mg. But he would then crush them up in the mouth and swallow, just to avoid the prolonged (or is it controlled?) effects.
I don't think it matters (that much) when it comes to opioid but he wanted me to ask anyway. He weighs around 220 lbs/100 kg and measures around 6'1" in garden gnome height if that would to matter. He is a very compact little garden gnome indeed.
So what do you humans say? All I want for my little garden gnome is to enjoy a nice little Oxy high without being disappointed or in the red zone for taking too much. Like I said, last time 20mg was by far too little. And the only other times he has consumed Oxy was when he had some 80mg controlled release which he split in four parts and then one fourth in half and started from there going upwards over a couple of days, these were also crushed to get the instant release effect. The thing is, this is a long time ago (since Oxy isn't that easy to come by where he lives and when you do come by it it is way too expensive to even consider getting some) so his memory is very foggy how much took as a single dose back then in the end.
I told him to research some on the internet (which he steals from my WiFi, darn little gnomes) but the answers he got only made him more confused. Some said 40mg single dose was a lethal dose, others said it would be fine and other said it should probably be okay but recommended 30mg instead. But seeing as how few of these he have he wants to make the best of it and not having a repeat of last time (20mg = disappointed).
And we have both read your own Bluelight Opioid Conversion Chart which states 20mg of Oxycodone being roughly 150mg of Tramadol which my gnome friend knows best of all the listed opioids and he has been known to dabble around in rather high doses (of course being aware the the horrible things Tramadol can do to you).
So going after your conversion chart 40mg would equal roughly 300mg of Tramadol. 300mg of Tramadol will only give the gnome a little buzz with plenty of energy. He knows Oxy is different from Tramadol, in many ways so getting some energy is ruled out.
TL;DR
- Garden gnome with PLENTY of opiate and opioid experience over the last 10 years, basically everything except heroin and methadone but including pure raw opium and all medicinal stuff but no RC opioids or fentanyls.
- He recently came over just a few 20mg prolonged/controlled released tabs which we can consider as normal instant release ones since he will just grind them up in the mouth before swallowing or just crush and parachute them.
- Many months ago he took 20mg and gave him a very disappointing high with no dozing off, instead he was doing chores and "just feeling good". The days before he had taken 1000mg of Tramadol during two or three days and then a few days off it before taking the Oxy.
- This time is of a similar situation, 700mg Tramadol last thursday (now it's monday) and 200mg yesterday.
- Not being sure whether how big someone is affect opiates as much as other substances sometimes do he thought it worth letting me mention that he is a big gnome for being a small one, he weighs around 220 lbs and measures about 6'1" in garden gnome height. Don't even ask, these gnomes have a whole system similar to metric vs. imperial.
- According to the Bluelight Opioid Conversion Chart 40mg Oxycodone would equal roughly 300mg Tramadol which doesn't do much for my gnome, even with zero tolerance.
So what would you recommend my friend the garden gnome to do?
Is 40mg a lethal dose as specified on some webpages or will it give him the perfect high where he just lays in bed, dozing off and maybe having some amazing pipe dreams? Or based on the conversion chart maybe he has to take more, ~5-10mg?
Or carefully potentiate it with a small amount of benzo instead? Even though he's an old benzo-addict and would rather not use it he keeps some at home for emergency cases. Not that this is a case of emergency though!
And I would also like to point out that when it comes to drugs for recreational use he always play it safe even if it results on a half assed trip.
Sincerely,
My friend, the garden gnome
Take care!
