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Why is there hunger?

MyDoorsAreOpen said:
I clicked this thread thinking it would be about why there is hunger in the world. The main reason for this, I think, is that starvation is often used as a weapon of war. Some famines are accidental, and result from natural disasters and weak and unreliable supply chains. Ones in the past (and likely the future) were the result of population growth outpacing food production growth. But most present famines are the result of willful neglect on someone's part, someone who either wants to hog all available food when it gets scarce, or is trying to put pressure on someone to get demands met, or both.
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Whilst you raise a good point from a political perspective, I think the fundamental reason for hunger and famine existing is because this planet is so grossly overpopulated.
 
You make it sound like it has a choice...
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Lol I know you didn't mean it that way - maybe' the Earth only plays the "roll" of a medium here, the same as our Moon does with our Sun, and the Sun does to our Galaxy.
 
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indeed - and it explains a lot to realize that there is no action in optimistic, with out pessimistic...there is no time for that here(never was) - as has been shown. the earth is a polar organism, the same as you and i, in the North and in the South parts of the "globe", Male and Female.

it is divination, we are a created remainder of a sum. what remains of us returns into the product of a whole - we see pessimistic doesnt exist with out optimistic, and accept them further as the same...and once this(in part) has been accomplished, total divinity has been reached.
 
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"Because everything must die, otherwise, you wouldn't be alive."

Do you die? Or does your physical body only do so?

"The planet doesn't have a choice in the matter, no. But its inhabitants do."

What choice is "good" for the planet? Perhaps to a human it would be sustainability, but to an impersonal universe, is anything really good or bad?
 
our bodies die to feed the earth, we feed from the earth.

our thought lives on to touch others, all is with in reach.

our spirit is what is hungry to live, acceptance and love is what feeds the spirit.
 
copelandia. said:
"The planet doesn't have a choice in the matter, no. But its inhabitants do."

What choice is "good" for the planet? Perhaps to a human it would be sustainability, but to an impersonal universe, is anything really good or bad?
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I didn't say the word "good" ;)
And if the topic of this thread is hunger, insinuating that it is an "evil" thing, then yes, overpopulating the planet is not a good choice no matter how I look at it. Others could think differently on the matter, but that is my humble opinion :)
 
We need to achieve a 0 population growth globally asap. Any growth is unsustainable in a finite system. With our high yield system right now, we are more susceptible than ever to natural disasters including botanical plague. Imagine a corn famine, wed be so SOL. We are overfishing the oceans. I am not an environmentalist with scare tactics, the commercial fishing vessels keep having to move farther and farther south along the african coast because they have exhausted the fish populations. Look at tuna populations. We will hit a critical mass, and then through one form or another a mass death will occur.

"And I forget just why I taste, oh yeah I guess it makes me smile" Nirvana smells like teen spirit.

“Hunger knows no friend but its feeder.” Aristophanes
 
i see the problem of overpopulation mostly as a problem of over consumption
there could be a lot more people on planet earth with no problem of resources
but then comes the problem of sharing those resources

but lets say there is a famine due to natural disaster like in somalia should those people not be allowed to have children because their children may not survive a possible famine ?
wouldnt that be worse than taking the risk of having children that may survive even tho it includes the possibility of then dying of hunger
people could simply stop making babies if they cared about the risk but they dont because they want to take the risk because thats what life is about
 
overpopulation isn't a problem. humans do a great job and self over-population control.

there is lots of food, just not the will to distribute it to everyone.

haves need havenots.
 
gaktattack said:
We need to achieve a 0 population growth globally asap. Any growth is unsustainable in a finite system.
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But that creates a totalitarian state 8)
Also, there are tricks to over urbanization (One of the problems I found in your video :) )
 
Could you clarify tricks for over urbanization?

Do you think there is a finite carrying capacity on this earth?

Im not encouraging a "The Giver" situation here. There are however as I see it limitations to the breed ourselves into destruction philosophy.

Whos hungry for some soylent green?
 
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gaktattack said:
Could you clarify tricks for over urbanization?

Do you think there is a finite carrying capacity on this earth?
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Depressions and war (Of course coupled with other factors)

What's it matter if there is a finite capacity? There's limitations within living. But yes, there have been many studies about the Earth's limitations with energy, agricultural, etc.
 
I wish you'd offer an alternative at some point. Or some suggestion as to how you view things should be taken.
 
The State should take role of care taker. And I mentioned what kinds of State should do that role.
Communism (True communism) to uproot the capitalist. Socialism (Again, something unseen). And then a anarchic system.
 
If only our ideal systems worked for the lowest common denominator. Have you considered moving to a commune?
 
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