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Will the new generation of LU party pills be tested?

it seems like pills (online "legals") like these just use the most recent devopments in RC's imo. (which obviously sucks because not only is it dangerous by not disclosing the active ingrediants, but it's also putting those RC's right up there on the to do list for our governments "what shall we ban next" list.)
ultimately it will lead to analogue laws that are so vague and encapsulating that it will be virtually impossible to get high off of anything that doesn't create income for the government.... sad world.

from memroy from another thread, the queensland analogue/drug laws etc, are so vague that it is almost just illegal to take a drug that gets you high. i've mentioned before that i believe this is an amazingly huge violation of human rights/freedom. i mean it doesn't neccasarilly affect me a great deal (being from nsw), but i feel that bit by bit, we are losing more and more of our civil liberties and rights (same thing?). Laws just keep on being created that restrict personal freedom. it's like our world is turning into that totalitarian sort of society that you see in the moives like aeon flux, Equilibrium, V for vendetta etc....
Problem is that it is happening at such as slowish steady rate that you don't really realise how it's all happening right in front of our eyes.

i think the funniest thing in this world is that is illegal to down yourself.
like seriously, can you imagine doing time (or paying for it) after an unsuccessful suicide attempt? something not quite right there hey... (not sure if this is right, but i wouldn't be surprised if it is the case)
i have simillar feelings with how there are laws against self mutilation. i mean damn if someone wants a scar tissue tatoo, let them do it if that's what they want.

what was that movie a while ago? free Willie.

fuck that.

Free Will!

I think the "resistance" that you see in the terminator (and series), will some day actually become a reality.
but obviously the resistance will be against the government, not "computers". Though the simple logic used by governments when legislation these days doesn't really differ from the logic of your average computer program.... 200 people die each year from car crashes. ban cars and no-one will die in a car crash..
 
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Eur J Clin Pharmacol. 2008 May;64(5):553-4. Epub 2008 Jan 16.Click here to read Links
Detection of the pharmaceutical agent glaucine as a recreational drug.
Dargan PI, Button J, Hawkins L, Archer JR, Ovaska H, Lidder S, Ramsey J, Holt DW, Wood DM.


Toxicological screen on a a patient admitted to hospital after a reaction to LU Head candy.
 
well im sure you all found this link but just in case:

Yellow Horned Poppy Extract (Glaucine Hbr and Fb 99%)
Glaucine hbr 99%

The sea poppy has a long history of use in European homemade medicine, serving to treat gallstones and ailments of the liver and stomach. Presently, Glaucium flavum is being studied in an attempt to isolate beneficial properties of its alkaloids, focusing especially on cancer treatment. Effects currently understood include: the inhibition of cancerous cells (in rabbits), significant antiviral and antibacterial power (in mice), and use as a cosmetic (pigmentation) treatment. In advanced doses, this plant is known to take the form of a depressive inebriant and - in even heavier doses - as a toxin.

More generally, however, this plant’s major strength lies in the treatment of drug addiction – it is capable of relieving the symptoms of withdrawal. Some beneficial effects of Glaucine are: relieving smooth muscle spasms (intestine and stomach), acting to suppress coughing (antitussive properties), lowering of blood pressure, and soothing pain by triggering the release of the body’s histamines.


great, its a toxin at higher doses!
 
vecktor said:
This is public domain:


Eur J Clin Pharmacol. 2008 May;64(5):553-4. Epub 2008 Jan 16.Click here to read Links
Detection of the pharmaceutical agent glaucine as a recreational drug.
Dargan PI, Button J, Hawkins L, Archer JR, Ovaska H, Lidder S, Ramsey J, Holt DW, Wood DM.


Toxicological screen on a a patient admitted to hospital after a reaction to LU Head candy.

Head Candy is different to LU Doves, London underground (LU) is the company, different pill. From what I read, it's crap and wrecks people a bit.

marklar_the_23rd said:
great, its a toxin at higher doses!

We don't know what's in them yet. it's just speculation.
 
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I agree that we're heading towards a more toletarian society with more and more personal freedoms being taken away. But I think a lot of why they're passing these analogue laws is to save them the trouble of having to specifically ban every single new thing that comes out. Law enforcement will also be able to increasingly enforce these laws with advancing technology.

All I can say is that we've enjoyed a period of relatively unrestricted experimentation via legal highs but could never expect the party to last forever.

As for LU DOves and SummerDaze, I woudln't be surprised if thtey contain a beta ketone like bk-mbdb. Maybe not that specific chemical but similar; plus they may tweak the formula from time to time.
 
You don't need to refer to them as plant food, if anything you're just telling customs what to look for. :\
 
Just got this in my email:




Would be good to know what is in them, as they're definitely becoming more popular down here.

Interesting to note that the BZP free groove ones list "Synthetic equivalent of standardized Geranium oil extract" as their main ingredient.
Methylhexaneamine maybe?




My bet is on them containing Geranamine, or DMAA. From what I've read of another bluelighter's experience with this chemical, and the fact that they claim it is a standardized geranium oil extract, I'm pretty sure that this would be the active. Sorry if this has been stated previously, I'm just posting here because anthony bumped this topic.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1,3-dimethypentylamine_hydrochloride
 
All of these said substances suck ass. No recreational potential whatsoever.
 
I tried these a couple years back. They were a waste of bloody money.
 
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