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Hopeless Will my body ever return to normal after Heroin\Fentanyl detox?

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JacobbThomas98

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Let me first say that I realize and understand there's all types of "normal" and that everyone's body is different. But other than that, I'm a 22 year old male and have used heroin for the past 1 and a half years roughly (Mainly my R.O.A was snorting). About 6-7 months ago I started using daily. Then after about 2 months of snorting all day everyday, I began injecting and never looked back. Of course my tolerance went sky high and I was soon shooting almost gram shots multiple times a day. (Most of the Heroin where I'm from has fentanyl in it.)

But anyways, one night I just randomly told myself i was done living that lifestyle. I drove from N.C. to Florida that night. I had never withdrawaled before that so I didn't know what to expect. I always had money for more dope. I just knew my Dad lived in Florida and would help me. I drove through the night and did my last dose that morning when I crossed the Florida line. I got to my Dads about 2 hours later and spent the day fishing. I slept good that night from pure exhaustion but the next morning was hell for me. Extreme chills, fever, absolutely no appetite or energy. I was so sleepy but my body and muscles refused to let me sleep. Day 2 was even worse. I ended up going to the local E.R. Just to get a suboxone. That helped a little bit but not much. I smoked some Marijuana and that helped also. Each day got a bit easier after that.

It's now been 2 weeks and 3 days since I've last used Heroin \ Fentanyl. My appetite and sex drive has started coming back. I'm starting to sleep better at night now without as much restlessness. But I still have hardly no energy during the day and my muscles randomly get restlessness to the point where I'll daydream about shooting up. I feel like my brain isn't producing any dopamine at all either. I'm just miserable still.

I took half a suboxone 2 days ago and felt amazing the entire day. I want to feel like that while sober. My dad has agreed to let me live here with him so I can get on my feet and stay clean. I still smoke Marijuana daily to help me. But can anyone help me by telling me how long it's going to take to get back feeling good and healthy? Should I go to a Suboxone clinic to help with the cravings? Or should I keep taking it day by day and just ride it out sober? Maybe I can keep a few suboxones just for the really rough days? I just want my life back and will do anything it takes to feel normal again. I want to get in my car and drive back to N.C. So bad but I know I'll just end up where I started or even dead. Please don't tell me what I want to here. Tell me what I NEED to hear. I don't know any connects here in Florida which is good. My dad is the one giving marijuana to me to help me cope. I just REALLY NEED advice from an experienced addict. Thanks
 
Lack od energy was always most intense WD effects in my case and lasted longer than any other effect. I tried DXM (it's not an opiate but partially binds to opiate rexeptors) and it helped tremendously. You can start with 50mgs in morning and you will see if it's enough or you need to redose later or you can even lower the dose next day. Don't take it longer than 1 week.
 
Vinnie77 said:
Lack od energy was always most intense WD effects in my case and lasted longer than any other effect. I tried DXM (it's not an opiate but partially binds to opiate rexeptors) and it helped tremendously. You can start with 50mgs in morning and you will see if it's enough or you need to redose later or you can even lower the dose next day. Don't take it longer than 1 week.
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hey thanks for the advice. I was thinking about trying to get into a methadone clinic tbh. I realize I don't really need to by this point. But I know for certain it'll take most of the cravings and the lingering WD away. Suboxone or Subutex just don't quite get it for me. If I do get into a methadone clinic,it will definitely be just a short term thing and then I'll taper down and off it. what's your thought on that?
 
No. I wouldn't recommend it all. Straight from H to methadone OK, but you are 2 weeks and 4 days clean so WD is almost gone. DXM should help you with lack of energy and cravings but cravings will be back within few days when you stop taking DXM, but less intense than before. It's difficult to stop them. Just try to be busy all day long and smoke some heavy indica strain in evening so you will get asleep easily and won't think about needle.
 
I agree ,if you initially roll a replacement therapy, I would certainly go for suboxone. Its much nicer to slip off then methadone. In fact heroine and fentanyl are a hop skip and a jump from physically getting off methadone imho. You say you felt great on the suboxone. Id roll there, look to the work you may need to take on mentally to win this in the end. Methadone is always an option, but keep that in your hand for now?
 
Another thing you have, is the absolute certainty that you will have to go through this.. i know its a fucking bitch.. but there are no free passes out. The earlier you can make it out the better, just have to do the amazing and make it.......... what plan can you come up that will reault in your goals being met.
 
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Yeah I agree Methadone is a terrible idea especially considering the fact you are through the acute phase of the withdraw. I'd say they will last a couple months at least and can be super shitty. They can consist of anhedonia, anxiety, insomnia, depression, restless legs syndrome, cravings and a whole bunch of other stuff. At times people allow this to bring them back to revukat use. But if you fight it off it eventually does go away. Be strong and proud if yourself okay.
 
I got off a 5 year oxy habit using Kratom that I heard about here . It’s cheap and it works, gives energy, mood boost and stops the restlessness. It tastes like shit, I mix a few grams with orange juice or iced tea . Can get it online or at some gas stations and it’s legal .
 
It gives a somewhat opiate feeling but dont expect that full warm happy opiate feeling , it gets you almost there .. If you try to take too much you will throw up so don’t push it, start with small doses just to feel normal .
 
Please don’t go to methadone Now! It is the last stop on the train , and not a very nice part of Town. It is called Liquid handcuffs for a reason! A Full agnostic will not help you now after two weeks and 5 days clean!, yes you will feel better, just a legal opiate 🤬
stay with the weed , I really like Gabipentin as well 300-600mg split through day
exercise will help aLot, I know it is Hot in Fla now and a shit load of Covid, but if you can get into the water that’s nice as well
 
neversickanymore said:
I agree ,if you initially roll a replacement therapy, I would certainly go for suboxone. Its much nicer to slip off then methadone. In fact heroine and fentanyl are a hop skip and a jump from physically getting off methadone imho. You say you felt great on the suboxone. Id roll there, look to the work you may need to take on mentally to win this in the end. Methadone is always an option, but keep that in your hand for now?
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Thanks for the advice! It means a lot to me. Sorry If this is long. I sorta just want to vent right now. But Ive come to realize I really want to have some form of opiate in me. At least for the next two to three months. Whether it's suboxone, subutex, methadone....I just love opiates and I'm not quite ready to live without em. Of course I wanna move on and be a normal guy. But I'm stuck in this world now that not many people ever see. Much less understand. But come to think of it, suboxone was the gateway drug to Heroin for me. I was pulling a 16 month bid on the yard because of my Crack Cocaine addiction I had when i was 18. Fresh outta high school , LOL. But I was then introduced to suboxone in there. Id snort just one little MG and be high nodding off and throwing up for two days. I started having money sent to all my connects accounts constantly for more suboxone and I ended up leaving prison with a 3 strip a day habit. It helped my time go by and took a lot of stress off me. I never cared for opiates before that because they would make me incredibly nauseous. But I fell in love with them in there. Anyways I'm out on parole now and can't find no strips. But Heroin was literally all around me. And superrr cheap. I dabbled with it a lil bit. But I got into a suboxone clinic real quick. I couldn't afford it after a few weeks so they threw me out. I started using H more and more and quickly began to like that more than subs. I violated parole before I could get extremely addicted. I WD a lil bit for a few days but nothing too bad. I pulled another 6 months but since I've been out, I haven't slowed down once. Jesus could come back and id still be trying to run the streets and shoot dope 100 mph. I've spiraled into an abyss I can't find my way out of now. No one told me it would be like this. I don't care for any other drug besides opiates now. I haven't used any since I took that half sub days ago. I banged a lil ice last night just cause I wanted to get high without having to relapse on H. And to take my mind off it. (I enjoy tweakin every once in a while. Not something I could do everyday though). I'm also withdrawing off of Paxil\Paroxatine and that shit is horrible too. I just feel shitty man. I'm ready to have my life back. I realize I've made it farther than what a lot of H addicts would have done by now. But fuckkkk I'm so exhausted man. I'm tired of feeling like shit. If I'm being honest, I have my mind pretty much set on methadone. At least I won't be breaking the law or won't end up overdosed some where. The only problem I'll probably have is the cost and fees. I have united healthcare insurance and most clinics don't accept it for some very strange reason. My dad definitely isn't gonna support me on that lol. He had a bad Crack addiction when I was little but cleaned himself up. He don't understand the feeling of physical withdrawal. Much less mental and physical combined. He's all for smoking a fat doobie and drinking a few beers but anything else, hell no. FUCK THAT. I need some maintenance.
 
It will take you tree months for the initial parts of Post Acute Withdrawal Syndrome to dissipate. Your mind will begin to clear. Your cravings will decrease. Your drug dreams will stop. Your pain level will return to normal.

Speaking as someone who has went through cessation of opioid use several times, the first three months are key. I am currently in month 4 and I feel like I am at baseline. I am on Suboxone, and although some people, particularly NA fundamentalists believe that is not true sobriety, it is for me. I do not take opioids anymore and it has helped me greatly.

However... I am currently in the state where my emotions are raw, and I am learning how to cope with them without resorting to illicit drug use.

I wish you a full recovery. Godspeed.
 
Vinnie77 said:
Lack od energy was always most intense WD effects in my case and lasted longer than any other effect. I tried DXM (it's not an opiate but partially binds to opiate rexeptors) and it helped tremendously. You can start with 50mgs in morning and you will see if it's enough or you need to redose later or you can even lower the dose next day. Don't take it longer than 1 week.
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actually it doesnt bind to any opoid receptors, even though it technically is a opoid, look it up dude
 
I know it doesn't seem like it now but you will return to normal. Lack of energy and depression are hard to take but you in early recovery you just have to roll with it. It's your choice but you are a few weeks in try just riding it out you will get better. I quit 13-year habit and i thought I could not live without heroin. I was at a point of going the maintenance route but thought I don't want to be dependant on that I wanted to be free from any dependence. I rode it out and a year later I feel great maintenance works for some and it is an important tool for people to stabilize and get back to normal. But think hard how you want to go your pain now will not last.
 
SnafuInTheVoid said:
I used to think heroin permanently changed my definition of what it means to feel good/happy.

Complete bullshit.

It takes awhile, but you will regain your soul. Trust me.
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At first, I also thought it had changed me permanently. I thought I will never be happy or myself without opium it is complete bullshit. A year later I feel all the emotions I did on herion but my body feels lighter. The cravings still come but the intensity of them has lowered a lot. That's why I say try to ride it out it don't seem like it at first but you do return to normality a stronger person mentally because you been to hell and back.
 
Good morning, waiting to Hit my 7:30 AM meeting , and wanted to reach out and see how you are doing? Understand you are Not Happy with the way you Feel now, ,but it is the Price of Admission to an Addiction free life on the other side!! We have all done this to ourselves, and are people who have a genetic disposition to addiction (Only my opinion) so we trigger a switch with certain substances that may be illegal and harmful ( most addictive behavior does not work out well, it is a disease of MORE so Never Happy with what we have)
Methadone works very well and is Considered the Gold standard of opiate use disorder drugs. Methadone was started in the Last great opiate epidemic in the 70s, and Govt was tired of spending So much $$ on Locking up drug addicts.
You are so young and will not be a Lifer on it, so stay strong. Have you tried any Gabipentin
 
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