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Why? Why use substances?

Shrooms00087 said:
I didn't mean to be absolute about it. But generally I'd take an evening with a druggy over a bleached church-goer any day.
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Most people don't fit either criteria you mention. I certainly didn't have a "bleached" church goer in mind as an alternative. People defined by things other than drugs was what I was suggesting - like erm fishing or climbing or gardening or sports or gliding or art or martial arts or clowns or potholers, people who are passionate about what they do but not dogmatic would be pleasant enough company.
 
We're just going to be talking in circles, heh. You're just defining other qualities in the same way I was addressing drug use/culture and it's opposite in speaking with the topic. It seems like you take my examples not as vague descriptions but 'dogmatic' beliefs that have no leeway and you counter with vague attributes. Thus we end in talking in circles.
 
We can attain new ideas and concepts, pleasures and pains from drugs. Much like travelling to another country. Travelling to another reality is just alot easier and cheaper :)
 
Different strokes for different folks..... I started when I was 16, coke was my first drug. One time doing coke and then I tried meth. And then I tried E. And then I did Shrooms. Then various pills after that. And no, before my first time I NEVER smoked weed or smoked cigarettes even. I legitimately like drugs. Sometimes I do take them when I'm mad or upset. Mostly I take them for the fun of it. It's fun to get super fucked up with your friends and go on weird adventures or do weird things that most people never do. You experience a whole nother side of life that a lot of people don't. For instance, I have a friend who legitimately hand built a big ass teepee out sticks and mud and rocks. theres a firepit. Its hidden in the middle of a wooden area of public land. through one clearing in the trees you can see a major freeway. Through the other clearing you can see an AMPM. LOL we go out there and get shitty all the time. It's fucking awesome.
 
The eternal question. Shit I can give you more "whys," I suppose, than I can shake a stick at. Sadly, at the top of my list is because physically, I need to. If I quit my Rx painkillers cold turkey, I'd be hurtin. I have managed to keep my use at a steady level, as opposed to escalating to 30/day, a mistake I never want to have to repeat again, and haven't, but I don't bullshit myself. I have to have 3 a day, or if not to stay well, due to the pain that it's prescribed for. Meth...same deal, if I don't use, I'm pretty freaken useless for anything but sleep and I'm sure as hell not what one would call alert at work. Then theres the ADD factor, it's great for allowing me to focus, otherwise I don't sit and read/write long periods of time. Last, I've always tended toward living in my head, as my fantasies since I was old enough to remember have ALWAYS been way more preferable than the horrors of the "real" world, or at least 100 times more stimulating to be sure.
 
What the hell else are ya gonna do?
Good eating & plenty of exercise make me long for alternate reality
 
Sheer utility and convenience are ultimately what 'sell it' for me. I'm not aware of a more easily accessible, effective, and/or reliable means to achieve [insert preferred mental state] than psychoactive drugs. As for why I would prefer to be in one particular state rather than another...I guess that's a different topic, really.

As many have already suggested, one can also cite everyday boredom as a handy explanation for the lion's share of recreational drug use. My money is on a combination of this and the other reasons mentioned above. Either you're using for an explicit purpose, or you're using to get high - or both. I suppose there exists a fractional minority who could legitimately claim that their sole reason for drug use is 'spiritual' in nature, but I seriously doubt that humanity's longstanding preoccupation with these substances could be easily explained along those lines, despite much effort on the part McKenna, Wasson, et al. to convince me otherwise.
 
it was something to do which was fun. at the time i justified it with it as an enhancement to life. i stopped shortly after it became an escape.
 
"Substance" is too large of a concept. Let me split it to give elements of an answer to this thread : Medical tool for experimental psychiatry, Nootropics, Entheogens or Hedonism. Period.
 
I like salt on my chips and pepper sauce on my steak. I enjoy them both this way but sometimes I like to mix it up and go with mashed potato and a seafood béarnaise sauce. I do drugs when I want to enhance life of give it a surprising twist. And because electronic music is rubbish sober.

When it is no longer enjoyable I don't see a point in continuing to use any drug to be honest.
 
Busty St Clare said:
I like salt on my chips and pepper sauce on my steak. I enjoy them both this way but sometimes I like to mix it up and go with mashed potato and a seafood béarnaise sauce. I do drugs when I want to enhance life of give it a surprising twist. And because electronic music is rubbish sober.

When it is no longer enjoyable I don't see a point in continuing to use any drug to be honest.
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Wise words, wise words but some electronic music is good and even makes me feel I am high when blasting out my car speakers.
 
Busty St Clare said:
I like salt on my chips and pepper sauce on my steak. I enjoy them both this way but sometimes I like to mix it up and go with mashed potato and a seafood béarnaise sauce. I do drugs when I want to enhance life of give it a surprising twist. And because electronic music is rubbish sober.

When it is no longer enjoyable I don't see a point in continuing to use any drug to be honest.
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Best description so far
 
for me it's about curiosity, exploring and learning. maybe pretty much the same as going somewhere you haven't been before.
you should do this at least once a year, says the dalai lama. :-)
and it's a little bit like freddy sang: "i want to break free".
 
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