• 💊 OTHER DRUGS 💊 Welcome Guest
    Posting Rules Bluelight Rules
    Notable Threads 1 Notable Threads 2
    Dangerous Combos Addiction Support
    Emergency Services Benzo Guide v.1
    Addiction Stories Scary Case Studies
    Biology, Pharmacology & Drugs 101
  • Select Your Topic Then Scroll Down
    Alcohol Bupe Benzos
    Cocaine Heroin Opioids
    RCs Stimulants Misc
    Harm Reduction All Topics Gabapentinoids
    Tired of your habit? Struggling to cope?
    Want to regain control or get sober?
    Visit our Recovery Support Forums

Opioids will the wd be bad 1 week on subs

C

curtismoff

Greenlighter
Joined
Jul 9, 2010
Messages
15
Been on subs for 5 days now after year and a half on roxies and couple times H.First day whole 8 mg strip slept almost all day 2nd day 2 halfs 12 hours apart.I have told myself never again on the oxycodone as it takes alot for me to really feel them and they are very pricey,NOT worth it for sure! I gotta be done this time last time I made it 3 weeks I dont want to stay on the subs as I dont want to trade one addiction for another and I got the subs off the street.Thanks in advance I read the sub thread and it didnt answer my question.
 
Yo i feel for ya. Def dont continue down the suboxone path as i did, there worse to get off than any opiate i've wd from. You will def feel discomfort, as pretty much the sub just got rid of the oxy withdrawal by giving your body opiates, you weren't stabilized on subs and you haven't been on them nearly long enough to be tapered off like you did. I mean i dont wanna tell you this but its better you know, the subs really just prolonged the WD from the other opiates, its gonna be bad man. But be strong and remember that giving in just restarts the cycle. Good luck man.
 
Yeah, if you want to get it over an done with then subs are a bad idea.

Try going into full on withdrawal and if it gets unbearable then take a tiiiiiny amount of sub, like 0.5mg. This will prolong your withdrawal however.

Sub withdrawals are horrid, they last ages, so don't fuck with them for long.

Basically, you pay for it relative to the amount of opiates you do, so if you want out now then just spend 4 days in bed sweating and shitting it out!

Oh, and good luck! You'll be feeling pretty OK in a week if you stop this instant. With an addiction to subs you'll have anxiety and restless legs for weeks after cessation.
 
I'm gonna disagree with these two posts and say that sub w/d's are a cakewalk compared to any full agonist opiate.

yeah, they last 2 weeks or more, but they're so mild that it's more like an annoyance than a full on w/d, just make sure you taper your dose down to .5mg or less for a week or two and then jump off. if you aren't just sitting in your house thinking about how shitty your life is then you'll forget your even withdrawling IME.

I was on oxys for 3 years followed by IV heroin for 3 more, then I got on subs and worked them for another year or so until finally I was only doing .5mg or less daily, then I got locked up for 21 days in county jail so obviously I didn't have the optimal conditions to jump off, but I did it and now that I'm out of lockup I have been pretty much completely clean for almost a year.

so my advice is stick with suboxone as long as you can, tapering your dose down to as small of a dose as you can, and then when you're ready, stop altogether.
 
^^ Yeah but he said that he didn't want to be on subs for long.

I agree that some people feel no WD from bupe, but everyone's different and I, personally, felt sub withdrawal to be fucking horrible; especially having to work in a job I hated during.

It will take weeks to taper the sub down to 0,5mg, and then he'll have to go through weeks of WD's.

I am not dismissing your comment dP, but I think if he can, he should just cold turkey. Many people on here seem to hail subs to be an absolute life-saving godsend, some wish they had never heard of it.

I think subs should really be reserved for heavy, long-term users, who simply cannot stop.

OP, the choice is yours. Good luck!
 
For real... my taper lasted forever. The best way to do it if u can is once down to .5 or whatever, switch to every other day. Makes w/d's not as bad.
 
Seems all here are telling me my days of feeling shitty are coming.Remember I have only taken them for 5 days and really feel Good!dAY 4 WAS A REALLY GOOD DAY i FELT GREAT ! I just picked up 60 1mg xanax.;) This is the 3rd time tryin with the subs I REALLY DONT WANNA EVER DO OZYCODONE AGAIN iT'S A WASTE OF MONEY AS I NEED 100 DOLLARS WORTH THE GIT HIGH! NOT WORTH IT sorry bout the caps locked and thanks for the responce This shit has taken me over,and I don't like this never was hooked on anything till 42 years old 46 now. STUPID ! should have read the directions before I showed up the this party lol
 
I don't wanna take the subs past 2 weeks What am I in for people ?Really wish I just had someone to talk to about this,my friends and family are in the dark.I've turned into a pretty good liar since I became a drug addict.I am soon going to a NA metting just to listen.
 
Last edited:
your going to want to get off the subs quickly, Sub withdrawal is bad. It sounds bad to trade one drug for another but you could always try to get some tramadol? it sounds bad again, but tahts how i got off oc, then sub, and then tramadol i had no Wd
 
I plan to take my last little piece Thursday.So sat and sundayI'm gonna feel like shit again?? Remeber only took these since last friday.
 
When my WD was shitty from subs i was on for 10 days, so it could depend on the person, my gf was on the same as me hers were not as bad. It made me want to find something else to coutner it, flexeral and ultram did work well and didnt push more opiates into myself
 
I believe that if buprenorphine (suboxone, etc) is used to do a quick taper (1-2 weeks maximum) then the withdrawals from bupe itself should be minimal. Its when people stay on it for longer, for maintenance, then taper down and quit that the withdrawals get horrible.

I'm approaching day 9 off of ~70mg methadone daily, and have been using as little subs as I feel necessary. I only have about 4 left anyways, so a rapid taper over the next ~5ish days should do it. We'll see how it goes..
 
Question... if the OP had NOT been addicted to opiates before the week long use of sub. How bad would the wds be?
 
Its wensday early morn havent have a sub piece since yesterday noon I slept great thanks to xanax and feel good now gonna take some to work and only take some if I start to freak out.I thought this shit was behind me at noon yesterday that little peice seems to get me kinda high Ive been smoking
a little weed here and there also and dont like xanax at work makes me tired as a mofo.I wanna be free from this bullshit I'm 46 and never took a pill until I was 42
 
well it sounds like you're on your way to that as long as you've got the willpower to stay off the pills once you've gotten through w/ds, that's really the hard part IMO. getting clean is much easier than staying clean.

axe battler said:
^^ Yeah but he said that he didn't want to be on subs for long.

I agree that some people feel no WD from bupe, but everyone's different and I, personally, felt sub withdrawal to be fucking horrible; especially having to work in a job I hated during.

It will take weeks to taper the sub down to 0,5mg, and then he'll have to go through weeks of WD's.

I am not dismissing your comment dP, but I think if he can, he should just cold turkey. Many people on here seem to hail subs to be an absolute life-saving godsend, some wish they had never heard of it.

I think subs should really be reserved for heavy, long-term users, who simply cannot stop.

OP, the choice is yours. Good luck!
Click to expand...

the first bold part is absolutely true and I couldn't agree more, everyone is different, I know people who have tried subs 5, 6, 7, 10 times and they just don't work for them. I also know people like me, who had to try twice or 3 times but it eventually worked, and I've met people who try them once and boom, they're done with opiates forever.

I think it really comes down to your mental situation at the time. if you are 100% committed to getting clean and staying clean, then suboxone is a great tool to have in the arsenal, IMO if you are only getting clean because you have to (law, parents, spouse, etc) then suboxone is only going to maintain you until the heat is off and you'll go right back to using when the coast is clear.


the second part I disagree with a little bit, because when I started on subs I, like most dope feens, was trying to get high still. so I took two 8's the first day and basically wasted them. because for me, as I found out later, 16mg does the same as 8mg which does the same as 4mg which does the same as 2mg.... it was only when I started going down to 1mg, .5mg, .25mg that I noticed a little difference....

IME people should start off with 4mg or less, because you're only fooling yourself thinking that 16mg is necessary when you could have the same relief of symptoms from 4mg. so using this, a quick taper could go from 4mg monday, to .5mg on saturday and the effects would be almost the same for the user.

this is of course just my experience, as you said, everyone is different. but if I were asked to set up a taper for someone trying to quit, and I only had limited subs to work with, that is how I would do it.
 
donkeyPUNCH said:
the second part I disagree with a little bit, because when I started on subs I, like most dope feens, was trying to get high still. so I took two 8's the first day and basically wasted them. because for me, as I found out later, 16mg does the same as 8mg which does the same as 4mg which does the same as 2mg.... it was only when I started going down to 1mg, .5mg, .25mg that I noticed a little difference....

IME people should start off with 4mg or less, because you're only fooling yourself thinking that 16mg is necessary when you could have the same relief of symptoms from 4mg. so using this, a quick taper could go from 4mg monday, to .5mg on saturday and the effects would be almost the same for the user.

this is of course just my experience, as you said, everyone is different. but if I were asked to set up a taper for someone trying to quit, and I only had limited subs to work with, that is how I would do it.
Click to expand...

^Yeah, I suppose this is true.
I was taking subutex to get high, sniffing up to 16mg daily, and getting nowhere.

If I had stayed below that 2mg mark I could have saved myself a lot of pain and money.

Quick tapers are possible if you're not starting on 32mg, 16mg or whatever.
 
36 hours with nothing feel kinda tired this morn and had loose BM other than that I'm okay.Been hitting the dug out one hitter every 3 hours or so with some desent weed I feel like I beat this thing kinda empowered like I can quit anything lol cigs are next
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top