Wondering if it exists; 2C-MD

[Mracid]

When I saw 2C-O and 2C-G-3, I thought hey is there any 2C-x that has a Methylenedioxy group attached at the 3-4 th carbon ring, you know like MDMA; Methylenedioxy-Methamphetamine. But instead it would be;

2,5-Dimethoxy-3,4-Methylenedioxyphenethylamine.

I't basically be 2C-G-3 with oxygene on the side of the pentagon.

If that substance exists I wonder what it does and if it doesnt I wonder if it's theoretically stable enough to be tested and searched. Would call it 2C-MD

 

[T. Calderone]

Homeless ------- > Psychedelic Drugs

 

[Solipsis]

Yes:

https://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/pihkal/pihkal058.shtml

 

[Mracid]

Thanks ! What is actually funny is that I read Pihkal, but didnt make the link then.. lol

 

[Bigazznugz]

I wonder why they never tried to make this. The synthesis is fairly straightforward using parsley oil. 75 to 100mgs produced lsd like and spiritual effects. It sounds like a decent chemical that never has been thoroughly researched.

 

[Dresden]

Parsley oil has too many substituted allyl benzene compounds of interest to be the first choice precursor for this I would think. I would suggest using Dill Apiole Essential Oil to get

This has been done before, and 35mg did not produce any effect. Considering MMDA can take 300mg to get a decent trip, I would say these earlier experimenters most likely had their dosage level completely wrong. Also, this is the amphetamine version; the 2C version could be made from the essential oil too in a few more steps, but it would be a pain in the ass and likely less potent as well.

 

[Bigazznugz]

Dues the ampethamine version come with the same name. Wouldn't it be called something different?

 

[Solipsis]

This family of Shulgin's creations can be a confusing sequence of M's and D's in the name. Sometimes the M stands for methoxy, sometimes for the methylene in methylenedioxy (MD) or methyl at the alpha.

The amphetamines end on A though, while the phenethylamines end on PEA like this:
https://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/pihkal/pihkal115.shtml

So I guess that would give the name DMMDPEA... but that is so long, maybe it is best to start describing it as an analogue of lophophine:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lophophine

None of this seems to be researched I guess, not even a clue whether 2,3,4,5-tetramethoxyphenethylamine has any activity...

although this does not sound too promising:
https://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/pihkal/pihkal145.shtml

 

[Mracid]

how about 2,5-DIMETHOXY-3,4-METHYLENEDIOXYPHENETHYLAMINE. I cant seem to find it. its like 2,5-DIMETHOXY-3,4-METHYLENEDIOXYAMPHETAMINE minus the methyl group.

 

[tryp2fun]

This family of Shulgin's creations can be a confusing sequence of M's and D's in the name. Sometimes the M stands for methoxy, sometimes for the methylene in methylenedioxy (MD) or methyl at the alpha.

The amphetamines end on A though, while the phenethylamines end on PEA like this:
https://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/pihkal/pihkal115.shtml

So I guess that would give the name DMMDPEA... but that is so long, maybe it is best to start describing it as an analogue of lophophine:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lophophine

None of this seems to be researched I guess, not even a clue whether 2,3,4,5-tetramethoxyphenethylamine has any activity...

although this does not sound too promising:
https://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/pihkal/pihkal145.shtml

This compound is in the Shulgin Index of Phenethyamines as 2C-DMMDA: https://isomerdesign.com/PiHKAL/explore.php?domain=pk&id=7860 . It has been tested in mice and frogs, and has similar effects as mescaline in frogs.

 

[Bigazznugz]

Wow lophophine looks like a truly remarkable chemical I would love to see that one day.