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Why is salary $ such a high influence on students university degree

Well I hope to do what I love, and that is research in the field of pharmacology, biochemistry, and/or medicinal chemistry. One of my ultimate goals is to one day do some research on psychedelics, in order to learn more about their mechanisms of action as well as to spread the knowledge I can gain to others.

I am not unrealistic however, and I realize that the grand majority of my work in this field has to be directed towards more "mainstream" areas of pharmacology. And I really have a true passion for pharmacology and chemistry. Even if I were never really able to work with psychedelics, I would be greatful for an oppurtunity to research in a laboratory. I love solving problems, especially those without clear answers that require much creativity.

The problems with this degree however, are obvious. It takes a long fucking time complete, and most likely a boatload of money (unless I somehow manage to get a decent scholarship, but I don't know just how high my GPA/SAT would have to be in order to get an education on scholarship. especially for a former highschool dropout going to community college). I also have no idea how well the job pays, nor do I know how competitive the job market will be. This definately leads to some uncertainty, and it is a similar uncertainty that has led many of my older friends to switch from really difficult degrees such as engineering, to more practical buisness degrees like hospitality management.
 
I now realize that the most holistically (which includes financially) successful people always do what they love
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Words of wisdom. DO WHAT YOU LOVE. If you can stay passionate about it, you'll put in the extra effort it takes to be successful.
 
Byrnn Grass said:
Well I hope to do what I love, and that is research in the field of pharmacology, biochemistry, and/or medicinal chemistry. One of my ultimate goals is to one day do some research on psychedelics, in order to learn more about their mechanisms of action as well as to spread the knowledge I can gain to others.

I am not unrealistic however, and I realize that the grand majority of my work in this field has to be directed towards more "mainstream" areas of pharmacology. And I really have a true passion for pharmacology and chemistry. Even if I were never really able to work with psychedelics, I would be greatful for an oppurtunity to research in a laboratory. I love solving problems, especially those without clear answers that require much creativity.

The problems with this degree however, are obvious. It takes a long fucking time complete, and most likely a boatload of money (unless I somehow manage to get a decent scholarship, but I don't know just how high my GPA/SAT would have to be in order to get an education on scholarship. especially for a former highschool dropout going to community college). I also have no idea how well the job pays, nor do I know how competitive the job market will be. This definately leads to some uncertainty, and it is a similar uncertainty that has led many of my older friends to switch from really difficult degrees such as engineering, to more practical buisness degrees like hospitality management.
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Hey man, I recently decided I was going to get a Bachelor's in Physics ( I have my AA now) after switching from Psychology. I had similar aspirations as you as far as Psychedelics go, and Psychedelics were the main reason I became interested in Psychology.

Funny thing too is I've always just barely squeezed by in my classes and even fucked up a bunch in my college years ( took me 6 years to get my AA). However after an enlightening set of experiences (on LSD and mushrooms) I suddenly have this huge longing for knowledge especially in the sciences.

So my plan now is to get my Bachelor's and then either continue on to some sort of science field or move on to law.

It's so tough to choose what you want to do for the rest of your life and I've had to broaden my horizons a lot from a point of no interest to a point of interest in many things. Now the tough part for me is figuring out what I will truly love. Always lookin...
 
i think if you're intelligent and ambitious enough, you can find something that you love and still make a good amount of money. as a psychology major, there are a lot of jobs available to me, but thats not why i chose it. It's because i love learning about the human mind. I think enjoyment should outweigh salary in every case.
 
Because to most people a job is a job, and then you do what you want in your spare time. Having a well paying job enables you to spend your spare time doing whatever you are passionate about. Of course, some people are lucky enough to get a job doing something they love, but most aren't, so they better get a job that pays well.
 
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They are the kids that have ambition and do not waste their time with sentimental drivel and amorphous daydreams. The inane and glib 'do what you love!' exhortations never seem to come from the successful.

Those who invest the time and effort to get a degree with concomitant high salaries will always be in a better position, because, ceteris paribus, the money that they earn will greatly expand the range of things available to them. The set of options available to a person earning a high income encompasses, and extends greatly beyond that of someone who is not. For example, a grad earning $110k can decide 'fuck it', quit and become a teacher in a small town, but the inverse is not true.
 
mugen said:
They are the kids that have ambition and do not waste their time with sentimental drivel and amorphous daydreams. The inane and glib 'do what you love!' exhortations never seem to come from the successful.

Those who invest the time and effort to get a degree with concomitant high salaries will always be in a better position, because, ceteris paribus, the money that they earn will greatly expand the range of things available to them. The set of options available to a person earning a high income encompasses, and extends greatly beyond that of someone who is not. For example, a grad earning $110k can decide 'fuck it', quit and become a teacher in a small town, but the inverse is not true.
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You mean the CONVERSE is not true;)
 
materialism is the religion of the 21st century


I'm doing something I enjoy, and I'll probably end up fuckin poor because of it, but i really dont see money as that important. . .
 
AcidRain said:
materialism is the religion of the 21st century


I'm doing something I enjoy, and I'll probably end up fuckin poor because of it, but i really dont see money as that important. . .
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You're gonna see money really important when you take the place of the poor people in the South that were stuck there during Katrina. They had no money for their own transportation, a second home in another state, money for food, resources. The rich people got out the best they could, the poor....

"When you need it and don't have it, you sing a different tune".
 
Kilgore said:
You're gonna see money really important when you take the place of the poor people in the South that were stuck there during Katrina. They had no money for their own transportation, a second home in another state, money for food, resources. The rich people got out the best they could, the poor....

"When you need it and don't have it, you sing a different tune".
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I don't live in america. . I live in the lucky country ;)

besides i have filthy rich relo's and im an only child! (only grandchild even) :p
 
Lucky country? I moved here from another country and I love this place. Also, how is Australia lucky?

Well if you have filthy rich relatives then you don't have to worry about anything. You can be like my friends that don't have to work, ever. Families own million dollar companies, sooo yea.
 
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I was kind of shocked to discover that the cocaine sold in Australia is actually white sand from their own beaches.
 
They are the kids that have ambition and do not waste their time with sentimental drivel and amorphous daydreams. The inane and glib 'do what you love!' exhortations never seem to come from the successful.
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I disagree.

I have two uncles, one is a doctor the other a lawyer, and they both love their jobs. They love their jobs because they get to use their brain and be paid (well) for it.

If they made the same high salaries for answering telephones all day, they wouldn't say "I love my job" they would say, "I hate my job but I tolerate it because of the money."

You know, some people actually LIKE their high-salary jobs not just because of the money...
 
I'm one of those people that went into my field of study knowing I will never make much money. It sucks in some ways since I have a kid and need to provide for her but the fact is that I am doing what I love, and thats all that matters. I am going to school to be a teacher, and I KNOW teachers make crap in most areas of the US. I also know we are not as respected as we should be. But hey, I am passionate about teaching and that happiness overrules money. I will make enough to be comfortable, but will never make enough to be some super rich teacher that lives in a giant house with a fancy car.

But money does not matter to me... changing kids lives is worth more than any money ever given to me :)
 
LL said:

"My secret to success is very simple:

(1) Figure out what you love; and then

(2) Do it for a living."

-- George Burns, a helluva suceessful (albeit dead) man
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Beagle said:

I love sitting around enjoying the fact that I have nothing to do. It's not going to pay any bills though. That was a stupid quote. It's your typical example of the "right thing to say."

Anyway, salary influenced my decision on my major because my mom is broke. I'm not going to major in something that isn't going to make me any money.
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Poste:

I'm sorry that George Burns wasn't more clear.

I'll try to clarify, so you can understand:

(1) Figure out what you love to do OTHER THAN SITTING AROUND DOING NOTHING; and then

(2) Do it for a living.

Sorry George didn't add in the "OTHER THAN SITTING AROUND DOING NOTHING" part - I'm guessing he was speaking to a white audience.
 
L O V E L I F E said:
Poste:

I'm sorry that George Burns wasn't more clear.

I'll try to clarify, so you can understand:

(1) Figure out what you love to do OTHER THAN SITTING AROUND DOING NOTHING; and then

(2) Do it for a living.

Sorry George didn't add in the "OTHER THAN SITTING AROUND DOING NOTHING" part - I'm guessing he was speaking to a white audience.
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who in their right mind would want to sit around and do nothing, talk about boring.
the only time im sitting around is when i have run out of fun/productive things to do.
 
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