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Will i see a decent government before i die?

Perkins : Reborn said:
Greens only bothered with a leaflet featuring a bar chart that at first glance puts them in second place with the slogan "Only the Greens can stop Reform".

On closer inspection all it shows is that they were set to increase their vote share by 11% according to a poll in January, whereas Reform were due a 13% boost. Labour were shown as -21, which is a big loss but would still win the election.

Pretty disappointing that they'd stoop to something sensationalised and potentially misleading for those who pay it less scrutiny.
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The 'greens' are a waste of fuckin space. They, unfortunately, have no chance of stopping Reform.

Perhaps if Labour and other so called 'left wing' parties, weren't so impotent, Reform wouldn't have gained so much traction.
 
The Green Party leader is down the road just now (literally - as in the actual sense of literally). Making Facebook posts. With 'hundreds' of voters (looks more like forty).

They don't really have a base here, but sending their leader is either a confident or a desperate move.

Our Labour candidate was not Downing Street's choice. She's Greek, but has lived and worked here so long that she's Mancunian now.
 
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Perkins : Reborn said:
If you've never been to Gorton, it was the initial location for Shameless before they purpose built an equally grim set.
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Yeah, I've passed through. I think it's much the same as neighbouring or near by Reddish? Which I'm a lot more familiar with, due to my job.

Although some bright, 'upwardly mobile' young people I worked with in a previous job aspired to move to Reddish to buy their first home, I really didn't get it, when I became more familiar with the place.

I guess the SK postcode is a significant upgrade from a Rusholme or Longsight one. And property is so expensive for first time buyers these days, that even the best and brightest young people can only afford to buy a house in rough areas.

But as I saw during the Covid lockdown when all local residents were out queing for their vaccines, despite certain areas looking 'rough as toast' in large parts, the people living there were not.

Anyway, I've just seen on a Sky News article that Burnham has fully backed the Labour candidate. Although obviously he couldn't do anything else, if he didn't want to be seen as an obvious cunt of a self-centered careerist, only caring about his own progression.

It certainly does seem that he has ambitions, and that's not necessarily a fault.

But all this talk now is suddenly about how Burnham is a big personality and a huge name and all this kind of stuff. He's always seemed pretty dour and boring to me, in whatever I've seen of him, but I guess it's all relative.

He is doing a good job as mayor, and he probably knew that his attempt to stand for the vacated seat would be blocked, and this would probably go on to cause further issues for Starmer.

It's all a form of a game sometimes it seems to me. With many attempting to get to the top of their particular trees, but often the most surprising people actually make it - John Major over Michael Heseltine, Ed Miliband FFS. Theresa May, Liz Truss, Rishi Sunak, and now Starmer, perhaps the worst selection in recent memory.

British political parties seem to be drawn to selecting the people with the least charisma, on the whole. Perhaps they are seen as safe.

At this stage it seems like anything could happen in the Gorton seat. I've seen some polling interviews with even young Asian people saying they will vote Reform. Which strikes me as utterly bizarre that they'd vote for the anti-immigration party, when they probably aren't more than 1 or 2 generations away from being immigrants themselves, if not directly. It makes no sense.
 
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Reddish is paradise compared to West Gorton. West Gorton is one of the few areas I find intimidating after spending twelve years living in east Manchester.

Maybe a bit of dour and boring is what we need. We've had nearly thirty years of media savvy spivs. With the exception of Gordon Brown (not a success), Theresa May, who I often didn't agree with, but was at least sincere, and John Major, who I also wouldn't have agreed with, but seemed like a decent enough man.

Starmer started out that way, but soon changed his tune. At least we don't have a Trump. Yet. What would our equivalent be? Dyson? Branson?
 
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Perkins : Reborn said:
. At least we don't have a Trump. Yet. What would our equivalent be? Dyson? Branson?
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Nigel Farage?

He comes from a business background, has broad populist appeal, and him and Trump are politically close, as well as being personal friends or allies I believe. Farage is also pretty adept at coming across well on TV, and for being an engaging public speaker.

Of course Farage wasn't famous for his business activities AFAIK but there are a lot of other similarities between the two of them.
 
So he's charismatic for people who think getting the clap is charismatic.

I've just been singing 'Nigel Farage is a wanker' in a bass voice. I'm 5'8", so shouldn't have that voice. But I can-out-rumble your average 6'5" bloke.
 
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OK then, how about if Alan Sugar were to go into politics?

At least the BBC thought he was enough of the British equivalent of Trump, to build the British version of The Apprentice around him.

Sugar is probably too direct and honest to make it in politics though.

@Perkins : Reborn With regret, you're fired! :LOL:
 
Those businessmen who think we should run the country like a business are always shit. They dont know how to make fair deals - they just want everything their way.
 
A picture speaks 1,000 words.
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I've heard about this image, but this is the first time I've seen it.

Wonder if that was a hidden camera?

No-one with any self respect would allow themselves to be photographed wearing white Y-fronts and a T-shirt that accentuates your moobs...
 
Gay and happily married (if there's such a thing as a happy marriage) to a guy he's been with for decades.

Makes the Epstein connection all the weirder, because there's no evidence Epstein traded in boys.
 
The shit he allegedly leaked to Epstein. I'm anti- conspiracy theory, but there must have been something that brought him into his orbit and prompted such leaks that perhaps we don't know about. Tax?

EDIT: Looks like a lot of communication was during the financial crisis; essentially with Mandy as a tipster for Epstein.
 
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What makes me smile is how The Tory party & their Cult members are jumping all over this, like they have never had rotten MP's.

YET AGAIN "the system" we accept is shown up for what it is, I am just waiting for The Green Party to get caught out, it cannot be long till one of their lot is caught out for scamming cash to pay off Gay hookers & their Meth dealer (like a Tory MP) or taking cash from a Russian for asking questions (like Reform)

I become more of a hardcore anarchist as each day passes by.
 
"Let me ask you one question
Is your money that good?
Will it buy you forgiveness
Do you think that it could?
I think you will find
When your death takes its toll
All the money you made
Will never buy back your soul
And I hope that you die
And your death will come soon
I'll follow your casket
By the pale afternoon
And I'll watch while you're lowered
Down to your deathbed
And I'll stand over your grave
'Til I'm sure that you're dead"

Bob Dylan- Masters of War.
 
Zopiclone bandit said:
What makes me smile is how The Tory party & their Cult members are jumping all over this, like they have never had rotten MP's.

YET AGAIN "the system" we accept is shown up for what it is, I am just waiting for The Green Party to get caught out, it cannot be long till one of their lot is caught out for scamming cash to pay off Gay hookers & their Meth dealer (like a Tory MP) or taking cash from a Russian for asking questions (like Reform)

I become more of a hardcore anarchist as each day passes by.
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The Greens apparently had 'hundreds' of volunteers down my road, including their leader.

Witnessed it, and it was about forty.

They claimed that there were so many leaflets posted that they ran out of doors in one day. We have 74306 voters. Obviously there is more than one voter per a lot of households, but that's 297.2 leaflets per volunteer at 250 volunteers (which I doubt) across quite a wide constituency. Who apparently all made it back for the photoshoot.

Plus I received my leaflet two days prior. I don't dislike the Greens, but that's twice they've laid it on now.
 
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