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will prohibition of e today one day be looked at like alcohol prohibition long ago?

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will prohibition of e today one day be looked at like alcohol prohibition long ago?

if so, how long till it's legal for recreational use?

or will it be regulated like xanax etc? regulated and not legal for recreational use?
 
Maybe in the distant future. Personally I don't think anything "trippy" will ever become legalized while were still alive (phenethylamines, hallucinogens, empathogens ect ect ect) This is the same reason I don't think cannabis will become legal (it is part hallucinogenic) at least in north america.
 
I personally think that we will see weed legal for adults in the US in our life time but for MDMA or all other drugs in general...I doubt it. I bet it will run in cycles where every couple of 100 years people will see how much more destructive prohibition is than the substances themselves then slowly substances will be made legal. but it will be a slow process 1 drug at a time. then they will be banned again 1 by 1 as public opinion changes then the slow process of anit-prohibition again...ect

I do think that we will see an increase in study of MDMA for medical use because they are getting good results with with the PTSD study going on now but as for it being legal for recrational use...I don't think anyone alive now will live to see it.
 
I hope so because

1. it would save some lives from getting pharmaceutal pure mdma (and no junk fillers) that junk on the street is causing bad brain damage and in some cases deaths
2. the govt or whoever sells it could make $ off of it
3. I do think it needs to be controlled where a person can only buy it twice or even once a year, depending on their age, health condition(and dose would be according to weight)

I would not surprised if mdma became prescription only in my lifetime because maps has been doing the research and continues to do it, and with the funding. I would be surprsied if it were sold over the counter in a pharmacy, I hope it does though it would prevent a lot of harm
 
Like all drugs I hope it does... but MDMA can be an extremely damaging drug when abused. I think it would need to have certain regulations that went with it's sale... like only being able to buy it once a month, something like that.


If it was viewed by our society the way we look at alcohol, there could be some serious problems that went along with that.
 
Folley said:
Like all drugs I hope it does... but MDMA can be an extremely damaging drug when abused. I think it would need to have certain regulations that went with it's sale... like only being able to buy it once a month, something like that.


If it was viewed by our society the way we look at alcohol, there could be some serious problems that went along with that.
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You'd never be able to regulate that. DXM is readily available in shops, as is asprin and paracetamol that can give you a nasty case of liver failure. You can drink yourself to death in one sitting if you wanted.

The only reason we don't do these things is because we have been educated not to. Before anything becomes legal people need to be told the facts. Which is catch 22 I guess, because it will never become legal until people understand the fact that using ecstasy responsibly is as unlikely to harm you as drink or tabacco [short term], but like all things that feel wonderful to consume, there are always long term consequences
 
Folley said:
Like all drugs I hope it does... but MDMA can be an extremely damaging drug when abused. I think it would need to have certain regulations that went with it's sale... like only being able to buy it once a month, something like that.
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DXM is just as bad if not worse, and any kiddo can go to their local CVS and get a big ol' bottle of it

fuck the war on drugs!

Oh, and as long as the mega-bankers are laundering the illicit profits, nothing will ever be legalized. Alcohol prohibition was ended in an era when politicians still had morals and a conscience. Nowadays politics is just greed, greed, greed.
 
I don't think so. Humanity has been consuming alcohol since the dawn of time and so prohibition is actually going against the long-term trend. MDMA in its pure form is a modern invention and is just not as important culturally.

The reason why alcohol broke through prohibition so easily was because it's an extremely culturally imbedded product. MDMA does not share the same popularity.

Maybe some day we will see how wrong it was to ban MDMA because it has therapeutic value, but the same can be said for many other drugs.
 
In the Future? Yes. I believe one day we will evolve to be mentally capable of handling all psychoactive substances with the knowledge and respect they deserve.

Now? No. Many people simply take MDMA as a way of rebellion or carelessness, which is destructive and not the point. For every 1 person skilled in HR, there are probably 5 or 6, who do not give a damn.
 
As it is a Class-A drug, I doubt you'll see it legal anytime soon. However, decriminalization, yes. Portugal has decrimin-ed all drugs, although I think they still reserve the right to prosecute and I hear at that big rave festival thing in Portugal there is an amnesty where the police do not interfere with open selling. Still, we're not going to see Glaxo producing pills.
 
If MDMA were legal it would, ideally, be as cheap as aspirin is today. However, you get a permanent tolerance after taking a couple hundred pills even if it's pure. It doesn't matter if you space them every three days or every three months. Most people move on to methamphetamine at that point, and things go down hill quickly.
 
squarerootof23 said:
My thoughts exactly. MDMA does not have the historical cultural backing that alcohol does.

In the case of alcohol, people look back at prohibition (in the USA), and say, "Boy, that was stupid interference in long-established behaviors in peoples' lives." In the case of MDMA, people will look back and say, "Well, maybe prohibition didn't work all that well, but it was new in human experience so we had to err on the side of safety."
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Or that Government knew it was missing out on a giant cash cow, one that if they let live would only laugh in the face of the war against drugs and in particular the outlawing of LSD.

In my opinion.
 
I think it would have been legal if it hadn't made it to the party scene first. If it was first sent out to the FDA to be approved as some sort of trauma medicine I think it would be as available as xanax.
 
squarerootof23 said:
Another difference:

In the case of prohibition, the alcohol industry wanted prohibition to go away.

In the case of mdma, I'm assuming the alcohol industry would like to see mdma (potential competition, and something that could potentially make drinking look very dangerous if combined, etc.) remain illegal and frightening.
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I believe MDMA's competition with almost all parts of the economy make it highly undesirable. Lack of appetite, "Upness", Disregard for consumer products, Lazy after effects, Music preference. The list goes on, but alcohol would certainly become inferior to many people.

Dresden said:
If MDMA were legal it would, ideally, be as cheap as aspirin is today. However, you get a permanent tolerance after taking a couple hundred pills even if it's pure. It doesn't matter if you space them every three days or every three months. Most people move on to methamphetamine at that point, and things go down hill quickly.
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Moving on isn't always in a negative direction.

But I see your point and it has a lot of wisdom that beginners to ecstasy do not see yet.
Now, legal meth is an entirely different issue.
 
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I wish. The thing that confuses me is how there isn't a single country anywhere where it's actually legal and controlled... by now we should know better...
 
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