why men make music?

I know plenty of artists who produce across genres. One day a psy track, the next a D'n'B Track, the next a techno track, etc etc. And frankly its pretty consistently the general consensus that producing quality music within any genre requires the same levels of technical ability and technical complexity. Frankly I doubt you know the first thing about production because you would pretty quickly realize that the technical side of things are relatively straight forward in any genre but where the real magic comes from is creative impulse rather than so called "complexity". The rapid-fire speed of D'n'B breaks merely tricks many listeners into thinking it is complex when in fact the core structure of D'n'B is oftentimes quite simple.

Now the assertion that women can't make music like this is fantastically moronic, though I would be willing to accept the idea that men are more likely to spend hours in front of their computer engaged in tedious hyper analytic tinkering than women, and time dedication is necessary to produce quality sounds.
 
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I think he might have realized that he didn't know what time signatures really meant. I've struggled to find stuff in times signatures other than either 4/4, or free time.
 
Venetian Snares does alot of stuff in different time signatures, its what makes it sound really 'clever'.
 
i dont think theres a direct correlation between the two... just like lawyers, writers
 
thanks for the elaborate reply. i still don't agree with you, but it was very interesting reading about dnb production. imho the complexity just resides in another area. with dnb it's (obviously) the breaks and bass, while in psytrance it's in the leads/arps/harmony/fx.
i agree 100% that percussion and bass in psytrance are most of the time outright boring ;). there's no competition here (even though psy basses sometimes have 3 layers [sub+low bass+stereo high bass]). in 98% of the cases you have a simple kick bass combo with zero alterations in the pattern (if you don't count the obligatory highpass filter sweep) and i'd certainly appreciate a bit more complexity (like in oldschool techno) here.
in goa trance you do see complex leads with five layers, lots of modulation and crazy effects chains. or upwards of 5 melodies playing at the same time which intermingle to create a new melody in your head and chords/progressions. i've made tracks with upwards of 60 channels (not counting sends) and fx chains with up to 10 inserts, so that tutorial video doesn't impress me that much (except those layered breaks. i wouldn't have thought there's so much laying in there, but maybe that's because i hardly listen to dnb ever since i discovered psy 7 years ago and dnb was different back then?)

i guess it just depends on how you look at it (and how knowledgable/interested you are in the genre-specific technicalities. so goa trance is still more complex in my eyes ;) :D

this thread makes me want to produce some dnb now :)

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i think most women just don't have the almost autistic urge to keep fiddling knobs for nights on end ;)
 
If you don't think women can make quality electronic music, just listen to Imogen Heap.

She does everything from start to finish -- AFAIK she even masters her own albums, but that, I'm not sure about.
 
With the lifestyle that comes with production (the hermit aspect), many women need more social contact.
Also the whole technical side drives many of them away, same reason a vast majority of IT/IS employees are also men.
Most producers are similar to hardcore geeks, stacks of pizza boxes, up till 5am randomly.
 
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Furthering on from what Rated E posted, I think there is a difference in demand for certain jobs and professions for Males and Females. Engineering, IT, mining and Mechanics are examples of very Male dominated roles and Nursing, Airplane Hostess, Vegans/Vegitarians and secretaries are very Female dominated roles.

With more numbers in a role it is a lot more likely to get people who excel. So if only 5% of the electronic music industry is comprised of Females it would make sense that you only get a select few Female electronic producers.
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just had to pop in and say my dads a nurse.. and makes a good living haha.. i think id rather produce music or continue with the IT deal.
 
It is true for my favourite genres (psytrance/goatrance) that all artists that produce complex stuff with lots of twists, effects and complex melodies are all men. There are a few women goa/psy producers, but they're crap.

However, regarding electronic music it may be a cultural thing. Producing electronic music requires good knowledge about a lot of technic stuff and computers. In general, it's men and not women who are "computer nerds". So I think a lot of it has to do with men just feeling more comfortable with all the technics. Doesn't explain why I haven't heard a single good electronic track produced by a woman though. It may be good produced, but the music is just "copied" with no innovativity.
 
heres some women I can think of that make great electronic music :D


DJ Rap (oldskool jungle legend)

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TOKiMONSTA

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Cooly G

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Mizz Beats

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Vaccine

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Ikonika

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NoYeahNo

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Can't think of anymore at the moment lol

Quite a few times I have randomly found out that a producer is a woman, obviously not what you presume so theres probably more than it seems!
 
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StarOceanHouse said:
Black, are you on soundcloud? I'd like to hear some of your productions.
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i am, but i haven't yet put anything interesting up there. besides, being as paranoid as i am, i want to avoid having my name on bl connected to my artist name, so, sorry :(


@marsmellow
there are a few rumors around the psy scene that someone else was the driving force behind miranda's two albums. i don't know if it's true, but her recent output certainly is pretty bad....
 
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