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Why isn't there any Barbiturate RC's?
StaySedated
Bluelighter
there are rc's for for pretty much every class of drug except barbs. hell, theres even benzo and quaalude rc's, but none that are barbs.
why isn't there any? or is there?
dread
Bluelighter
atara
Bluelighter
It looks bad when people die.
Hell, I heard about some phenazepam overdoses just yesterday. Cue DEA frenzy, site takedowns, and scheduling.
BlindReverend!!
Bluelighter
fuck, I wish RC vendors would realize that a lot of people want RC's that make people *tired*. every god damn rc makes you stay up for days, I wish just once they would make an opioid, or muscle relaxer, or whatever. fuck.
StaySedated
Bluelighter
no, they just control the ones they know about.
Slapdragonx
Bluelighter
Barbs are easy to od on. Unless you found one with a massive safety index.
StaySedated
Bluelighter
yeah they're easy to OD on, but a good barb comes second only to true sweet ludes. %)
u dont have to goto RC vendors to get downers. These are all easily obtainable/legal(and i'll say no more than that)...
1,4-BDO
Carisoprodol
Baclofen
Chlorobutanol
2-Methyl-2-Butanol
Primidone
+many more
Primidone is a prodrug to Phenobarbital, but i the consencus is Pheno is less pleasant than all the other barbituates and is more sedating
Phener
Bluelighter
unfortunately wishful thinking
^ that was in reference to Benzylbutylbarbiturate in japan, but just checked exact same 5,5-disub is applicable to UK law. I don't know this for ALL countries I admit but I'd predict most countries employ something very similar, again like I said it's an ancient genre of illicit substances.
Regardless I would hate to see a barbiturate RC, it's like having a super potent opioid RC - unwise.
kokomo
Ex-Bluelighter
2-methyl-2-butanol is amylene hydrate which is an aldehyde so is chlorobutanol. carisoprodol is active metabolite of meprobamate which is a carbamate. i have no idea wut 1,4-BDO is and too lazy to check it out tho im sure it aint barb either. baclofen?! oh cum on facepalm.jpg
the only barb on ur list is primidone (aka desoxyphenobarb)
fryingsquirrel
Bluelighter
On the outside chance you seriously don't know, it's a prodrug of GHB and a fairly common solvent.
kokomo
Ex-Bluelighter
Captain.Heroin
Bluelight Crew
Not trying to bust your balls (and I do appreciate the info), but none of those sound interesting to me and I like downers. That's just my 2 cents though.
1,4-BDO is metabolized into GHB.
Beat me to it.
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kokomo
Ex-Bluelighter
^^ sum aldehydes and carbamates (tho theres only one carb on thet list) r kickass downers. plus primidone much better barb than phenobarb imo - if u can manage to walk without hurtin urself
kokomo
Ex-Bluelighter
^^ alprazolam wtf? ur kiddin rite?
DeLee
Bluelighter
The bold and underlined ones are the ones ive tried and liked.
I love Carisoprodol and Baclofen - Baclofen reminds me of GHB in some way.
While I wouldn't really call them "research" chemicals: Tramadol and Kratom. Kratom is completely legal afaik, and Tramadol is essentially unscheduled (http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/drugs_concern/tramadol.htm)
There are plenty of other unscheduled opioids out there. One of the main problems with marketing them as RCs is that many of them are several times as potent, to several thousand times as potent, as morphine - and marketing them would lead to lots of ODs. I really wish I could have bought some tapentadol before it became scheduled.
SC-17599 would be an amazing RC, in my opinion - potency in between codeine and morphine, and lots of mu receptor activity without any delta or kappa.
I doubt he's kidding. Alprazolam can be lots of fun, if you like benzos. I know I like it - it's my second favorite benzo, right behind lorazepam.
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