Opioids withdrawals from longterm codeine use?

[kaosisallwesee]

Hey everyone,
Iv been trying to come off codeine, on and off, for what seems like forever. Iv tried tapering down, cold turkey, taking one day off and one on. The furthest I get is a few days into CT, then I cave in and run to the nearest pharmacy.

The only thing I haven't tried is replacing codeine with kratom, which I heard may help.
Will kratom be any good for me? My idea was to taper off kratom after a week or so.

I take anywhere between 500-1200 mg of codeine a day, so im not expecting much from kratom, but will it hold off WD?
What fucks me during CT is the lack of energy and major depression (I would literally cry for hours about nothing).

Im also a bit concerned replacing one addiction with another, how does WD from kratom compare to codeine? Im really not looking to get high off it, but I have an important term at college and just started a new job, so I just want to feel normal again.

I know it may seem to may of you that im just being weak as its only codeine etc.. but it really has a hold on me.
If anyone can advise me on what to do, or your experiences replacing your usual opiate with a kratom taper?
Should I go down the kratom route? or just free up a week to try and cold turkey again?

 

[Jabberwocky]

I would think that some good kratom would work quite well for you, considering how we'll it treats some people I've know who used it to detox from methadone. Codeine is one opiate that I've never had a very good relationship with. Even though I never enjoyed it much, at least compared to almost any other opioid, I do remember the acute w/d being just as difficult physically as morphine. Perhaps as the amount used is so high, although logically that doesn't really make sense either.

In any case, I bet you'd do really well with a tiny buprenorphine taper. Kratom or something like tramadol would also definitely help. Kratom can be nice because of the stimulation is can produce (kinda like caffeine as opposed to amphetamine). There is also loperamide, although most shun it but the most dedicated junkboxes. If you can get a couple 8mg pills or strips of buprenorphine, definitely do that. Three or four strips would probably be enough for a fairly comfortable detox. If you can't or do not want to deal with the legality of shit like that, kratom is absolutely worth it.

Search up on it - there's more than enough info on it out there. And by the way, unless you're dedicated to lowering you dose over time, your kick is just going to get more difficult as you go on. So perhaps it might be the best idea to commit to yourself that, even if you don't end up detoxing next week, you're daily dose won't get higher. Whether it's with methadone or morphine, choosing a dose and sticking with it to maintain till you're ready to jump is A LOT easier than most think. As long as you have something in you, there is nothing to it. Especially when in your situation where your doc is readily available in standardized amounts (think of how much more complicated this would be with dope on the black market).