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Cocaine Willthis method of smoking work?

frontbluntt

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If I put a tiny later of weed on the bottom of a bowl, then sprinkle on some coke, and then put tons of weed on top, and then light only the top layer of the smoke and then take the flame away and suck so that the hot smoke (hopefully) vapes the cocaine?

I got the idea from the "stacking" method used to smoke DMT, another substance which is destroyed by flame yet still smokable using the stacking/sandwhich method.

I've also had friends roll spliffs with some coke at the very bottom by the filter so no flame touches it, just hot smoke.
 
no it will not work well. if you want to smoke cocaine you should turn it into base. if your not down for that then you should stick to snorting. if you really don't want to smoke cocaine base then don't bother smoking cocaine at all because it sounds like you're concerned about wasting, so smoking hcl would not be a good idea.

honestly it might work a little, but you would maybe get 10 % of the cocaine. I get that "crack" has a stigma but if you want it to work you should do it right, otherwise you're better off snorting it.

not to mention the fact that powder cocaine is so god damned dirty it would be pretty disgusting. I've done it before and the taste was horrible, barely any noticable effects.
 
I'm pretty sure you'd pyrolyze your coke, which would be cocaine abuse. Could do it off foil, which is less wasteful.
 
You will get a little something but not much. People have packed cigarettes for years and some like it but if the stuff has any weird cut it can be real nasty from what I hear.
 
This would definitely not work. You don't smoke cocaine hcl. You smoke cocaine freebase. This would require you to turn it into crack first. I always laughed back in the days when kids would sprinkle cocaine up in blunt that coulda been worth like $50, haha, then watch them all hit it, many felt oral numbness but not much else besides the occasional placebo effect.

If you're going to be smoking weed and cocaine, it must be cocaine base, not the hydrochloride salt.
 
I'm sure I read somewhere that powder cocaine doesn't smoke properly, but if it's pure enough you will get some effects. Could be completely wrong as I've only ever smoked crack and your reasoning that it wouldn't work as it is in the salt form sounds right to me.
 
I've smoked blunts rolled with coke, I've smoked blunts rolled with crack. One got me high, one of them gets you so high you don't notice the marijuana.
 
I'm pretty sure you'd pyrolyze your coke, which would be cocaine abuse. Could do it off foil, which is less wasteful.

done it off foil before, seemed extremely wasteful, but perhaps I did it wrong.

Was just curious about this DMT method I though up.

ANyways, I gave it a try and it definitely worked, much better than when I tried off foil, but possibly the weed skewed those results a bit (but not much).

I agree it's a total waste and will stick to snorting, just thought up this idea and wanted to test it out.

It worked much better than foil for me, although I think I wasn't doing the foil totally correctly (as in, pretty sure)

Anyways, it was a fun experiment.

When I smoked it off foil, it took so many hits and barely seemed to work. Using this bong method, I got a legitimate rush instantly when I blew the smoke out, so it really worked for sure.

EDIT: I have never smoked crack so don't ask me for any comparisons as I won't be able to help
 
I've smoked blunts rolled with coke, I've smoked blunts rolled with crack. One got me high, one of them gets you so high you don't notice the marijuana.

Do you still get the rush like you do when smoked in a pipe? I'm guessing no, but crack without the rush doesn't seem possible.
 
done it off foil before, seemed extremely wasteful, but perhaps I did it wrong.

Was just curious about this DMT method I though up.

ANyways, I gave it a try and it definitely worked, much better than when I tried off foil, but possibly the weed skewed those results a bit (but not much).

I agree it's a total waste and will stick to snorting, just thought up this idea and wanted to test it out.

It worked much better than foil for me, although I think I wasn't doing the foil totally correctly (as in, pretty sure)

Anyways, it was a fun experiment.

When I smoked it off foil, it took so many hits and barely seemed to work. Using this bong method, I got a legitimate rush instantly when I blew the smoke out, so it really worked for sure.

EDIT: I have never smoked crack so don't ask me for any comparisons as I won't be able to help

the reason is probably because off foil it is exposed to more direct and higher heat levels, where as mixed in weed the heat is lower. you say you haven't smoked crack before, and thats probably why it worked for you. if you were going into this experience having smoked crack in the past then I think the effects would have been much less noticeable. its cool if you enjoyed it, but I think you'll agree that its more of something to try once and then never do again (unlike it's cracky cousin).

because I dont think it has been explained thoroughly enough in this thread I think I'll go into a little mini science lesson for those interested. the reason why this wont work, as it's been stated earlier, is because hcl molecules burn at a lower temp. this is true for all the drugs I can think of, it's the reason why heroin base in the uk aka #3 smokes better than #4 and needs an acid to be dissolved and injected (just like crack). anyways so the process of turning a hydrochloride or salt form of a drug into a base raises the temperature at which that compound burns. when you smoke down crack you dont want it to burn, you want it to vaporize because burning causes the molecules to break down and degrade. so when cocaine hcl is turned into a base the melting point is lowered and the temp at which it burns/degrades is higher making it easier to smoke. when you smoke powder (or attempt to vaporize), depending on your method you will be burning a lot of the compound meaning you'll inhale god knows what and you will only vaporize a small amount of the total drug you are trying to smoke. some compounds, notably cannabanoids, can be smoked in their hcl form due to the propertys of the molecule, but in general attempting to vaporize creates better results. another notable exception is crystal meth, this chemical vaporizes fine in it's hcl form, and because meth base is a viscious oily liquid no one bothers trying to free base it. apvp and mdpv are some other ones I wont go into detail about because I'm not experienced with them
 
the reason is probably because off foil it is exposed to more direct and higher heat levels, where as mixed in weed the heat is lower. you say you haven't smoked crack before, and thats probably why it worked for you. if you were going into this experience having smoked crack in the past then I think the effects would have been much less noticeable. its cool if you enjoyed it, but I think you'll agree that its more of something to try once and then never do again (unlike it's cracky cousin).

because I dont think it has been explained thoroughly enough in this thread I think I'll go into a little mini science lesson for those interested. the reason why this wont work, as it's been stated earlier, is because hcl molecules burn at a lower temp. this is true for all the drugs I can think of, it's the reason why heroin base in the uk aka #3 smokes better than #4 and needs an acid to be dissolved and injected (just like crack). anyways so the process of turning a hydrochloride or salt form of a drug into a base raises the temperature at which that compound burns. when you smoke down crack you dont want it to burn, you want it to vaporize because burning causes the molecules to break down and degrade. so when cocaine hcl is turned into a base the melting point is lowered and the temp at which it burns/degrades is higher making it easier to smoke. when you smoke powder (or attempt to vaporize), depending on your method you will be burning a lot of the compound meaning you'll inhale god knows what and you will only vaporize a small amount of the total drug you are trying to smoke. some compounds, notably cannabanoids, can be smoked in their hcl form due to the propertys of the molecule, but in general attempting to vaporize creates better results. another notable exception is crystal meth, this chemical vaporizes fine in it's hcl form, and because meth base is a viscious oily liquid no one bothers trying to free base it. apvp and mdpv are some other ones I wont go into detail about because I'm not experienced with them

Yes as I said, it was just an experiment, I'm not going to change from snorting

But the verdict is, it definitely worked and was an interesting little experiment, however there is absolutely no way it could replace snorting.
 
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