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Working on including pips in test kits?

Ringfinger

Ringfinger

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I was wondering if eztest, etc were working on the including piperazines in their testable chemicals. The time is overdue and those snake ass producers are now making MDMa combo pills to trick the test kits.

Fucking time to isolate the pip market and run them out of business.

Long live MDMA.
 
I think the OP meant a reagent that would actually turn a color when coming into contact with piperazines. These damn mixed MDxx/Pipe pills can easily trick the novice tester. :(
 
On the guide of Marquis it states that DXM like substances fizz and bubble
On the Mandelin and Mecke guide it says nothing about piperazines.

I'm just wondering where u got your info from, cuz it's definitely not from the EZ test guides therefore the average user would not know what to look for if dealing with a pipe.

I guess if u know exactly how each of these tests reacts to pipes, let us know, I'm sure we would all love to her it.

Also if using Marquis and the substance bubbles and fizzes how would u know that it's a pipe, not DXM.

It's kinda funny cuz I searched it online (noting about pipes on ez test) and people are quoting BL and the exact same thing Severely etarded said. I want to make sure they didn't quote some other site.

"Actually, there is a way to test for piperazines, I saw it on bluelight. I believe it's the marquis test, and if it fizzles but doesn't change color.. piperazines. It may be a different reagent, I forgot. I'll have to get back on you."
http://www.ravelinks.com/forums/f11/watch-out-for-piperazine-pills-in-the-bay-133534/

OK, I found it on Erowid...why don't they say that in the EZ test guide?

U can also use the Marquis for opiates/heroin (pink to purple)
Very detailed guide of may different chemicals that these reagents can test for as opposed to just the handful that the EZ guides tell u about.
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma_faq_testing_kits.shtml
 
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They don't say that in the EZ Test guide because the piperazine trend is pretty new.

Also, our former wonderful Pill Testing mod, phase_dancer, confirmed the no color change with possible fizzing reactions here in this forum. I'm sure if you used the search function you could find it. :) DXM will turn grey and also possibly smoke with any bubbling, so there's no way you could mistake a DXM reaction with a piperazine reaction. DXM reactions can be somewhat violent.
 
Unfortunately some of the reactions in that erowid guide and also some of the ones posted elsewhere around the net such as drugsforums are flat out wrong. Over the years I have made my own sheet from reactions I've seen, from some BL posts and from a few different PDF's such as the Journal of Forensic Sciences. I would suggest people post a question on BL to confirm the reaction if they are testing a less common chemical that is not reported on the EZ information.

As for your question about whether there is being development done on trying to make a test for piperazines the answer is yes. At least this is what I've heard. I don't know anything specific or much more than that. All I can say is that IMO it would make economic and harm reduction sense to produce a test that can specifically test for piperazines. There is so much of it around the world and no one currently selling a home test kit for it. I'm sure this is well known to those who are doing work in development.
 
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