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Why isn't there any Barbiturate RC's?

^^ well im benzo/barb addict and i love them as much as u do tho alprazolam is pretty shitty benzo. not that long acting, very very weak active metabolite. my fav benzos r kpin, flunitra, midazolam, way too much better than alprazolam no doubt
 
SC-17599 would be an amazing RC

It would possibly remain below the legal radar for a while in the US. By analogy, I am amazed how long certain anabolic steroids were/are sold legally in the states. Decades and decades and decades some of them.
 
It would possibly remain below the legal radar for a while in the US. By analogy, I am amazed how long certain anabolic steroids were/are sold legally in the states. Decades and decades and decades some of them.

true. DHEA, which is converted to controlled steroids and converted to testosteroine in the body(DHEA itself can also be converted) is available at wal-mart, vitamin shoppe, and GNC.

its been proposed to be controlled, but you can still get it anywhere.
 
^hell, methasterone (Superdrol) was available at stores for almost 2 decades before the DEA butted in last year.
 
Does anyone have any sources for phenazepam fatalities and overdoses? I'd be interested in tracking this if anyone wants to help. I think it's an important thing to document.

yeah they're easy to OD on, but a good barb comes second only to true sweet ludes. %)

I've only had access to methaqualone for a few days from a friend whose father was an ambassador from an African country in which quaaludes were still legal, but I found them disappointing and very sleepy and nowhere near as recreational as xanax or valium. Maybe I was expecting too much since the only reference I had encountered for quaaludes at that point in my life was cheech and chong movies which made them appear to be really fun, but I found them really boring and they just made me tired and my limbs feel like they were tied to a bundle of bricks. I don't recall ever having any true barbiturates or chloral hydrate, but if they're mostly similar to methaqualone, then I'd say benzos have more potential for mass appeal. Also, from what I understand benzos tend to have a much more substantial range between the theoretical ed50 and the theoretical ld50, which is important with drugs of this sort when sold as pure powders to recreational users.
 
I'm sure there's an online pharmacy located in some third world country that will ship you all the barbs you want as long as you don't mind paying crazy prices and customs seizures. And no, I don't know of any before anyone asks.
 
^I bought the 'drols for the last time at a local (Florida) store in December of '08 (thread). The same store had it available until shortly after ADD exposed that Lean Xtreme shit back in September of 2009.
 
Benzos have largely been considered much more recreational than barbs... Barbs have a MUCH higher fatality rate from OD than benzos as well.

I'm also curious about these hospitalizations/deaths from phenazepam.
 
fuck, I wish RC vendors would realize that a lot of people want RC's that make people *tired*. every god damn rc makes you stay up for days, I wish just once they would make an opioid, or muscle relaxer, or whatever. fuck.

Isn't that why analogue law was adopted in AMerica. It was because of designer opioids designed to get around the CSA.
 
pheno is shitty barb

plus barbs r not for everyone. they r also cyp450 complex inducers

i live in 3rd world country tho barbs not a fav topic here due to their high morbidity/mortality rate
dont fuck wit them unless u kno wut ur doin
 
I've had barbital twice and it was nothing special IMO. Made me a bit drowsy and relaxed but no euphoria like what I get from some benzos.

Barbital is even supposed to be the strongest of the barbs, so if the rest are even worse, no thanks.
 
^^ where do u get that idea? usually good barbs r those short acting ones wit anesthetic properties (like thiopental) barbital is long acting and not that potent either
 
^^ yeah midazolam kickass benzo imo luv it<3 it has such a nice rush but i get severe paradoxical reactions whenever i bang it. never did lopra tho its not legal here
 
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