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Opioids Will i withdrawl?

iRush

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ok so i used oxycodone for about 3 months, started off about 3 times a week 20mg a day, and worked my way up to everyday,and an average of 60mg a day, i started withdrawling, had almost every symptom.. no energy, body pain and insomnia were the worst, its day 4 now of no oxy, im wondering if i wait about another 4 days, and then start using oxycodone only 1-2 times a week at 20-40mg dose, will i experience withdrawls again or no?
 
You will make the withdrawls much, much worse and way longer. What you had there is some pretty heavy opiate use. If I was you Id give it AT LEAST 3-4 months since you felt totally back to normal (no more withdrawl) before you even think about using opiates again. And also be aware thats a real addict level dosing, the addictive cycle changes you. Where as it took weeks to slip into an addiction the first go around, itll take a day or two the second time around.

My advice would be find a way to not use opiates at all, at least for a good long time yet. If your after pain management there are better ways than 20 mg oxy a day.
 
well its definatly not heavy opiate use, i khave friends that do almost 300mg oxy a day, and the only time it was 60mg a day was for 10 days straight because i had access to cheap oxy, but you really think if i wait a couple more days and then use oxy once a week ill feel withdrawl the next day.... at once a week
 
You will make the withdrawls much, much worse and way longer. What you had there is some pretty heavy opiate use. If I was you Id give it AT LEAST 3-4 months since you felt totally back to normal (no more withdrawl) before you even think about using opiates again. And also be aware thats a real addict level dosing, the addictive cycle changes you. Where as it took weeks to slip into an addiction the first go around, itll take a day or two the second time around.

My advice would be find a way to not use opiates at all, at least for a good long time yet. If your after pain management there are better ways than 20 mg oxy a day.

^ +1

I had a similar experience to the OP and remember those initial stages of thinking during and after my first withdrawal experience. In my case, I was unable to use after my first three month oxycodone habit without quickly raising my tolerance within a shorter period of time. It was insane how each 'relapse' had a quicker onset and larger overall tolerance build up, just as was told to me by members of Bluelight when I had asked a similar question to the OP.

Of course, I didn't believe it and was convinced I could do it differently. Didn't work out as I had hoped haha. I did, however, need to learn this on my own.

What caused the progression in my case was the very mild yet progressive 'withdrawal' I would feel after only one or two days of using oxycodone. It may have been that I didn't experience any withdrawal at all, but only the dysphoria of not being as comfortably high as I was the day before when I used.

In my case, this eventually led to everyday use and a significantly higher (and more expensive) habit.

For what it's worth, I agree with faceplant's advice.
 
Ok guys i had to pop in and let u know what i just found for withdrawals: BEE POLLEN, use the granuals cuz the capsules contain ginseng which will make u jittery. I have been having severe acute withdrawals for a week until i was told about the bee pollen and no shit it works. Look it up, theres a site called TheHoneyBees or something. Its for opiate withdrawals. Spread the wordm i want every addict trying to get clean to know about this and im pissed that more doctors arent turning patients onto this
 
Ok guys i had to pop in and let u know what i just found for withdrawals: BEE POLLEN, use the granuals cuz the capsules contain ginseng which will make u jittery. I have been having severe acute withdrawals for a week until i was told about the bee pollen and no shit it works. Look it up, theres a site called TheHoneyBees or something. Its for opiate withdrawals. Spread the wordm i want every addict trying to get clean to know about this and im pissed that more doctors arent turning patients onto this

wait so its a prescription?, no way i can get it then... unless it was at a local drug store for anyone to buy.. considering that im only 17 and my parents don't know about my addiction.
 
with 40mgs of Oxycodone per day, I would try to taper a little bit.

maybe with a stronger dose in the early morning and then samller dose late evening around 6:00pm for cravings

at the moment i am ingesting 20 to 25mgs of methadone per 24hrs but my substance i would think last longer than OC.

maybe try 25mgs of Oxy in the morning and then 15mgs after.

would you think that you can even feel that OP? Or do you think that would be a waste ?

let me know I am interested

and also what is ROA (Route Of Administration)

sl1p609
 
with 40mgs of Oxycodone per day, I would try to taper a little bit.

maybe with a stronger dose in the early morning and then samller dose late evening around 6:00pm for cravings

at the moment i am ingesting 20 to 25mgs of methadone per 24hrs but my substance i would think last longer than OC.

maybe try 25mgs of Oxy in the morning and then 15mgs after.

would you think that you can even feel that OP? Or do you think that would be a waste ?

let me know I am interested

and also what is ROA (Route Of Administration)

sl1p609
what do u mean can i feel OP?
ROA is snorting, and i might just buy a bottle of 8mg codein for 9$ to help withdrawl
 
I feel you man, but try to be careful. Hopefully you will be fine tomorrow and won't feel the need to use again. If you do, I would really recommend considering if maybe it was too soon to start back up again.

I personally found it so hard not use use every day once I experienced a dependence. Even if I wasn't sick, I really felt like I needed it spiritually so that I could enjoy stuff like I did before.

What was interesting for me was how large a dose I needed within a few days to get back to where I was when I stopped. The dangerous thing was that although my physical tolerance dropped almost to baseline, my euphoric tolerance remained much closer to where it was when I had stopped. This meant that I initially had to be in that buffer zone between a nod and an overdose if I wanted to get a satisfying high. Of course, this only increased over time and thinned that zone to a fine line.

But that's not really what opiods do by themselves....they do it when used habitually in a progressive manner.

The bright side is that if you wait long enough, you will once again be able to enjoy shit without em. Easy to forget this though when it's happening.

My bad, I just saw your last post and see that you only half 40mg left and are more concerned with withdrawal. Me personally if I wanted to stop for the moment, I would save that 40mg until you need it. And I would not use all at once; maybe I would do as little as possible to be only mildly uncomfortable. But if you went 4 days already without it, I would imagine that the worst part is over, despite taking 40mg today. I usually either used again before withdrawal was worse, or kicked it completely, so I can't say how that would effect things from experience.

If you look around, there is a ton of great info on non-opiod withdrawal aids on this site.



He meant 'original poster' when he asked if you could feel that dose.

Let us know how tomorrow goes or pm me if you want.
 
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You need to take a longer break if you are planning on going back to using 1-2 days a week without withdrawing. I was getting high 3-4 days a week, and when I had to stop for drug tests I would only use on the weekend. However, I would get sick wed, thurs, and fri, then use during the weekend, and this cycle continued. Even since then I have used in a similar manner (5 days off then using every 3-4 days), and the withdrawals would come back if I don't take a long enough break before starting back up again.

I recommend a 2 week break, but if you can't hold off that long (then you likely won't be able to have the self control to keep it to 2x a week anyway) then give it at least 10 days before going back to using. When you do, then 2 days max per week is the most you can get away with probably. Some people space it out 3 days a week and think that they are fine (not dependent), but in reality they are just using often enough to keep the withdrawals at bay, and if they were to go more than 3-4 days without using, they would get sick.
 
IME, tolerance never goes away. One use and your pretty much back to your old dosing habits
 
While I can't say 100% that you will go through withdrawal again, I will add in my situation since i've been hooked on opiates +/- 5 years.

I had a stint of opiate abuse where I was pretty bad on opana 40's (not too far off from OC80's) and I had taken the time to get clean and I felt great. I had a month clean almost exactly. I did a 2 day binge of 6 opana 40's each day. I did 3 throughout the day to keep a buzz, and 3 at night after work so that I could nod out and enjoy a full rush. 3rd day I woke up with withdrawals almost as bad as if I was still hooked.
 
No, not a script. Find it at an all natural food store- bee pollen granuals w/out ginseng. I am now on day 10 but my horrible symptoms have subsided since using this and im able to get thru the day. Still not in the light, but im def out of the dark and i know it is thnx to the bee pollen.
 
I find it with most people that it's usually 2-3 days in a row with opiates/oids that get you sick again. Not to sound like a dickhead but hey maybe you getting through this why not stop? You're ahead of the game and trust me, you're going to keep doing it and doing and doing it until you're in an ugly situation you never could have imagined. I have my own demons and all but seriously, with opie's once you start getting sick is when you are an addict. You're currently an addict. some people get smart and stop then and there others do something like this make justifications for themselves like can i do this or that ( im not calling you out in anyway or talking down to you, im trying to help you so if something sounds mean, thats not my intention here.) Seriously, you're at the point of both addiction and dependence. If you dont stop now its just going to keep gong and going and going until you Od, end up in jail or dead and feel dead inside. i hate sayign that because rehabs say it constantly but it's the truth and we're not even talking about the mental and psyical damage doing drugs does to you. I'm telling you if you got out somewhat easy take it as a blessing and stop using. If you ask anyone on here they are going to tell you the same thing that im about too, Each time you try to stop it gets harder and the withdrawls are stronger and worse. You're tolorance is just going to keep eventually raising. Another thing you saying you're habit isnt that bad compared to your friends just because they are at 300mgs and you are not does NOT MEAN YOU ARE NOT AN ADDICT. Don't let other people's shit fuck with you. Not to sound mean you're clearly dependant and addicted, you just got over being sick and are trying to do more opiates/oids, doesnt it sound like you have a problem? If you go back you're sooner or later going to end up at an everyday habit again. Do whatever you want, but im comming from a Harm reduction stand point and from a personal spot where if i can help someone not end up going through what alot of us on here have, opiate/oid addiction leads to ugly places man both psysical and mentally and the point is you're harming yourself and your potential future. Shit gets ugly from opiates man. Do yourself a favor and cut them now while it's not as hard. I hope this helped, if you need help with talking or addiction questions or treatment programs or whatever Pm me, if not do your thing and you'll see down the line that you'll wish you would have let it go now. Also the darkside on bluelight is a good place to talk about addiction if you nneed it.

Be safe and remember tolorance dropps even after a couple days sometimes for some people, don't do too much and fall out on us if you decide too, which it seems like youre going to end up doing . I'm sorry to ruin your hopes of being able to do it recreationally but once you become dependant and addicted you can no longer recreationally use opiates/oids. It's game over once you over do it and get sick. Sorry to sound like your dad or something but if im able to stop one person from going through this hell im going to try.
-B
 
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Ud be the dummest mo-fo in the world if u dont listen to what New/Army just posted! You WILL lose everything, your habit IS just as bad as people who do more than you, and you ARE going to make things uncomprehensibley worse fir yourself if u dont get off it all NOW
 
and this is the third time i've heard about bee pollen, is their any scientific data to prove this, not saying i don't believe you but maby it's a placebo thing for you or maybe it really does work. If it definitely does im going to add it to my wd kit when i decide to completely cut out suboxone. Anyone else have experiences or data about this working? Let me know because if it's as effective as this poster is saying and the person seems very certain about it ( i've saw in a couple posts over the last couple days ) it could possibly help out alot of people during Wd's..

Be safe and Bee pollen who woulda guessed, the thought of that never even crossed my mind,
-B
 
Ud be the dummest mo-fo in the world if u dont listen to what New/Army just posted! You WILL lose everything, your habit IS just as bad as people who do more than you, and you ARE going to make things uncomprehensibley worse fir yourself if u dont get off it all NOW

Thanks for backing me. I hate that these situations are over the internet, i have a feeling like if all of us were talking to this person in public and told them some war stories mabye it'd be more effective, Maybe... most likely not but sometimes it may stop them i hate seeing this happen to kids all the time and it's like fuck man, you don't understand where it's going to take you. I was one of those i'll never do drugs kids my brother died from drugs i'll never do them. I tried percocets once and it was game over. I had a person on here Pm one night telling me almost what i told him/her just in another way. when i first started talking about doing oxy, I never thought id end up in Abando's squating and laying around shoooting dope, but opiates will take you there. Poor kid has no idea what's in for him/her. I Hope we got through to the him/her. And They are going to say I'll never do heroin, or ill never use a needle. Give it time, Opiates/oids are Opiate/oids. Dope gets a bad rap because of bad movies but oxy is just as bad for you and leads right to H someone will snort it for a little while and relise the high sucks snorted if you're tolorant to opies then boom one right you only got 2 bags and a dollar and someones around with works and boom you get that rush and it's all downhill from there. I really hope we got through to him/her.

Be safe,
-B
 
LoL... its deffinitely NOT A PLECOBO EFFECT. I am still suffering withdrawals but this is effective. In fact, as helpful as it has been for me getting thru the dope sickness it has also helped my bestvfriend w her depression and my mom with her energy. I didnt even know about this a few days ago and now i cant stop talking about it so i asked a couple people to try it to tell me if MAYBE i am actually having a mental breakdown, but no, it really is working. I still hit a brick wall during the day so i take another dose of it to get thru
 
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