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Harm Reduction Why IV cocaine is not worth it...

^ Thanks man. It is awesome. Sometimes I forget what I used to be like. Or how broken I was from all the abuse.

8 months is pretty rad Zneg. If you want to move past the IV coke I promise you that all that crap will go away with time. Everything really, dope and coke. It's a struggle no doubt but it does end if you give it a chance. Now I can enjoy my weed and booze like a gentleman =D. Obviously I can't dabble in opiates anymore.... but I never could so nothing has changed really. I suppose the difference is I accept it now, so it ain't a big deal. I can't crave the rush without also craving the hell that comes with it. I wish it were one way, but it's both ways; two sides to the same coin really.... the rush and pain are inseparable.

I remember I used to stare at the clock, and think, "Okay, it's 5:17..... Had I shot coke like I wanted to so badly at 5:10, I would still be at 5:17 right now....with no rush, and a big ass craving for another." The idea that satisfaction was impossible to achieve helped a little.
 
I never got into IV coke because I actually prefer smoking crack. I enjoy the process of smoking it so much, probably because it reminds of me smoking weed (taking big hits and holding them in) but after a while I got tired of smoking crack and stopped. Crack is a horrible drug but its so easy to stop compared to opiates, which I cant ever seem to stay completely away from.
 
Thanks for all the advice I am currently out of coke and am not planning on getting any more I have a stash of xanex that should last me 3 days at 6mg a day to help ease the craving. Wish me luck! And I got some high quality cannabis for when the benzos aren't enough ill keep you guys posted on how's it goes. I appreciate everyone sharing thier experiences with me and showing how I'm at the doorstep to hell and shouldn't take the next step to officially enter hell. Thanks so much
 
Redrawl said:
When i was younger i started with Ritalin, then moved to Concerta with ritalin (high dose), they prescribed me dex-amphetamine later (i did 6 x 10 mg a day).
Also done Wellbutrin for 2 months, started with 150 and upped to 450 mg a day.

From start to end i think i took daily stimulants for almost 10 years in a row.

And did MDMA and snortable amphetamines and some cocaine too.

It maybe sounds nice if you like stimulants, but when you're walking in my shoes it's a whole different story.

The last year i relapsed 3 times on heroin... i like sedation now way more then stimulating, while sedated i can focus and concentrate better then when i take stimulants.
No stimulants for me anymore.

I don't even drink coffee, gets me nauseous.
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Coffee is chemical piss...if you google the caffeine molecule, it's fuckall. Anything that doesnt have a single benzene ring and a nitrogen atom 1-2 carbons away down the chain is shit. The combination of uppers and downers may be responsible for the lack of tolerance. I myself combined codeine with d-amp and didn't grow any tolerance.
 
I do not miss poking myself every 15 minutes for quite literally weeks on end. Any sleep that I got, was due to the extreme sleep deprivation and subsequent "nodding" that any experienced methamphetamine or cocaine user can relate to.

Yup, I definitely don't miss binging on coke where your at the point where I'd find myself waking up.... with a needle still in my arm or holding an uncapped syringe inches from my poking myself in the eyes/face. Or waking up and having sold/pawned/traded valuable or sentimental belongings for a fucking quarter O.

I don't miss that feeling you get when you stand up for the first time after you've been sitting on the floor shooting coke all night and you realize that every muscle in your body is contracted, tense, or in knots from hunching over prepping and administering shots all night, streams of dried blood caking your arms and clothes.

I don't miss OBLITERATING important relationships and some of the most respectable friends that one day used to respect me.

I don't miss having to wear long sleeves in the triple digit summer heat to cover the 25+ bloody track marks.... One day I rolled up my sleeves for a second in a moment of weakness under the beating sun, and my coworkers stared at me and I gave some fucking bullshit excuse about getting stung by a swarm of bees when I was destroying their nest with my bare hands.... (IM NOT CHUCK NORRIS).

I don't miss all the compulsive lying that had become second nature. I've always hated liars, and cocaine (at least... IV'd) turns me into someone who I'm not. I have not touched cocaine via the IV route in over 3 years. I've insufflated and rectally administered it socially but it's not common for cocaine users to be generous with their $50 of likely 50% baking soda / adulterated bags, and I don't associate myself much with users of cocaine, and I CANNOT be around people doing IV cocaine.

I don't shoot up, but I can be around people shooting up (provided they have a sense of HR)..... pretty much anything, except cocaine. Doesn't phase me to be around people shooting heroin even as a former-IV user, especially if I can spread some knowledge about better injection technique. Kinda makes up for it. Does it make me jealous to watch them nod out and drool in euphoria and chainsmoke cancersticks maybe doing blow or crystal to stay awake?

Nah, it's the opposite of temptation. I think that part of my success in quitting IVing was in part due to my desensitizing myself instead of distancing myself from needles. Pretty much everytime I watch someone shoot up, it reaffirms my lifestyle choice to not use the IV ROA anymore, I'm convinced it would be the death of me. Relapsing recently reaffirmed this too.

IV cocaine is the fucking devil and if any cocaine-users want to defend it, go ahead.... try, and fail.

I am with ZNegative on this, that quitting IV cocaine is one of my biggest accomplishments. I may not have won a nobel prize, but I don't ever have to lie steal or cheat to cover my tracks, pun intended.
 
tricomb said:
I do not miss poking myself every 15 minutes for quite literally weeks on end. Any sleep that I got, was due to the extreme sleep deprivation and subsequent "nodding" that any experienced methamphetamine or cocaine user can relate to.

Yup, I definitely don't miss binging on coke where your at the point where I'd find myself waking up.... with a needle still in my arm or holding an uncapped syringe inches from my poking myself in the eyes/face. Or waking up and having sold/pawned/traded valuable or sentimental belongings for a fucking quarter O.

I don't miss that feeling you get when you stand up for the first time after you've been sitting on the floor shooting coke all night and you realize that every muscle in your body is contracted, tense, or in knots from hunching over prepping and administering shots all night, streams of dried blood caking your arms and clothes.

I don't miss OBLITERATING important relationships and some of the most respectable friends that one day used to respect me.

I don't miss having to wear long sleeves in the triple digit summer heat to cover the 25+ bloody track marks.... One day I rolled up my sleeves for a second in a moment of weakness under the beating sun, and my coworkers stared at me and I gave some fucking bullshit excuse about getting stung by a swarm of bees when I was destroying their nest with my bare hands.... (IM NOT CHUCK NORRIS).

I don't miss all the compulsive lying that had become second nature. I've always hated liars, and cocaine (at least... IV'd) turns me into someone who I'm not. I have not touched cocaine via the IV route in over 3 years. I've insufflated and rectally administered it socially but it's not common for cocaine users to be generous with their $50 of likely 50% baking soda / adulterated bags, and I don't associate myself much with users of cocaine, and I CANNOT be around people doing IV cocaine.

I don't shoot up, but I can be around people shooting up (provided they have a sense of HR)..... pretty much anything, except cocaine. Doesn't phase me to be around people shooting heroin even as a former-IV user, especially if I can spread some knowledge about better injection technique. Kinda makes up for it. Does it make me jealous to watch them nod out and drool in euphoria and chainsmoke cancersticks maybe doing blow or crystal to stay awake?

Nah, it's the opposite of temptation. I think that part of my success in quitting IVing was in part due to my desensitizing myself instead of distancing myself from needles. Pretty much everytime I watch someone shoot up, it reaffirms my lifestyle choice to not use the IV ROA anymore, I'm convinced it would be the death of me. Relapsing recently reaffirmed this too.

IV cocaine is the fucking devil and if any cocaine-users want to defend it, go ahead.... try, and fail.

I am with ZNegative on this, that quitting IV cocaine is one of my biggest accomplishments. I may not have won a nobel prize, but I don't ever have to lie steal or cheat to cover my tracks, pun intended.
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Amen tri.. we shared footprints<3
 
Quick update today is about day 3 with no heroin or come I feel like shit but getting better everyday. Only thing that I have taken are a few hits of some quality bud to help me through. Thanks to all who chimed in with their experiences and showed me the light before I got to the dark side of the moon..
 
I just finished a -distinguished, I assure you- two hour long diatribe about the joys and pitfalls of IV cocaine. And somehow it got deleted -a merciful god looking out for any potential readers/victims. Suffice it to say, long time dope fiend, and old/ex (prior to last month) coke fiend. Just started IV'ing coke recently; first time was last month (hadn't before when I was using it heavily b/c hadn't yet shot up - only insufflating it, albeit heavily). Dope game led to injection, as it so often does. So got bright idea to IV coke. Whole new ball game now tho. Pushing down on plunger and the brain and body instantly exploded like a firework, gravity became heavier but yet I felt light as air. I couldn't breathe but the panic was tempered by thrill and excitement. My dopamine receptors must have gone off like a roman candle. Its already becoming problematic. I work with ppl in AA (even an ex sponsor). I take subs to control my previously uncontrolled and devastating heroin use and I've put my life back on track more or less. As a fellow psych inpatient wrote: "they pulled me out of the sack, And they stuck me together with glue. And then I knew what to do". I got on opiate substitute and sacrificed a sex drive and thus a fulfilling adult life in order not to rob, lie, steal, get arrested, be homeless, be plagued by depressions and suicidal ideation, overdose, fall into comas, etc. But I cant take anything for cocaine. No relatively symptomless stimulant substitute on the market -that I know of (?).

This place feels familiar. I've stood here before. I'm about to either fall hard, maybe for good, or escape by the skin of my teeth; which I do so often (even in unbelievable circumstances) that it's unfair to all the good people I know who's funerals I stopped attending b/c they grew too numerous and b/c their deaths were from things I had escaped so many times it just seemed like a cruel joke. Pardon the melodrama. A girl I used to be close with -who was 6 or 7 years my junior- just died at 23 yrs old -I'm assuming OD having known her and having slapped and shaken her out of an OD when she was only 17 (a favor she returned twice when I stopped breathing, although I required judgmental paramedics with Narcan needles -but save my life and I'll let you judge me. Christ, save it twice, and I'll join you in judging me. A few hours ago my post was so ecstatic and upbeat, must be on the way down.

As for my fate (I know. Fate is a terribly pretentious word for future but that seemed even more pretentious for some reason. Reminded me of too many screen plays or movies. Besides, I already quoted Sylvia Plath -mostly from memory too- although I did require google to give me the exact phrasing...but I knew it had to do with glue, so there's that) I suppose time will tell how this will play out for me (god for someone that hates cliches I don't seem capable of avoiding them for longer than a few words...)

Thanks for your post Hippie. I really related to what u said. Our stories are crazy similar (at least certain details and timelines). I'm new to this but hit me up some time. I'd like to see how your managing, if your managing, which I sincerely hope you are. Thanks all, later... Oh, btw, I meant SWIM when I said "I" or "me"...its just easier for me at this point to use personal pronouns...I'm sure SWIM will get the hang of it eventually. Although it goes against my vehement insistence on selfcenteredness. I apologize for the excessive and probably mostly unnecessary punctuation; ellipses in particular but not exclusively. I cant help myself when stimulants are rushing through my blood stream...-...I'm addicted to punctuation and never ending tangential and partially, or mostly, incomprehensible sentences. I'm Hemingway on dope but I'm Joyce on blow -subtracting the talent, insight, and genius...naturally.

I don't feel like spell checking so please no furious grammatical showmanship; I concede, I'm an ideeit and you're a geenyos. Hopefully grammar errors wont ruin everything I've written. I require artificial red underscores to tell me, somewhat obnoxiously, that I've misspelles this or that and here's a suggestion of what I may or may not have been trying to say. Often the suggestion isn't what I was looking for, I'm that off... but enough. Thanks.
 
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I too had my problems with repeated compulsive iv coke administration. It's addictive as shit.

However now when I very rarely shoot heroin I like to mix a bit of coke into the shot. I do it so infrequently I like to get the most bang for my buck so to speak. Heroin alone feels like something is missing lol.

Wish I could try h and methamphetamine combo.
 
.1 on a scale is 100mg, give or take depending on quality of cocaine, that's why .10 is a gram (1,000mg). its very hard to measure a dose by MG, due to the potency of the cocaine, and how batches vary. when IVing cocaine, u need to find a medium dose, a comfortable rush, if u do too little, u will be pissed and redoes for a bigger shot, if you do a lot, you may scare urself that ur going to OVERDOSE (on hands and knees gasping for air), its a tricky drug to IV, and very dangerous. Russian roulette in my opinion, almost EVERYONE I talk to is a DOWNER person, but Im DEF an UPPER person, mostly amphetamines, I think uppers are 100x more euphoric then downers, reason why people are DOWNER types is the crash, just make sure u go some benzos are dope to come down, even tho it may be dangerous, then again, IVing cocaine alone is dangerous, IVing anything in dangerous, be safe
 
Tricomb...wow. You just described exactly what I was living prior to June of this year. Been off IV coke n dope for almost 2 months now. But I swear, I'm bookmarking this thread.

Because the next time I get the not-so-genius idea to shoot coke n feel that rush again, I'm going to re-read your post. That's all the stuff my brain so conveniently forgets when I crave a shot. Thanks for the reality check
 
IV coke in 3 steps:

-this is the best feeling ever...oh my god
-fuck I think I did too much...I'm gonna die
-more more more...gimme more

Over a period of about 5 minutes.
 
Ksa said:
Coffee is chemical piss...if you google the caffeine molecule, it's fuckall. Anything that doesnt have a single benzene ring and a nitrogen atom 1-2 carbons away down the chain is shit. The combination of uppers and downers may be responsible for the lack of tolerance. I myself combined codeine with d-amp and didn't grow any tolerance.
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2 much BS in one post!

To the guys that said they got caught up in weeks of coke binges? How the fuck.
 
Mr.Scagnattie said:
What's surprising about that? Weeks is nothing. I've been on coke binges that lasted for years.
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I mainly meant the one's saying they had little sleep in between and constantly doing shots until they pass out involuntarily (They didn't quite say all that but that's how I took it)

But really, maybe I'm just new to life but how do you get caught up in something like COCAINE for years? But then again I did 2C-E every day for months... haha, my generation :p
 
Um. It's REAL easy. I had an 8 month run in college, and I wasn't even shooting it. It was GOOD coke, and by the end I was hooting close to a quarter o a day. This was before all them new fangled chemicals that all you whipper snappers are doing were even thought of, though. Man. Sometimes I feel old...
 
bloodshed344 said:
But really, maybe I'm just new to life but how do you get caught up in something like COCAINE for years? But then again I did 2C-E every day for months... haha, my generation :p
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You're saying that like it's an odd thing? Hard addictive drugs are addictive for a reason.. cocaine is exactly the kind of thing that's easy to get caught up in for years..
 
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