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Why is the high from meth so subtle (few questions about meth high)

lifeisflyingaway

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Finally after 6 months of moving to this lame city, i finally was able to make a purchase of some oxy's and was able to do a little bit of free meth with the person who sells them. Since i recently got prescribed klonopin after much convincing, and a proper diagnosis i have been taking it as prescribed for one whole week now 0.5 twice a day. I was skipping a few days to avoid tolerance and dependence the first week i had them, because i hear about how nasty benzo addiction is even after taking it as prescribed. But i just got laid off my fairly new job last week, and it was the main thing keeping me happy. But regardless i'm trying to cut breaks in between with the klonopin now before it's too late. Ok some of this wasn't relevant so let me get to my real post now.

-I took 5 5/500 vicodins this morning, that i had obtained the other day. (I very much dislike vicodin because i find it weak, and i hate the apap but i wasn't able to find the oxys until today after months of looking). I didn't feel warm or real high just kind of a heaviness in the head, i'd rather even have the tylenol codeine's. After a few hours i felt a little bit of a headache and nausea i suppose from the 2,500mg of apap. I then took my dose of 0.5 klonopin and no it didn't enhance the buzz, i just felt pretty tired from the vicodin so layed down for an hour or so before feeling better. I found someone after much looking who said they had oxy's that they could sell me but primarily sells meth, which i have done a total of 7 times mostly all a few years ago.

-I took my second 0.5 of klonopin, felt just a little tired nothing overwhelming got picked up and went to the guys house. I was real paranoid because of my experience of tweakers, but he proved himself to be "stable" very nice and not like the other tweakers i have met. I smoked one hit, and was flipping through porn dvd's but just kept flipping through because i was slightly tweaking. I smoked 4 more hits, and i got a slight wave of tingles running through my body but very slightly and also in my head. We hung out for an hour or so before he dropped me off, but i never really felt the meth a whole lot and still don't and it's been almost three hours. Now even in the past always doing the clear shards, i never got no WHOA THIS INTENSE moment from meth, it was just a sudden increase in energy, talking, and lack of appetite, and real euphoric. I never felt a huge physical high such as good cocaine, ecstasy, heroin, pills etc. Physically i just felt slight tingles but a little bit more than i did this time. My guess is that the 0.5 klonopin that i took twice today may have dulled down the effects? Or all those vicodins i had earlier in the morning? I did and still do feel talkative but not nearly as much as i did in the past times, it was almost uncontrollable in the past, but i felt like i could control it maybe because of the klonopin mellowing it out a bit? But i guess my main question, is that is it normal not to feel a strong physical high from meth, sometimes it's barely noticable and i always have gotten clear shards including this time. Yes the one time i did say WHOA was when someone injected some pink meth in me (with acetone nail polish) and he put a little too much before pulling out the plunger. Other than that is it normal not to feel an overwhelming physical high from meth? My first time i said i couldn't feel it (3 years ago) and i did 8 hits and couldn't stop talking or go to sleep (and really pissed the tweaker off by asking a lot of questions) By the third or fourth time i learned to learn when i'm feeling it, when i start talking a lot, better mood/energy, but never felt really physically high is that normal? Like right now i can't even real feel a tingle but i know i'm feeling it because i feel a mood lift, and such but to a new person i would understand why they wouldn't be able to feel it. Sorry for the long thing, but just wanted to get the details in their, can anyone explain? Opinions/comments, would be greatly appreciated.
 
This just may be the way it affects you.

"sudden increase in energy, talking, and lack of appetite, and real euphoric."

Sounds about right.

And you know not to inject anything with nailpolish remover in it, right? It's not just acetone.
 
Meth isn't like MDMA or other drugs in the sense that you get "fucked up" or super high. Also, combing benzos/opiates could have mellowed out or even canceled out some of the effects would be my guess. Also, the strength and purity of meth varies.. you could have just gotten weak meth.
 
I'm pretty sure the klonopin slightly reduced some of the effects, because i was able to control how much i was talking and not be overwhelmingly energetic or grinding my teeth. So yeah that probably played a big role, but of the 7 times that i have done meth (excluding one of them) i never experienced a major body high or anything. As the person above me wrote it doesn't really "fuck" you up which is the reason many people become so functional on it atleast in the short run. I find tweakers strange because i never know what exactly they are feeling from being on it all the time. Some of them deny all of the side effects, but this new guy was pretty honest about shadow monsters if your up for awhile, etc. However he said that overwhelming urge to talk kinda dissappears. He also didn't seem paranoid at all, he had a few people coming in and out of his house purchasing, and then drives all over town delivering. He wasn't really hiding it when he was "weighing" out the drugs for different customers. One of the guys that came couldn't shut up which i kinda liked, but majority of his customers are straight which i thought was weird since we are gay and atleast where i used to live, many many gays were using meth. Also his house very clean, and he wasn't aggressive even when we were fooling around and overall seemed pretty sane. All the other meth guys i have done it with only like 3 all had scars on their face, were thieves, liars, and pretty rude. I am pretty sure the quality was good i've never done anything other than clear shards, but this guy said "crank" that they used to have which was yellow meth was much more potent and you can't come across it anymore, unfortunately. I wish their was more of a body buzz, but atleast the mental aspect of the high is what is good about meth. I hope i don't have a comedown seriously, that's why i stopped liking it.
 
not all meth is the same... you will find some meths are similar and some are different... i personally love the stuff that makes your legs wobble and the extreme euphoria... some people loves the stuff that gets their mind on edge so they can work or think...
some dont like extremelly potent meth.. some like a more chilled high..

and rhun, does MDMA give you what im looking for? ive never tried MDMA but i want to just feel good and fast like good euphoric meth does...
 
^There is only one kind of methamphetamine. Well, that's not true, but there is only one kind of psychoactive methamphetamine.

A drug experience comes down to three factors; mindset, environment, and dose relative to tolerance.

Different experiences can be attributed to these factors, in relation to how the drugs effects you, such as if you've been abusing it to the point where the magic is gone, or if it is your first time.
 
are you saying that all cooks cook the same stuff? no... there are differences in product, which can be noticed by the user
 
^ All cooks cook methamphetamine HCl (N-methyl-1-phenylpropan-2-amine), with varying degrees of purity. If it's something else, it isn't meth.
 
Yeah the klonopin surely had it's role in slightly decreasing the high i believe, but it also may be the reason i might be able to sleep soon, i saved my final dose of gabapentin for the night and seroquel xr, (both which i should of taken already) till i start feeling crappy and want to go to bed which i predict will be in a few hours. Although i'm not sky high euphoric at the moment either. I was earlier for a short while, should of snorted the shit.
 
OP, it's funny, reading your post, I can tell exactly what kind of drug user you are! I've gotten high with people like you....You sit there and objectively try to discern exactly how whatever you're taking is affecting you.....You keep saying things like, "My mouth is dry! Should my mouth be dry?!"....."Now I getting a tingling sensation is my face and mt thighs are itchy....is this normal?!"

Meanwhile, everybody else is just like, "Yeah, you're just high, realx and enjoy it!"....but you're analyzing the whole experience throughout....

A lot of times, even good drugs don't just kick your ass and make you say, "wow, Im fucked up!"...

It depends on a lot of things.....It happends sometimes, sometimes you're really high but it's not an earth-shattering experience....That's just how it goes....

Klonopin and opiates can drastically damper an amphetamine high, even cancel it out altogether if you do enough....

Sounds like you just mixed some different "downer" type drugs with a moderate amount of meth and got a nice buzz without a really "tweaky edge", which is one of the reasons a lot of people mix opiates and benzos with amphetamines.....

don't be mistaken, you can get really fucked up on meth!! The question is, is that really what you want? for me, I like to get good and high but not so fucked-up that it becomes where I can't do anything while I'm high....well sometimes I enjoy that, but I like to take drugs to lift my mood and enhance my life experience...

I can tell by your writing that the meth worked, BTW
 
After 7 hours of smoking it, and feeling pretty good (although not as upbeat and euphoric as i would of if i didn't take the klonopin) i decided to try and wind down, and take my final dose of gabapentin that i was suppose to take hours ago, and i felt it making my head a bit heavier (idk wtf is going on in my brain) I was still randomly researching shit, and out of nowhere i feel pretty damn depressed now. It must be the comedown, or the gabapentin adding to the meth comedown. I don;t feel like researching stuff as i did, or talking to the people who i was through text. I'm such an idiot i should of saved the klonopin for this part. I took a vicodin but that didn't help my mood which is feeling real depressed when thinking about current situations like how i got laid off and how hard it will be to find another job. Even though i have all those oxy's that i bought (which i'm not taking yet and only will take sparingly) And also have a new psychiatrist who can be prescribe me xanax in a few weeks ( which i am contemplating because i don't fully trust myself to take them only a few times a week, since i'm very distressed) Fuck. Although i'm being very cautious and looking out for things that can go wrong which a lot of people don't do, it's frustrating. I feel depressed now, i'm waiting a few hours to take my seroquel, and if i don't fall asleep. THE COMEDOWN WILL DEFEAT ME! -It's a shame it's real true all good things and feelings come to an end, i felt so different 4 hours ago.
 
and rhun, does MDMA give you what im looking for? ive never tried MDMA but i want to just feel good and fast like good euphoric meth does...
MDMA has the meth component this the second M in MDMA but it has a lot more euphoria and feel good, lovey dovey feeling. I don't mess with uppers anymore and I don't trip. MDMA did a lot of damage to my brain when I was young and really depleted my serotonin.

There are differences in quality/purity of meth which can cause difference experiences, especially if your receive meth with unknown cuts. Also, crank is not the same as meth. Different recipe and a lot of people back in the day used to make it in their bath tubs and shit :/ I was always told by my dad, who used to be a crankhead/original punk in Sacremento (used to be the crank capitola of the world), that the difference between crank and meth was crank got you really high for the first half hour then mellowed out whereas meth was more consistent. However, he said crankheads did a lot of fucked up shit.
 
For someone who says they're not really feeling it, you're typing a huge amount of text lol
 
^I'm sayin!

Fuck, you're on seroquel too? no wonder why you think it's so mellow.....
 
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On topic though, amps have a different feel to them. More of a mental high for me along with fidgeting and physical tics which for me are cracking my knuckles, rocking my body, raising my eyebrows repeatedly, etc. Usually I get very arrogant and egotistical and self centered thinking I'm better than everyone and that my way is always best. Though I feel gooood when I tweak. After a while though the euphoria goes away and I just stay stimulated when I binge on amps.
 
I have never "binged" on amps before, as i know that creates a whole new list of effects/ side effects. I just took my seroquel now, i don't think it's gonna help much since i take it daily i just waited till now thinking it would knock me out by now. It was taking klonopin right before smoking the meth that slightly decreased the euphoria of the high. I was so into typing, researching, chatting, than out of nowhere i realized i am starting to feel real depressed and spacy (a few hours ago) and i started worrying about tons of shit many which are actual things to worry about, it's like impending fear and wishing it would go away. Either way i felt horny and tried to jack off for three hours, it just never finishes on meth which is another thing i hate, i can't reach orgasm! It feels so good and compulsive and if i ever do reach it, it;s like multiple orgasms. Now i have to stop worrying, this is why i never liked doing meth often, laying their with all these negative worries and thoughts that won't leave you alone until you fall asleep. And even then you just feel so depressed! Maybe my morning dose of klonopin will fix this bullshit! I wrote a long ass thread about something concerning me about benzos. I feel bad for the guy who sold me the oxy's and let me do some of the meth he sells. He and every tweaker honestly must feel like shit! I'd rather comedown off heroin than this shit, you do it one time and it's like up up up and than down down DOWN.
 
It's subtle because you're taking opi's/benzo's for one, plus, you've got to learn how to do the meth/how much to do...

do enough, and it won't feel so subtle...you'll be freaking out every time a cop (or anything that looks like a cop) drives past and your heart will start beating at 150bpm lol...A lot of the fuck up with meth is from sleep deprivation as well...It's more euphoric than regular amps, but not as tweaky at the same doses...amphetamine (vyvanse, dexedrine, adderall) is more affinative (strength the molecule attachment to the receptor) for dopamine/norepinephrine receptors while methamphetamine is more affinative for serotonin...hence why it's more euphoric...

This lower affinity for d/n receptors is also why you see people get so tweaked out on meth...they can dose higher and higher at first without consequence, then BOOM, it finally gets them...

I've had a stronger high from meth from smoking about 750mg in 3 hours (DON'T DO THIS), than any high I've gotten from MDMA (ecstasy). Everything looked smokey (outside my care), I couldn't walk (was running everywhere), and I had the strongest euphoria I've ever had in my life...never have been able to get there again though...it wasn't the first high I chased...it was the 5th or 6th lol...

you just gotta Learn to Meth lmao...
 
^that about nails it lol. I remember doing the "running everywhere" thing on quite a few occasions. The euphoria can be quite strong and I usually get strong eye wiggles (nystagmus I think its called) when I am tweaked out my head.
 
yes...nystagmus is how you can tell I'm fucked lmao...oddly despite you being so thwacked out, you're like 2 hours late to everything you agree to lmao...("just one more good hit" *smoke* "wait, I just need to finish this bowl" *smoke* "one more bowl" *smoke* *phone rings* "ya, I'm on my way, now" *smoke*).

When I was on that stuff constantly it made me such a shitty person though...

blew off friends unless they were down with the shit, spent 4 days away from home and MAYBE came back for 2 days before binging again, was late to work so I could get tweaked enough for it (and way over did it), smoked in the starbucks bathroom on break or in my car at work...(I was a barista. I remember one customer saying to me, "man, you sure love coffee." I could sense the sarcasm in that...he knew...or so my tweaked brain thought so...all I could do was say "yup, gonna go fix another latte for myself and drink 300 more shots of espresso."

I love it, but I hate it...though if I had the cash, I'd prolly pick up a ball right now...
 
OP, it was all the other drugs that you were on that negated the effects of the methamphetamine to a great degree.
 
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