Withdrawal symptoms turning to long term problems

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Is it possible for opiate withdrawal symptoms to turn into long term problems? Like let's say RLS/leg pains or insomnia.

I may just be scaring myself but I've never experienced w/d's for this long(I've been clean for 9 days, I've never been clean for this long but in the past withdrawals were gone by day 7). My RLS feels like it's gotten to a certain mild intensity and now it's just staying there. Not getting any worse but not any better. As for insomnia, it was usually gone early on in withdrawals but I've slept maybe 12 hours in the past 9 days

I'm not taking any meds and I haven't been taking any. But is it possible for symptoms to turn into long term problems and not just withdrawals anymore? I know getting up and doing shit would help but I do and it's only temporary. I don't have meds for sleeping or money to get any. My mom has lorazepam that I could possibly use to help me sleep but I don't think my parents would give me any. And I don't know if I should be taking a benzo since I'm probably gonna have to take a drug test soon and I can't have any sort of drugs in my system even if I was using it to sleep and not get high and since it's not prescribed to me.

I'm having a bad day:(
 
Hey sorry you are having a bad day<3

When i detoxed I had no more than four hours of sleep for almost five months.. It will get better. I also had pains that would move around and get better an worse. I had a patch of the icy sunburn goosebumps that sailed around my body like a drunken pirate ship, for this time as well. The worst for me though was the fatigue.. it lasted the longest out of all the symptoms. I would have the old bipolar days and hours and sometime minutes.

I would not turn to the benzos as you will likely find yourself developing a whole new problem with those.. many have the opinion that benzos are harder and worse to kick than opiates.

Now that you are past the bad acutes I would really recommend at least 30 minutes of aerobic exercise 5 days a week. It will help with the sleeping.. on top of withdrawals making it hard we are often so used to inducing our sleep with a nightly dose of chemicals that we can forget that it helps ever so much if we are actually physically tired. It will help with the fatigue, it will help with the anxiety, it will help with depression. It can also help immensely with the stress. Exercise also promotes the brain chemistry to return to balance.. natural sleep also does this.. Its really hard to get the system to level back out if we continue to try and solve all our symptoms with the addition of an outside chemical.. the chemicals of the brain are seeming related, I mean that is pretty hard to go in and try and manipulate a specific target with out having it affect other aspects. Since we are looking to have the brain stabilize and return to homeostasis so we can finally find some really strong relief and positive occurrences I would think about going drug free for a year or so or at least until you slip out of the very end of the tunnel. The time period I was told that this happens, by a pain doctor, was into the seventh month, but it keeps getting a little better each and every day, can be kinda slow but I remember being able to see that the week I was in was better thatn the week before and way better than four weeks before.



Another huge thing we need to do to make our trip through the paws as peaceful and enjoyable as possible is to learn how to and implement changing the way we think.

A strong thing to do is to focus all your thoughts in the moment and the day. If we slip into yesterday we can get hit with strong guilt, shame, anger, resentment, if we slip into tomorow we can get slammed with fear, anxiety, frustration, anger, hopelessness, self doubt.

So it good if we can break up whatever we want to do into really easily achieved parts.. then we just keep it simple and keep focused in the moment, search out and find the beauty and amazement in life at all times.. it always there but we so often choose to make ourselves miserable by deciding something sucks or we decide that we are having a bad day.. just playing around a bit and not makeing light of your struggle or yourself=D. This may seem crazy at first.. like NO motherfucker i dont think you get it im really having a bad day.. but it really works, and its not as crazy as deciding to be miserable which is what i used to do so often. Now I no longer judge anything as good or bad. well wait I strive to no longer do this. of course I slip.. I know I slipped because i suddenly find myself unhappy, distraught, angry, depressed, anxious.. so basically when ever I start to feal like shit I back track a bit and see where i am fucking up in how I am choosing to perceive the world, fix the thought process and return to pretty at peace and far from hating life.

If you choose to try and alter your thinking I would just say that its not as hard as i thought it would be.. really the hardest part for me was just realizing we are able to do this.. then it sorta takes time and practice.. but its kinda as easy as every time we feal negative in any way we can just go back and look where we are choosing to be miserable and look at it in a different way. These new revelations just become more and more natural to us as we we work at this and replace our old ways of thinking.

So there are a few things that have helped me out a great deal when I fought the PAWS, as I still humble my addiction, and in life really.

Here are some lesser known people than me that must have traveled forward in time and stole my original ideas to bring back with them.=D

He who lives in harmony with himself lives in harmony with the universe.
Marcus Aurelius

You have power over your mind - not outside events. Realize this, and you will find strength.
Marcus Aurelius

When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love.
Marcus Aurelius

Confine yourself to the present.
Marcus Aurelius

Our life is what our thoughts make it.
Marcus Aurelius

The happiness of your life depends upon the quality of your thoughts:
Marcus Aurelius

The soul becomes dyed with the color of its thoughts.
Marcus Aurelius

The universe is change; our life is what our thoughts make it.
Marcus Aurelius

Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the present moment.
Buddha

We are shaped by our thoughts; we become what we think. When the mind is pure, joy follows like a shadow that never leaves.
Buddha

The mind is everything. What you think you become.
Buddha

We are what we think. All that we are arises with our thoughts. With our thoughts, we make the world.
Buddha

Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without.
Buddha

You, yourself, as much as anybody in the entire universe, deserve your love and affection.
Buddha

Life is how we perceive it.
Our perceptions are based on our thoughts.
We control our thoughts.
So in essence we control how life is.

So much of life we have no control and will never have control over,
but we are in total control of how we choose to perceive what life throws at us.

NSA

Hope this makes sense and helps you if you choose to try and alter your thinking.. junkie enlightenment is quite the thing.. dont forget the Buddha was a wealthy prince that drank, ate and fucked himself silly as a younger man.. then he realized that all that shit doesn't make anyone happy the more that you get the more that you want.. so he looked inward and found the answer to the greatest riddle.. how to be at peace and and enjoy life.

So maybe the

The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom" can certainly be true if we learn what is needed on the road.

You're doing great.. it get better quick.. and it well worth it=D
 
Well benzo's were never my DOC, I've done them a couple time. I bought some one time and a dude gave me some more for free so I had like 6 total. I did one football and passed out like 10 minutes late. I woke up and thought, "well that fucking sucked" so I sold the rest. And I had a bad experience with lorazepam at the beach. I took 4mg at once and was seeing doubles and was just all fucked up. I ended up passing out and family went off and did fun stuff without me that night cuz I wouldn't wake up. So I don't think I would get myself addicted to them. But I'm probably never gonna take them so it doesn't matter haha.

But yeah I understand like 99% of those quotes and I understand what they're telling me. And I'm doing exactly what they're saying not to do. My thoughts of my fiancé are what's making me so miserable and I'm starting to realize that. I look back at previous days when I would get distracted and the thought of her leaves my mind and I feel better. I mean I think of her everyday but in a good way and bad way. I think of how proud I am of her and how well she's doing. These are the thoughts I should keep about her. But then I get those "she's not coming home for a long time" thoughts and I start to feel bad.

I'm trying to learn how to control my depression. I've been reading on a website that someone posted a link to. It's helping but I just get those thoughts out of my head and don't realize. Whenever I start to feel bad I get on my Xbox and play with my new friends. This helps a lot cuz it takes my mind off the bad shit I'm going through especially my physical withdrawal symps. But playing Xbox is becoming a problem for me. Well actually it's been a problem. I sit on it for the majority of the day. I hardly so anything else. I'd go outside but it's still cold. And I still have cold chills from withdrawals and it makes it worse. I'm hoping it'll be warm tomorrow so I can get outside and move around. I got a lot of shit around the house outside that I need to do.

But thanks for the info, I'm gonna use it to my advantage and thanks for the encouragement :)
 
Everyone will be different.

When I had a bad heroin addiction, and quit cold turkey, the acute bed-ridden effects probably lasted almost 5 days, felt really shitty for about a week, was not happy, but was able to exercise around a week to 10 days.
I have bad health problems so I couldn't really do the kind of intense weightlifting and stuff at that point that would have really helped the most, but every little bit of exercise helped. As did getting some sun.

Sorry you are having a a bad day.

Don't talk yourself into using benzos.
 
Everyone will be different.

When I had a bad heroin addiction, and quit cold turkey, the acute bed-ridden effects probably lasted almost 5 days, felt really shitty for about a week, was not happy, but was able to exercise around a week to 10 days.
I have bad health problems so I couldn't really do the kind of intense weightlifting and stuff at that point that would have really helped the most, but every little bit of exercise helped. As did getting some sun.

Sorry you are having a a bad day.

Don't talk yourself into using benzos.

Yeah the first few days i couldn't do anything. I just wanted to lay in bed. I know getting out my house and doing stuff and getting some sun would help out a lot but ever since I quit, the days have been cold and dark and gloomy. I think today has been the first day the sun was actually shinning. But it was still a little cold. And the cold chills associated with w/d's can make the warmest days cold. I still have minor cold chills but tomorrow is supposed to be in the mid 60's so hopefully I'll be able to get outside and work, I want too. I'm a cold natured person too, it can be 80 degrees out and I'll be walking around in sweat pants and a hoodie haha.

I don't think ill ever be able to get my hands on the benzo's. I don't think my dad would let me have some. But like I said, I never really like them so if I did take them it would only be like once a night for a couple days. If he did give me some than he's only give me one at a time cuz he knows I wouldn't need more than that and I couldn't take them cuz they're locked up in a safe. I'm not worried about getting addicted to them. I never had a problem with them the few time I did them. Opiates were always my DOC. But it's a .01% chance I'll get a benzo. I probably just try some NyQuil for sleep
 
Ugh... Yeah... Sometimes, the RLS never goes away.... And sometimes, the insomnia doesn't completely go away... It sucks dude... I am so sorry.. I still deal with all that on a regular and its been 8 months... I hope you feel better!!:)
 
Ugh... Yeah... Sometimes, the RLS never goes away.... And sometimes, the insomnia doesn't completely go away... It sucks dude... I am so sorry.. I still deal with all that on a regular and its been 8 months... I hope you feel better!!:)

Yeah see RLS is my biggest fear, I absolutely fucking hate it!! It annoys me so much. It hasn't been bad lately though. I think I'm gonna start smokin bud again and that'll help me sleep. I've been smoking for twice as long as I used oxy and H and it's never been a problem for me. Idk how my fiancé is gonna feel about me smoking though, I haven't told her my decision to keep smoking. But I have told her in the past that whenever we quit the opiates that I will continue to smoke, so she shouldn't get too mad haha
 
You'll be fine dude. It seems like maybe you weren't completely 'ready' to quit opiates (most of your posts have indicated that), and as a result, this is going to be a psychological battle. The brain always goes back to homeostasis, and all symptoms will go away.

With you, you just need to realize you're better off without opiates. You got this dude.
 
You'll be fine dude. It seems like maybe you weren't completely 'ready' to quit opiates (most of your posts have indicated that), and as a result, this is going to be a psychological battle. The brain always goes back to homeostasis, and all symptoms will go away.

With you, you just need to realize you're better off without opiates. You got this dude.

Yeah in a way I was ready just cuz I was tired of feeling like shit but at the same time I wasn't ready to give em up. It's all I've know for over 4 years and it's hard to abruptly stop. But I realize how better off I am without the shit and that it was doing nothing but hurting myself and everyone I love.

And yeah the physical shit isn't really bothering me anymore but I've had the mindset that I will use again one day but I'm trying to get out of that. I am going to start smoking again though. I can control my "use" with bud, I never over did it and i never let it control my life like the opiates did. I smoked for years before I started pills and H and weed was never a problem for me. Some may be skeptical about that decision but now know how much addiction has fucked me and I'm gonna try everything i possibly can to never let it happen again. But who knows, I might not smoke. It all depends on how my fiancé reacts to my decision and what she thinks. Personally I see nothing wrong with smoking a little bud. If you can keep a job and do what you gotta do and not let it control you than go ahead and smoke and that's how I've been with smoking in the past
 
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