Opioids working out/lifting weights on opiates

[Captain.Heroin]

Damn, I should have read the post earlier that mentioned that. I usually assume the term "opiates" speaks for all opiates, even though bupe is partial agonist. Good point though.

And Captain, I don't think opiates effect you working out because it is bupe and you don't do that much, but I wouldn't suggest the same for people doing the popular opiates (Morphine, Heroin, Hydros) as those do lower test (according to research).

That is true. You can do specific exercises to help increase testosterone levels and HGH levels, specifically leg exercises.

 

[arthunter888]

^I didn't know they lowered testosterone levels. Would say a 20mg oxycodone dose twice a week lower them to a significant extent? I never workout the same day as opiates, so does this apply still?

I'm guessing those leg exercises should be done at the beginning of the workout, huh, and what are the exercises?

 

[Harley3311]

I would always snort oxy every day before highschool, but when it came time to lift weights during weightlifting class the only lifting i would do was my chin off my chest! Personally when Im high on opiates I try to do as little physical activity as possible because thats when I get the best buzz. When I get up and move around it goes away. My favorite past time is snorting 80mg OC, smoking a 25 mcg fent gel patch, and watching adult swim while cuddling with my cat, ahhh America.

 

[Pegasus]

^I didn't know they lowered testosterone levels. Would say a 20mg oxycodone dose twice a week lower them to a significant extent? I never workout the same day as opiates, so does this apply still?

I'm guessing those leg exercises should be done at the beginning of the workout, huh, and what are the exercises?

There may be a small effect, but not a considerable one. Consistent dosing is what would cause the most issue with the lowered levels. Also, I think that oxycodone has less of this effect than morphine, but I don't exactly remember to what degree.

 

[shruuuuuuuuzzz]

so is it safe to take oxycodone or maybe even heroin after a workout session?

will it decrease the gains or anything?
or be the same?

 

[mushroompizza]

It's definitely possible, I (very stupidly) used to go to Brazilian Jiu Jitsu while high on poppy pod tea. Obviously my pain threshold was higher and I felt more flexible. I didn't really feel any negative effects on my performance. This is obviously stupid and I would advise against playing contact sports while high on opiates!

 

[Bojangles69]

Yes it is possible lol.
I'm a freaking muscle head and I've been on poppies for nearly 5 years.

I'm short but in very good shape. The only real difference was my first 2 years of using it was easier to maintain a low lean bf%. Now I can't seem to get it under 10% anymore (still fairly lean).

And I also know my shit when it comes to cycling and dieting so that helps too.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

leg work outs - the ones I could remember the name of have pictures

^I didn't know they lowered testosterone levels. Would say a 20mg oxycodone dose twice a week lower them to a significant extent? I never workout the same day as opiates, so does this apply still?

I'm guessing those leg exercises should be done at the beginning of the workout, huh, and what are the exercises?

I'm not sure if it applies to once in a while dosing, or to chronic users. It may be a dose related thing, it might be a frequency related thing, or even may have to do with if it's derived from morphine or thebaine. Oxycodone is derived from thebaine.

Overall I am not 100% sure to be honest. I wouldn't be as worried taking an opiate 2x a week as someone else using heroin every 4th hour.

The leg work outs: leg extensions

lying leg curls

leg curls

leg presses

vertical leg presses

There's two other ones that I don't remember the name of, but I can describing them. You're sitting down, and youre legs are spread apart. There are pads on the insides of your thighs that you squeeze together, and this works the inner thigh and the glutes.

The other one, same concept, except it is the reverse. Your legs are together, and there's pads on the outsides of your thighs you press outwards. I forget what muscles this works out specifically. It just slips my mind at the moment.

BTW some people would advise you do legs one day, and your upper body the next. You could do legs before the upper body, or vice versa, depending on if you're going back to the gym later I guess.

 

[Bojangles69]

It could be true that opiates lower testosterone but its a very common practice for fighters/wrestlers/bodybuilders too use/abuse painkillers and opiates.

So theres A LOT of evidence to support that you can use opiates and be in excellent shape. I'm somewhat proof myself. The one thing however is a lot of fighters/wrestlers/bbs also cycle, and cycling obviously helps promote muscle mass and lean body growth.
But steroids are farrrr from any miracle pill, diet is 70% of staying in shape and your routine is 30% max.
I see time and time again guys who are in excellent shape, do weights a max of 45 mins a day (if you're going over 45mins a day because you can't gain muscle then your diet is wrong, not your routine) these guys haven't done cardio in 3 months, but are shredded and have a ton of muscle.

Most important thing is always diet. 6 meals a day, oats/protein in the morning, never carbs after 3-4pm cause your body does NOT need them and will store them as fat. Always do cardio on an empty stomach. Always take a simple sugar with a fast acting protein right after working out, and always have a high protein meal within 1-2 hours after as well. Both the shake and meal are very important.
Make sure you are having fats at the proper time and carbs as well. If you are bloated or holding water drop the sodium. For anyone interested theres plenty of forums you can work out your macros/micros so you know you're getting what you need at the right times of the day.

But no single factor is more important then diet imo. You can stay on cycle for 5 years and not gain a 1 lb of muscle if your diet isn't on point. And great post captain good stuff there!

 

[Captain.Heroin]

It could be true that opiates lower testosterone but its a very common practice for fighters/wrestlers/bodybuilders too use/abuse painkillers and opiates.

So theres A LOT of evidence to support that you can use opiates and be in excellent shape. I'm somewhat proof myself. The one thing however is a lot of fighters/wrestlers/bbs also cycle, and cycling obviously helps promote muscle mass and lean body growth.
But steroids are farrrr from any miracle pill, diet is 70% of staying in shape and your routine is 30% max.

I would say it's 50/50 IMO. You can do plenty of muscular exercises, but if you continue to support a higher BF%age, your muscles won't show as well. Kind of like if you don't do upper body muscular exercises as well, your veins won't protrude as well.

Diet is a big part of it, but I would also say that your routine is important.

I would think that steroids completely override what opiate influence there might be to be honest. This is how many people who are fighters/wrestlers/BBers do use opiates.

Most important thing is always diet. 6 meals a day, oats/protein in the morning, never carbs after 3-4pm cause your body does NOT need them and will store them as fat. Always do cardio on an empty stomach. Always take a simple sugar with a fast acting protein right after working out, and always have a high protein meal within 1-2 hours after as well. Both the shake and meal are very important.
Make sure you are having fats at the proper time and carbs as well. If you are bloated or holding water drop the sodium. For anyone interested theres plenty of forums you can work out your macros/micros so you know you're getting what you need at the right times of the day.

Yeah, I definitely try to avoid serious carbs in the PM hours.

But no single factor is more important then diet imo. You can stay on cycle for 5 years and not gain a 1 lb of muscle if your diet isn't on point. And great post captain good stuff there!

Exactly you need to eat a solid amount of the right kinds of foods to support muscle gains properly. Well said.

 

[cicc9]

I find that roxies help with weightlifting gains significantly. The key is to not over exert yourself ie., if you normally do 10 military presses per set with a certain weight, don't go over 13 while high -even though you feel as if you can. Just be happy with the 30% increase you are already getting. If you start cranking out more than 30% of your normal reps, you will screw yourself up. Keep in mind that opiates suppress your respiration also. It is safer to just stay at or near your normal routine, and maybe just add a few more sets. I've also noticed that lifting while high helps burn off the drug (not the high) from my system faster, eliminating that hangover/ sick feeling the next day after using.

 

[caseface99]

There isn't jack shit to do in my town, so i go hiking alot with people. My friend and i used to do a bunch of heroin and go hiking, and we could litterally run over a mile up this mountain non stop when normally we can hardly walk it without getting to tired (we're skinny ass dope heads in horrible shape, dont hate on the weakness, plus it was steep as hell. >.> ). It makes you sore as FUCK the next day from over exerting yourself, but in my opinion it makes you unstoppable. Just make sure not to go past your limits while working out as you probably wont notice fatigue and muscle strain much at all.

 

[mamacita67]

Opiates makes it a lot easier for me to work out. Without opiates, I find it difficult to work out, but with opiates, I feel more motivated and energetic. Hydrocodone gives me the boost I need, to make myself get up and work out.

 

[weekend addiction]

Kratom is a great workout opiate because it has mild stimulant effects. The mild is key because I don't want to be jittery or have a heart attack. The opiate effects just keep it from being so fucking boring.