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Will i see a decent government before i die?

Zopiclone bandit said:
The issue is Zack Polanski can say what he likes, his lot are just the flip-side of the coin to Farage or as I have heard said before "two cheeks of the same ass"

We will NEVER see anyone in Power who is good as anyone who wants that much Control over others is a sure sociopath & that isn't good.

In old Japan if a person in power behaved in a way that brought shame upon himself or his area he would be forced to cut out his own stomach in front of everyone then have their head chopped off, this kept most people who wanted power for their own reasons in check, just think about that for a moment before you say anything.
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There are some politicians who are in the field because of genuine convictions in their beliefs and wish to improve the state of the country and the individuals living in it. Not many for sure, but there does seem to be some.

I can't think of any current examples of any such people, apart from Jeremy Corbyn. And then going further back you had the likes of Tony Benn, a person with genuine convictions who was in the job for the right reasons. Even some conservatives have been decent genuine people, Ken Clarke for example was one such, it seemed to me. And Charles Kennedy, former Lib Dem leader, and one of only about 3 politicians who was not milking their "expenses" at all, unlike the other 99% taking the piss to such an extent, that one of them claimed for a duck house, on a little island, on a river or lake on his property. He got paid thousands for it too.

No wonder people distrust politicians as a general rule.
 
Bleaney said:
There are some politicians who are in the field because of genuine convictions in their beliefs and wish to improve the state of the country and the individuals living in it. Not many for sure, but there does seem to be some.
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So we both agree most people who take this position up DON'T have our mutual best interests as their #1 driving goal, yes their MAYBE a small few, let us say at the very best 15%. So the rest of the 85% are their to feed their own ego & get a easy job at the end of it.

Please tell me why I should put up with the 85% Bullshit?
Bleaney said:
unlike the other 99% taking the piss to such an extent, that one of them claimed for a duck house, on a little island, on a river or lake on his property. He got paid thousands for it too.
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I remember it, I have forgot the Tory MP's name but the Cunt tried to pass on the bill to The Tax Payer for his sexual services with Gay Male Sex Workers, I would have had that MP bummed to death by the Worlds biggest Dildo in the middle of London.

I have ZERO time for Corbyn, he went to East Germany for a Holiday with Diane Abbot & said The Old East German System was the Perfect way for The UK to go, I am sure the people of East Germany weren't crying with Joy when the wall came down ;)

One of the only people who had power I like is Benjamin Franklin, it takes a Man of Wisdom to say “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety"
 
@Bleaney

When you finished with that old trust-fund Heroin addicts book I highly suggest you read one of these 3 books.

1) Which IMHO is ESSENTIAL to every human on Earth to read, Robert Anton Wilson - Prometheus Rising (it can be d/l as a PDF from all over the internet, do the exercises in the book 100% & without question do the 6 months reading far-right websites etc then swap to Far-left / Communist material.)

2) Thinking, Fast and Slow - Psychologist Daniel Kahneman.

3) Brainwashing: The Science of thought control - Kathleen Taylor.
 
Zopiclone bandit said:
1) You believe in Total State Control over all aspects of our life?
2) You believe in Universal Basic Income?
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Course I don't. That's the last thing I want. Even Digital IDs are a step far too far, and I will do everything I can to resist and fight the fuckers on that one.

It sounds like a great idea to me! If they want any volunteers for the trial consider me in. I'd probably get more money than I do for working full time, and have complete freedom to do whatever I wish with my time. What's not to like?

I'll check out your book recommendations. I'm still enjoying Junky very much. I think the fact that it's so well written, I love his style, and that it's set some time ago, but doesn't seem at all dated, all helps. It must have been absolutely shocking to the censors back in the day, and probably caused a "moral outrage" type of stir, at the time, and was probably subject to many ban orders, IIRC? But now, having read or listened to many similar books, I think it's one of the best that I've read, in the 'drug memoirs' genre.

I'd like Stephen King to publish his own drug memoirs, as I'm sure that would be quite a read. There's a few books he was so coked up while writing them, that he couldn't remember having written them, I think, (IIRC)

His characterisation of the Jack Torrence character in The Shining was very deep and insightful about his motives for drinking, and his behaviour after drinking, and subsequent shame and remorse, and many think it was a kind of semi autobiographical account of King's own issues with alcohol.
 
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Zopiclone bandit said:
1) You believe in Total State Control over all aspects of our life?
2) You believe in Universal Basic Income?
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1) Most definitely not
2) Most definitely so.

Former is a no-brainer. Literally don’t know anybody on the Left who does so feels a bit strawmanny. I don’t doubt there are people who would want that but they are very much on the fringes.

UBI just makes so much sense in a world where AI and automation are taking an ever-bigger slice of viable work - and will only get more of an issue over time.

We simply do not need people to work full work weeks shuffling paper from one intray to another any more. Obviously trades are still booming - and should do for the foreseeable - but not everyone can be a plumber…

Just makes sense to, say, halve the work week and make up the difference with UBI.
 
Shambles said:
1) Most definitely not
2) Most definitely so.

Former is a no-brainer. Literally don’t know anybody on the Left who does so feels a bit strawmanny. I don’t doubt there are people who would want that but they are very much on the fringes.

UBI just makes so much sense in a world where AI and automation are taking an ever-bigger slice of viable work - and will only get more of an issue over time.

We simply do not need people to work full work weeks shuffling paper from one intray to another any more. Obviously trades are still booming - and should do for the foreseeable - but not everyone can be a plumber…

Just makes sense to, say, halve the work week and make up the difference with UBI.
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The only issue I have with UBI is it'll be based upon The Chinese Social Credit System & if you are being a free thinking Citizen, dare to drive a few miles in a car that uses petrol, eat a burger that's caused "Climate Change" it'll be no food or heating this month to give you a damn lesson. I am with you 100% about the way A.I. will destroy jobs & the workplace as we know it, the IMF & World Economic Forum aren't calling it "The Fourth Industrial Revolution" for no reason, Klaus Schwab released a book with the same title.

This makes for a scary read though & it's direct from The W.E.F. Website.

I used to like the books by Yuval Noah Harari till I read his speech from several W.E.F. meetings, he is as Mad as the rest of them & wants to put chips in our brain, I wish I was taking this from someone like David Icke but it's from his own mouth!!!!!!

U.B.I. will be like when you go sign on to get your Giro but the "contract conditions" will be horrific, it seems a good idea in theory but you know the cunts in power will twist it like everything & use it to keep us all under control.
 
Zopiclone bandit said:
The only issue I have with UBI is it'll be based upon The Chinese Social Credit System & if you are being a free thinking Citizen, dare to drive a few miles in a car that uses petrol, eat a burger that's caused "Climate Change" it'll be no food or heating this month to give you a damn lesson. I am with you 100% about the way A.I. will destroy jobs & the workplace as we know it, the IMF & World Economic Forum aren't calling it "The Fourth Industrial Revolution" for no reason, Klaus Schwab released a book with the same title.

This makes for a scary read though & it's direct from The W.E.F. Website.

I used to like the books by Yuval Noah Harari till I read his speech from several W.E.F. meetings, he is as Mad as the rest of them & wants to put chips in our brain, I wish I was taking this from someone like David Icke but it's from his own mouth!!!!!!

U.B.I. will be like when you go sign on to get your Giro but the "contract conditions" will be horrific, it seems a good idea in theory but you know the cunts in power will twist it like everything & use it to keep us all under control.
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I guess I’d like to think they’d honour the U aspect in that literally everyone gets it with zero qualifiers… but reality could for sure be different :\
 
@Zopiclone bandit so you are seeing something that is potentially some kind of utopia in a much more dystopian light?

I'm not saying you're wrong, but I'd never thought or heard that much about the UBI, other than just a summary of the concept, and the main reasons why, due to increasing use of robots and AI etc. But now you mention it, It does seem likely that there will be at least some minimal conditions, probably such as keeping a clean police record, also maybe paying any taxes in full and on time etc. I could definitely see that happening, and would not be surprised.

Hopefully that will be all, and there wouldn't be excessive monitoring of bank accounts etc, although they may be looking out for tax frauds, which is coming in anyway from the sounds of it. The government is loosing billions in tax evasion and avoidance, I don't know why they don't just tax the big companies a bit more. If we're anything like America their hugest corporations only pay something like 2% tax on their profits, due to clever accounting and completely legally using all the tax breaks available to them.

Meanwhile the UK govt will probably be chasing down some builder for a couple of grands work he's done off the books or something, and many more examples like that.
 
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5. THE DUNGEONS, DEATH AND TAXES PARTY (GREAT BRITAIN)

The Dungeons, Death and Taxes Party has a hard enough time keeping its own name straight. While the way you see it here is how it's officially listed on the BBC website, the party's two candidates in 2005's United Kingdom General Election, Brent Harris of Edinburgh East and Damien Fleck from York, ran as members of the "Death, Dungeons and Taxes Party."

The party's name (its registered address is popular tourist spot the London Dungeons) is as draconian as it sounds. The Dungeons, Death and Taxes Party's manifesto involves a pledge to invade and annex France, spike tax rates up to 90 percent, and reintroduce hanging, but "only for minor offences, such as writing graffiti and dropping litter." Should the Dungeons, Death and Taxes Party seize power, major offenses like murder and "those guilty of improper use of mobile text abbreviations" will get punished by disembowelment.
 
Bleaney said:
@Zopiclone bandit so you are seeing something that is potentially some kind of utopia in a much more dystopian light?
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The Chinese social credit system is a national program to rank the trustworthiness of businesses, individuals, and government organizations based on their compliance with laws and regulations, and other behaviors. It uses a unified record system that tracks a wide range of activities, from financial habits to online behavior and social conduct, to create a score. High scores can lead to rewards and privileges, while low scores can result in penalties like restricted access to credit, travel, or other services.

How it works
  • Data collection: The system collects data from various sources, including government and financial institutions, and monitors online activity and behavior through surveillance technologies.

  • Scoring and ranking: It rates trustworthiness and compliance based on this data.

  • Consequences:
    • Positive consequences: A high score can result in benefits like access to special services, easier business opportunities, and even discounts for public services.

    • Negative consequences: A low score can lead to penalties such as being blacklisted, difficulty accessing credit, travel restrictions, and other regulatory problems.
Goals and purpose
    • To regulate social behavior and encourage trustworthy actions like paying bills on time and following the law.
    • To ensure individuals and organizations are held accountable for their actions.
    • The government aims to create a system where "keeping trust is glorious and breaking trust is disgraceful".
 
@Bleaney

You know Brave New World that Huxley wrote was a kind of manifesto for the future? Huxley was a massive fan of Eugenics & he was also a fan of transhumanism among several other nasty things.

So many people read that book from a "Left" viewpoint, it's no shock Mr Savage kills himself, when you know what Huxley was really about & then read his work again it's some scary stuff.
 
"The Law waits for you to stumble on a mode of being, a soul different from the FDA-approved purple-stamped standard dead meat - & as soon as you begin to act in harmony with nature the Law garottes & strangles you - so don't play the blessed liberal middleclass martyr - accept the fact that you're a criminal & be prepared to act like one." - Hakim Bey.

"Ten minutes in a video store should convince any impartial observer that we live in a police state of consciousness, far more pervasive than the Nazis". - Hakim Bey.

"Those who understand history are condemned to watch other idiots repeat it." - Hakim Bey
 
Zopiclone bandit said:
@Bleaney

You know Brave New World that Huxley wrote was a kind of manifesto for the future? Huxley was a massive fan of Eugenics & he was also a fan of transhumanism among several other nasty things.

So many people read that book from a "Left" viewpoint, it's no shock Mr Savage kills himself, when you know what Huxley was really about & then read his work again it's some scary stuff.
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Source? I did search "huxley eugenics transhumanism" and it just gives this Julian guy. I just figured you could have been lied to by nazis because flipping over and abusing counter-culture for their own purposes is kinda their go-to trick and checked it myself. Just expecting regular totalitarist practices, because we live in pseudo-civilization that is pushing it all around, you know...

They did it with Karl Poppers paradox of tolerance comic too...
 
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