why isnt there a website that shows current blotter.

[Godzilla]

I have had some DOI blotters that had LSA on one side and 100mcg on the other

Those are the type of people that f everything up. Go ahead and make your profits just dont sell me bullshit. I dont go to the store to purchase sugar and get home with a bag of flour.

 

[Feste]

I have had some DOI blotters that had LSA on one side and 100mcg on the other

Did that make no sense to anyone else? So did the blotters have DOI, LSD or LSA on?

Can you even fit an active dose of LSA on blotter? I've no clue why anyone would bother putting LSA on blotter even if you could.

 

[demon66]

I think that's a fantastic idea. A pill reports for LSD...

I second that

 

[Damien]

Basically, I think that while I LOVE the idea (a website like that that actually helped people would be fucking great), I think LSD blotter paper is much too inconsistent in its delivery, design and partition to make useful an entire website for it like we are able to do with ecstasy.

I agree. What's to stop me from printing something out, posting it as bomb, making some fake reviews for it and then start distributing it based on the false report? Paper just isn't the same as a pressed pill that people scrutinize down to mm measurements, weight, color, etc.

 

[demon66]

Obviously the organization that tested the blotter would have to be reputable.

 

[ledionz]

Did that make no sense to anyone else? So did the blotters have DOI, LSD or LSA on?

Can you even fit an active dose of LSA on blotter? I've no clue why anyone would bother putting LSA on blotter even if you could.

They were sold to me as DOI blotters but had the letters LSA printed on one side and 100mcg printed on the other, effects were consistent with DOI.

 

[surf.shaman]

Were you eating much paper back then? What do you dispute of what I said?


As for the second statement - depends what you mean by harm. But for a LONG time it was L or nothing.

yes.

Dose mostly. Content partially.

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_article3.shtml

agreed. not that i have first hand experience now (too far out of the loop) i would still say if its thin paper and a standard size... if 1/2 a hit gives any effect its L (or close to it)

 

[surf.shaman]

PharmChem Laboratories in California was another source for LSD analysis. In the 1970s, PharmChem carried out tests on samples sent to its facility by drug consumers themselves; a list of results obtained from 1972 to 1974 can be accessed at Erowid. In this list, 514 samples were submitted as LSD. They came in different forms: on paper or sugar cubes, in tablets, capsules, gel, or liquid, and soaked onto mushrooms. Forty-three of these samples (8.3 % ) did not test positive for LSD, or they had LSD plus another substance (PCP, amphetamine, methamphetamine, pseudoephedrine, DOM, or ergot derivatives). The other 91.7 % contained LSD with no adulterating substances: 44 samples (8.5 % ) contained LSD plus iso-LSD (an allegedly non-psychoactive isomer); 5 samples (0.9 % ) contained LSD marked as impure; for the remaining 422 samples (82.1 % ) LSD was the sole substance detected. LSD quantities were expressed in micrograms for 156 samples, with 5 µg being the minimum quantity found (although some others merely had a "trace" amount), 475 µg was the maximum quantity in a single sample, and 78.8 µg was the average quantity.

 

[madswagga]

They were sold to me as DOI blotters but had the letters LSA printed on one side and 100mcg printed on the other, effects were consistent with DOI.

could you indulge us with about where

 

[Choronzon333]

The problem with that approach is that, while it might work in say a legal situation where the market was regulated, it doesn't work when absolutely anyone with access to crystal (or even liquid if they just drop it onto the tabs) can dose any blotter however they like, so people would just find the one that was said to be most potent, and drop their diluted doses on their, then reap huge profits from it because everyone would be after that particular design.

Yeh but the same is true for pills.

 

[sockpuppet]

edit.

 

[surf.shaman]

What you posted confirmed my original statement. The Hidalgo paper stated:



Which confirms what I wrote. AFAIA DOB then was circulated on blotter AS DOB among very select circles. For all practical purposes the only thing laid on paper in the years I'm referring to was LSD.

As for dose, the outlier highest dosages mentioned from the DEA numbers both include the mid 70s period of transition before the 100mcg de facto max standard, as well as presumably any seizures of small family stashes dosed higher. The "classic era" of paper I referred to above began in around 1980 and there was a standard family formula for laying paper that would produce max 100mcg doses for the general public. There were even standards on how much profit distributors were supposed to make. As I wrote however the actual dose - particularly by the time it reached the consumer was generally lower and 100mcg hits in those years were considered quite good.

The PharmChem stuff about adulterants/other drugs is from data from the earlier era (to which I also referred) in which LSD acquired it's bad reputation. Also the era before paper took over as the most standard form in the US.

i do basically agree with you and i want to totally agree with you.

134 blotter samples is not very many and i question the overall statistical validity of drawing conclusions based on such a small sample from such a large data set.