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Will taking 2CB 14 hours after an acid trip be less or more affective?

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andrew777

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Will taking 2CB 14 hours after an acid trip be less or more affective? Also could it have any negative affects on the brain? All hypothetical of course ^.^
 
I'd say the effects would be pretty much the same, maybe a little less intensity just because you're coming almost straight from one altered state of mind to another... if you get what I mean.

I doubt there would be any health risks, but you might get that "fried brain" feeling once the 2c-b wears off
 
Don't worry about talking hypothetically or using the phrase SWIM, there isn't any problem with it.

My answer is: most likely it is far less effective. By then (after 14 hours) the acute tolerance from taking the acid is much stronger than the synergistic effects would be expected to be for compensation. I cannot help but wonder about the situation that would warrant such a timing of drug-taking, but maybe during festivals or home-hosted long psychedelic weekend parties this is possibly something desirable?

An important addition to the answer is: results (aka your mileage) may vary. Some people take acid two days in a row and get little tolerance effects. But most do. It is unwise to assume too much tolerance and potentially overshoot your acceptable intensity with high doses though it is also a shame if extremely apprehensive late-redosing is attempted.

My advice is: take a normal dose of 2C-B if you want to try this, not a higher one. If there is little cross-tolerance and a lot of synergy then you are in for a treat but not an overwhelming and bludgeoning one (granted 2C-B is gentle by nature). If there is a lot of cross-tolerance and you are already coming down too much from the acid to have real synergy it would be mild but you then know your reaction for future reference and can gauge if another 5 or 10 mg would be needed.

Also, check how you feel after those 14 hours. If you feel peaceful but energetically drained the 2C-B may feel naggy like trying to give you a psychedelic little wave that does not feel worthwhile at all. A proper acid trip often gives the feeling that it provides everything that was asked for. If you want a longer ride I suggest redosing acid at an earlier moment to prolong the acid plateau.

Experienced trippers may take all of this for granted and drop an unreserved high dose of 2C-B accepting the possibility that it will be an extra turn and peak in the roller coaster ride. But if you were one I would definitely not expect you to ask this question here, if you catch my drift. ;)
 
Also, check how you feel after those 14 hours. If you feel peaceful but energetically drained the 2C-B may feel naggy like trying to give you a psychedelic little wave that does not feel worthwhile at all. A proper acid trip often gives the feeling that it provides everything that was asked for.
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That stands for many psychedelics, not just acid, as well.

I often felt so good after tripping that I'd rather stay completely sober after, not even drinking etc. and still feel amazing. Trips can be exhausting, and sobriety after them feels like long awaited peaceful home.
 
Bone14 said:
Alot less effective, cross tolerance.
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I don't think there is much cross tolerance. I've taken LSD and then 2c-i the next day with no remarkably diminished effects. I thought that LSD cross tolerance was limited to psilocin and mescaline mostly. 2c-x tolerance in and of itself seems to be pretty unique
 
Ondine said:
I don't think there is much cross tolerance. I've taken LSD and then 2c-i the next day with no remarkably diminished effects. I thought that LSD cross tolerance was limited to psilocin and mescaline mostly. 2c-x tolerance in and of itself seems to be pretty unique
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Both phens and LSD are still agonists at the the receptors responsible for psychedelic activity and so they will produce cross tolerance. You're just lucky/weird I guess - most people definitely report cross tolerance between the two. The cross tolerance might not be quite as pronounced because they cover a different range of receptors, but this difference is most likely not going to be that pronounced for most people IMO.
 
I just decided that I didnt want to take the 2CB with my acid dose. And im really in the mood to trip again, how long does an lsd tolerance last? I was just going to take a nap this evening and then wake up and dose the 2cb
 
Yeah I think you'd probably be alright to just do it the next day. The cross tolerance wouldn't be too noticeable, but if you're really that fussed just wait a week.
 
Folley said:
Why not just combine then and trip like a pro?
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^ qft.

Either take them at same time or at the peak of the L. Fantastic combo, would ensure the intensity. If is actual verifiably LSD it is an outrageously chilled, spaced out vibe. Very heavily visual. Otherwise dont take them consecutively, the main effects of 2c-b are highly susceptible to tolerance, IME.
 
Ondine said:
I don't think there is much cross tolerance. I've taken LSD and then 2c-i the next day with no remarkably diminished effects. I thought that LSD cross tolerance was limited to psilocin and mescaline mostly. 2c-x tolerance in and of itself seems to be pretty unique
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All psychedelics that act on the 5ht2a receptors share cross-tolerance. However tolerance seems to have a lesser effect on phenethylamines - so it is much easier to trip, and then take a 2C the next day, than it is to trip one day, and take mushrooms the next with good effects. In both cases tolerance will be present, but for most people the mushroom trip will be greatly reduced/possibly even non-existent while the 2C trip will be much closer to normal potency.

Psychedelic tolerance tends to last between 2-4 weeks for most people, depending on the time intervals between their most recent trips. However, tripping 5-7 days after your last trip is usually almost as good as waiting the full 2-4 weeks, provided you don't repeat again every week. (in which case the time to really shake your tolerance grows)

Personally I say it's always better to wait the 2-4 weeks to achieve a full experience, but if it's for a special occasion or something, even tripping 2 or 3 days in a row shouldn't cause any problems - just don't expect the 2nd/3rd/etc days to be quite as magical as the first :)
 
Yes, I think the LSD will knock the stuffing out of your receptors and the 2c-b trip will be massively lower in intensity.

I've taken MDMA 1-2 days after LSD and you barely feel it.
 
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