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Why should/shouldn't I take drugs?

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acidrhymer

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I recently had a debate with a friend about drug use and its effects on people and society after telling him about a recent acid experience I had. Basically, his position was "I just want more out of my life, so in the end its not worth it" and "plenty of people can live without drugs, so why do the small percentage need to?"
I applaud him for having his own opinion and his sobriety, although my mind is unsettled.

What is the real point of taking drugs, whether it be alcohol or acid? I know why I drop acid and drink beer; so I can have a good time with friends and to see the world a little differently from time to time. I take drugs to break away from the grips of society to, in a sense, go on vacation and free my mind of the bad day I had or celebrate the promotion I just got. I look at my drug use as a personal choice, not to deal with problems, but to see them in a different light. I know the dangers and risks just as I know the dangers of driving or being struck by lightning.

Even though it is his personal opinion, "not worth it in the end," I have difficulties understanding why he can't accept that there are drug users who aren't addicts and who lead fulfilling lives. He says, "plenty of others who don't use."

He goes on saying how he knows of all these people who at one point were in a gang dealing drugs or had their lives ruined because of drug use. I, for one know that there are responsible drug users who fall into this category of discrimination (myself) who shouldn't be there. On the outside looking in, it may seem like the drugs have made me lazy or contempt but on the inside it's because of a personal choice to be lazy and contempt.

Why shouldn't I take drugs? Well this is easy. I'm uneducated on the matter, propaganda, it's a health risk, I've seen too many lives get f*cked up etc. I don't understand the disconnect between the why's and why nots. That is why I'm here. To pick your brains on this issue.
 
Its an escape.

Eventually being around drugs you're morely likely to run into trouble whether be with addiction or legal/criminal issues.

And a lot of drugs are physically addictive. We talk about how cigeretts are addictive but then turn a blind eye in regards to how addictive alcohol is... its funny how accepted (and some would say promoted) alcohol consumption is within our culture... especially considering how it does nothing positive for the body.

Society is fucked up and full of contradictions... I'll never understand.
 
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nooneanymore said:
Its an escape.
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Basically, yeah. I mean, without beating around the bush, yeah... it's an escape.

I'm sure that psychedelics can be used to open one's mind and so on, but for most of us here, if we're honest with ourselves, I think we can all agree that we use drugs to escape reality for a little while, to put our minds somewhere else. And to be perfectly honest, I don't feel at all bad about it.

It's true that life can be pretty awesome and pretty amazing without using drugs; maybe you have a job that you really like doing and you wake up looking forward to it, and maybe you feel accomplished in all of your endeavors, your little projects and whatever, and maybe you have a great family, and everything's going well for you and you're perfectly content with where you are and how you're doing.

Or maybe you're like most the rest of us who work a job they dislike, very few hopeful prospects for the future, your family life isn't the very best, and you just sort of go through the day-to-day motions, just muddling by. If that's the case, then maybe after getting home from work you break out a fat sack of dope and blow down a couple of lines to sort of unwind and forget about things for a little while. (shrugs) It's life, man, and we're all swimming in it...
 
Reasons you should:
Lower stress
Be a more fun, laid-back person
Supplement a mental or physical handicap you have
Enhance your life in a positive way.

Reasons you shouldn't:
Expensive
Constantly being in need of something
Socially unacceptable as you get older
Have a medical issue that makes a drug harmful or life-threaning
 
Yeah, it's an escape BUT we all need an "escape" be it playing sports, watching TV, reading, studying, having sex. We DO need some sort of outlet, a way of forgetting about our troubles for a while and just relax, let ourselves go. So, if your escape are drugs, you're going to have to pay for it with quality of life, specially when you grow old. If your escape is having casual sex with strangers you might pay for it getting a VD of two, which ultimately could kill you faster and uglier than drugs. You see my point right?
Now, I have been thinking about my own drug use. Lately I have became a very fit person and I found a great "escape" in sports, this lead me to try and reach my full potential and I can see how drugs affect my body more directly. I would have to say that the quality of life of a drug abuser is a lot worse than the quality of life of a non user. You will not only live less years if you use drugs, but you will live those years worse and not to the fullest. I chose drugs anyway, I like them and I'm ready to pay the price. But who can be sure that laying on their deathbed choking on your own bodily fluids because your lungs are full of water won't be sorry about snorting so much crap?
 
I would argue that working a 9 to 5 job, having a "secure" future, basically just being another tool in the system, is not worth it in the end.


We're all going to the same place when we die, whether you believe in the afterlife or not. We are going to be judged by our actions, and you're going to have to justify all the things you've done in your life. Even if it is just to yourself, you're going to have to take a look back and think if YOUR life was "worth it" or not.


I know I can justify my actions. From my drug use, to my personal philosophy, to my "religious" beliefs; I know that I have a purpose for being on this Earth.

I just need to find what it is, and fulfill it.
 
It depends on the drug IMO. Escaping from time to time is not a bad thing and people do it a lot without using psychoactive substances. I mean, think about it, in our society, we basically work so that we can afford to escape, be it through drugs, movies, food, sex etc..

The problem comes when a person starts to depend on an escape to be happy.

I think that certain drugs though, are less risky in terms of addiction potential than others. For example, heroin is a very hard drug to use "responsibly". Before I started using opiates, I was pretty good about my drug use IMO. I could do cocaine a few times a week, and then not touch it again, and after I got used to it, I learned to drink in a way that didn't get me shit faced every time I wanted a buzz. But drugs like heroin offer a lot more than just an escape. They can either numb you out, or make you feel, they can get you up and out of bed, and they can help you fall asleep. For me, heroin was the "cure" for everything, and it became very easy to rationalize my drug use, and eventually the things I had to do so that I could get high.

But on a whole, whether you should or shouldn't use drugs, should be up to you.
 
Your friend basically sums it up when he says "plenty of people can live without drugs, so why do the small percentage need to?". We are animals living in a society pretending it is something that it is not. Humans are built upon their desires and these desires can be healthy or not. Our genetics, our upbringing, and so many other factors lead to the person you see in the mirror today and the desires that you have in life. You are the only one who can make the decision to use psychoactive drugs or not, just like you, in the end, are the person that makes decisions regarding your life. Likewise, we simply cannot pass judgement upon another because we have never walked in their shoes and we absolutely do not understand the whole that makes up the sum of their parts.
 
I'm going to ramble a bit in another direction. There is some relevance here but I can't figure out how to tie it in to the discussion.

IMO, there are three types of drug users.

Occassional / Social users. People who use when they are depressed, or use in a social situation (drinking with friends, smoking pot, etc.)
Addicts. People who have developed a dependence to a drug, or a dependence to being high. E.G. the drug doesn't matter, just that you aren't sober.
Hobbyists. I know it sounds weird to say, but there are people out there who treat drugs like a hobby. People who use on a regular basis because drugs are fun, but don't need to be high all of the time, and take great care to avoid physical addiction. Unfortunately these people mostly end up addicts.

Anyway, I blame the government for both the existence of addicts, and the low number of heavy users. If drugs were legal, I believe that the topic of drugs would be much less taboo, more research could be done on how to prevent and fix addictions, and people could be more open about their usage. If your friends and family know you're headed towards addiction, they could stop you before you get there.

On the other side, I do think there would be more "hobbyist" drug users. Legalization could lower drugs prices and make it much more practical in general for people to experiment with drugs. And while a lot of people self righteously preach about how you don't need drugs to have fun, i think thats a load of bullshit. Humans are naturally curious, we enjoy novel things, and drugs are chemically engineered to be novel, somewhat peculiar things.

Anyway, hope that all makes sense. I might edit it in the morning.
 
some drugs such as psychedelics can be used for personal growth and therapy, although obviously for escape as well. Most drugs that are purely hedonistic such as meth, heroin, crack/coke, etc are essentially used only for "escape" whether that be escape from reality, sad feelings, or from the boredom of sobriety. It honestly depends on why you actually are doing the drug. I believe the risk for addiction and habituation can be greatly reduced if the drug user takes a step back and honestly contemplates his/her reasoning for doing said drug. If they find their reasoning is the good old " I just need this right now to get through x, after y amount amount of time I'll stop and be sober" or something similar, it may be time to reevaluate the use of that drug. With something as benign as mj or the like, it usually tends to not be a big deal why or why not the drug is used as it doesn't have a massive impact on the users life as whole.
 
^ I suppose my first usually at the beginning was insufficient haha. Yea seriously though I don't want to say that fairly non-addictive and friendly substances can't cause problems with some people, even my old pal cannabis has caused many people to slip into patterns of habituation or pseudo-addiction.
 
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