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My friends and I thought it would be just hilarious if I snorted one of her Prozac. Felt great for about five minutes before I got hit with hyper-aggression and about 20 minutes later I was in the corner of the closet scared, grief-stricken, petrified. And that lasted into the next night.
 
Nutmeg (myristicin) for sure. Didn't even take too much (I think about 10-12g of ground nutmeg). Just enough to experience the effects as I was curious about deliriants. Spent about a day feeling stoned as hell (even had people asking me the day after the worst of it if I'd smoked any weed I was that stoned :LOL:). For the worst of it I had crazy paranoia just from the drug, was hallucinating loads of weird shadow spiders walking around my house and dangling from silk strings from the ceiling and my vision was shattered as if I was looking through broken glass.

I wouldn't say it was so scary I couldn't handle it and lost my mind but suffice to say that was the end of my experimentation with that class of drugs :alien:
 
I've tasted most things.

Methamphetamine and cocaine are just AWFUL and I feel corrosive to the mental health of users.They made me cynical and I do not enjoy that emotion.

But 3-MeO PCE is up there for the same reasons.

Oh, and 5-MeO DMT - I felt like an elephant had sat on me.

Over longer periods opioids require a great deal of respect. They can be useful servants but make terrible masters. Of them fentanyl or just the more potent ones in general. If it's more than x10 morphine, I strongly advise people just not to try. You never know who will be the one who instantly loves them and the outcomes are almost uniformly bad. In fact I'm the only person who has had access to lots of fentanyl and decided that no, I don't want to die just yet. Even less potent opioids demand respect and self-control. I suffer severe chronic pain and need oxycodone just to walk a few steps. But I would still rather not be taking it.

I see benzos destorying lives and once again, I'm prescribed clobazam for epilepsy. But I take it when I need it. Otherwise it sits in my drawer.

Alcohol goes without saying - that stuff will ruin your life every bit as well as cocaine or heroin.
 
Well as @4DQSAR 3 days is not uncommon. Me being a newb and not doing research but anyhow i took a very heavy dose with me ending up of 3 days of disconnection from reality with a lot of hallucinations and trips in between. I spend 8 hrs of the day talking to dead friends and them explaining whats awaiting me and the very end they erupted the grounded and descenend stairs in to hell it self as I can only prescribe it and the heat and and smell and scream were next level. Something stuck in my brain today...
Hope that explains a bit @Vanilla_Incense

Yeah i dont know. There is a reason its called angel/devil trumpets.
 
Coffeeshroom said:
Well as @4DQSAR 3 days is not uncommon. Me being a newb and not doing research but anyhow i took a very heavy dose with me ending up of 3 days of disconnection from reality with a lot of hallucinations and trips in between. I spend 8 hrs of the day talking to dead friends and them explaining whats awaiting me and the very end they erupted the grounded and descenend stairs in to hell it self as I can only prescribe it and the heat and and smell and scream were next level. Something stuck in my brain today...
Hope that explains a bit @Vanilla_Incense

Yeah i dont know. There is a reason its called angel/devil trumpets.
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Did you know that in various nations prisoners have access to medication to treat IBS? It's just scopolomine butyl bromide (that formal charge means it can't cross the BBB). But apparently if you smoke it, that butyl bromide moiety is driven off and voila - you go on your very own 'Scooby Doo and the Pirate Island Adventure' for a couple of days.

I mean, butyl bromide is an alkylating agent so not safe. But I suppose if someone is reduced to counting the bricks in the wall, it' something to do.

I've also been told that in some US states people who end up incarcerated are provided with 'comfort meds' that includes loperamide. So apparently some 'new fish' will swap the stuff they have for ALL the loperamide to stave off withdrawal. Loperamide is particularly nasty as it demonstrates a 2-phase dose-response curve. Up to about 200mg the brain's active transport systems will pump it out of the brain but when overwhelmed, loperamide starts to concentrate in lopophilic parts of the body (brain, fat tissue and so on). It's killed a fair few people. I knew a couple.
 
I also have had a litght dose Datura stramonium as well, i think it was a light dose but this was like when i was 14, more then 2 decades ago. Cant remember jack from that weekend but a lot of other stuff was taken, reckless i know.
 
It's believed that the Romans and then the Vikings introduced henbane to the UK.

I know it was quite widely used for it's analgesic activity for thousands of years. The Romans also used 'poppy juice'. I've never been quite clear if that meant opium latex dissolved in alcohol or water or indeed it was dissolved in something else or even if it was the whole plant pulped up. I DO know that the Greeks and Romans were aware that opium produced tolerance and dependence but it's amazing that for two millenia at least various forms of opium were sold quite legally and I find little evidence that it caused a significant problem.

I'm of the opinion that when morphine was isolated and the syringe was developed at around the same time, THEN it became a bigger issue.

Even then, the first UK law controlling both morphine and cocaine was in the 1917 DotR (Defence of the Realm) act when it was noted that high-end department stores such as Harrods was selling little tins which had a small container of morphine, a small container of cocaine and a set of works. Faced with the bloodbath that was WW1 it doesn't surprise me that soldiers might feel the need of something to help with pain and reduce fatigue.
 
MDPV felt toxic every damn time -- but now its worth a fortune so what do I know.

why I came to post -- Shit some vendor is sellling an opioid known as "new proton" with very very little information --- who on earth would order such a thing. That and "Grey death" which was quote "A hodgepodge of fent and other synthetic opioids". This one is appearing bright, almost neon purple with nothing coming back. Shite is crazy lol

Also have a "Canna" product known ad 4B-Rad (I think here is what google comes back with) 4B-RAD, likely referring to a type of cannabinoid, is not a recognized term in the field of cannabis research. The term "4B-rad" doesn't align with known cannabinoid naming conventions or structures. Common cannabinoids include THC (delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol), CBD (cannabidiol), and CBN (cannabinol). It's possible "4B-rad" is a misspelling, a typo, or a term specific to a particular brand or source of information that is not widely used or recognized.

And this is a "vouched for" vendor. Think things have changed a bit since I dipped my toes in
 
notsmokeymcpot42088 said:
MDPV felt toxic every damn time -- but now its worth a fortune so what do I know.
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Yep - that was an ABSOLUTE CLASSIC example of someone reading a patent and deciding that the most potent compound was OBVIOUSLY the best.

Plain pyrovalerone has that neat little para methyl on the aromatic (benzene) ring. That means the body has a nice easy job of oxifizing that methyl to metabolize the medicine. Apparently like MDMA, that MD bridge is broken in MDPV metabolism and I think we know related metabolites are suspected to be neurotoxins.

Hence pyrophenidone NOT having an MD bridge but the familiar para methyl. Someone did read the papers and consider the metabolism in that case. Was it the MOST potent of the series? No. Was it the best? Yep.
 
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paranoid android said:
Dramamine. Fuck that shit right off. Saw spiders and horrible shit for hours
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I guess we might say anticholinergics are delerients and wonder at why people would actively seek such states. They combine all the great different classes of toxicity. Heart attack, stroke, seizure and schizophrenia - all this and more from just one chemical.
 
Lol, I was just about to post up and be like "Salvia" but I honestly can't agree now that I think about it. For me, Phenibut is the worst drug I've ever taken, because it tried so hard to grab hold of me with its insanely addictive potential, and I was getting there...

But then I started taking kava, and I was like damn! This feels similar in ways but not super intense. I think that's what helped me stop taking Phenibut but I don't really know. I have really bad tinnitus and noticed that it got much worse from Pheni. Also, when I take any drug, I can always "taste it" in my head. Like, it's hard to explain.

I can taste the chemicals and all that, even in something as simple as Tylenol or Motrin. Pheni just had this citric, dirty diaper taste to it... I've never found anyone who describes this like I do. It could be due to synesthesia making my senses react differently to actually notice, because really I have no clue. I've never met another person who can relate on this, and this is precisely why I even quit drinking. I taste alcohol into the next day.

Seriously, do NOT fuck with Phenibut. Don't. Yes it has quite a wild fucking high but damn, it's so dangerous and addicting, and from what I've heard has quite possibly the worst drug withdrawals known to man, especially with the people who were taking really high doses daily.
 
BourbonMac said:
Lol, I was just about to post up and be like "Salvia" but I honestly can't agree now that I think about it. For me, Phenibut is the worst drug I've ever taken, because it tried so hard to grab hold of me with its insanely addictive potential, and I was getting there...

But then I started taking kava, and I was like damn! This feels similar in ways but not super intense. I think that's what helped me stop taking Phenibut but I don't really know. I have really bad tinnitus and noticed that it got much worse from Pheni. Also, when I take any drug, I can always "taste it" in my head. Like, it's hard to explain.

I can taste the chemicals and all that, even in something as simple as Tylenol or Motrin. Pheni just had this citric, dirty diaper taste to it... I've never found anyone who describes this like I do. It could be due to synesthesia making my senses react differently to actually notice, because really I have no clue. I've never met another person who can relate on this, and this is precisely why I even quit drinking. I taste alcohol into the next day.

Seriously, do NOT fuck with Phenibut. Don't. Yes it has quite a wild fucking high but damn, it's so dangerous and addicting, and from what I've heard has quite possibly the worst drug withdrawals known to man, especially with the people who were taking really high doses daily.
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I could always taste hydrocodone coming up on it. and of course certain things IV'd. "non benzos" Z-drugs leave a metallic taste in my mouth. Never tried phenibut prolly wont reading that; sleep aid right? Salvia is pretty bad but the duration is its saving grace--

Edit * oh shit I almost understood that last post about mdpv I think I got it at least -- progress if so 60/40 lol. MDPV toxic for similar reasons as MDMA did I get that at least? (Or is it not toxic for similar reasons? the 40).
 
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Sleep aid... nah. Phenibut is an anti-depressant in Russia. It can knock you out, sure, because it's like GHB, but you'd need a lot.
A friend of mines little sis got drugged like this. Dude put who knows how many grams of Phenibut powder into a drink. Mind you, this stuff tastes really acidic, so it may have been one of the forms that are crystals that he could've grinded down, I don't really know... (I know of a crystal version and capsules, I had capsules)

Anyhow, she ended up in the hospital and nearly died, all because some dumbass tried to use Pheni as a daterape drug. MDMA stomps the shit out of Phenibut even if it feels a lot like it sometimes. Yeah, don't even try it.
 
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