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Why is over coming addiction so hard for us?

You know why?

It's because life as a drug addict is terrible but life without drugs isn't so great either.
 
Wonderlandgrl,
Gabapentin will help take the edge off but it won't eliminate acute withdrawal.

There is still post acute to face, which can be the bigger challenge in the long run.

Consider exploring some professional support for that phase of your recovery. There is plenty of support here, but you should be prepared for some difficult weeks or months after the sickness subsides. A therapist well versed in addiction and recovery can be very helpful. Honesty is everything. It can be tempting to withhold the negative but rest assured, you can tell the truth, whatever you are going through.
 
You know why?

It's because life as a drug addict is terrible but life without drugs isn't so great either.

The scary truth... the very scary truth indeed..

None the less, I am pretty tired of going to jail every month and waking up in the morning sick to death, lol.
 
Yeah when your brain strongly links your drug use with 'positive result' (neglecting the fact that it's only a short term fix), it's hard to consciously find alternatives for relief and satisfaction. On top of that, I think often willpower gets weakened... which is like a muscle, and it withers away if you get satisfaction for a while without really having to use your willpower to struggle and achieve things. Ironally it doesn't really matter if you struggle all the same, only without achievements to show for it - securing your life, your relationships, etc..

I have a pretty low tolerance for frustration now, what I need is to turn it around and find some passionate inner power to want to work hard and overcome this.. And little by little, with the support I get for basic needs and quite frankly semi-luxurious comfort, I'm shifting my focus..

Next week I start a trial period at a fancy gym, to hopefully turn it into membership (not a year though, in case I cant really keep it up that long).. finding new appartment, intention and preparation to work on creative stuff again..
leaving drug related things behind me.
Things like exercise help with the willpower, also pushing the limit feels like achievement (and occasionally runners high lol) - creativity also for motivation, self-expression, joy and relief..

Cutting everything out, with a small bit of daily etizolam to spare.. That's going now, too - that would make me clean if you disregard my lyrica script.

Self-medicated with pretty much anything you can think of for years, from nootropics to psychedelics to recreational or narcotic drugs to just supplements.. it's been interesting and ranging from just very bad to beneficial. But I can't afford living like that, at least for a serious period of readjustment.
 
If its done right, MMT works really, really well. I had an obscene IV narcotic addiction -- it was horrendous -- and I was able to get off and, for the most part, stay off. That said, I was taking 380mg of methadone (a dose which elicits a lovely high), but it worked for me, and I was able to slowly get off.

Nonetheless, I am well aware that many MMT clinics are horrible.

Look -- another thing you could do would be to take some sort of alternative route. For instance, if you were determined and serious as cancer you could buy some readily available opioid (like tianeptine or perhaps an RC) and suspend it in an oral solution, then create a spreadsheet/calendar and wean yourself off. I've done this to get my way out of benzo addictions (as well as lesser opioid addictions). It can only work if you take it seriously.
 
Overcoming addiction is indeed one of the hardest things I've done and continue to do. After 2 years my works not over. After you've abused a substance long wnough, it makes the brain go haywire.

Your brain wants what your MIND KNOWS IS WRONG. This has everything to do with the brain and the continuous rape that drug abuse can cause to it. The good news is that your body is an incredible machine that can and will heal itself over time.

Patience is also a big thing. Think about an addict.... I know when I was an addict in had zero patience or tolerance. In a sense you have to overcome the "new" you" to overcome addiction and, in the process, will come out stronger than before these ever came into your life.

It also doesn't help that people who have never struggled with addiction directly like to sit on high horses and look down on you for something you can't help and that does not make you a bad person.

Addiction made me feel like a bad person, so I'd use that as an excuse to dose. So many factors make it hard to quit, but that's why we have places like this!
 
Wonderlandgrl,
Gabapentin will help take the edge off but it won't eliminate acute withdrawal.

There is still post acute to face, which can be the bigger challenge in the long run.

Consider exploring some professional support for that phase of your recovery. There is plenty of support here, but you should be prepared for some difficult weeks or months after the sickness subsides. A therapist well versed in addiction and recovery can be very helpful. Honesty is everything. It can be tempting to withhold the negative but rest assured, you can tell the truth, whatever you are going through.

Thank you. I have debated several times about going to an NA meeting to get local support. I am overwhelmed at the support, hope, and motivation bluelighters have responded with.
 
It all comes down to neurobiology. Over time your DOC starts to replace your brain's natural neurotransmitters because the brain no longer needs them. And other neurotransmitters are overused to counteract the effects of your DOC. It takes a long time for the balance to be restored, ergo PAWS. The way my psych doctor put it, it's a good news bad news scenario. The bad news is it can take up for seven years for the brain to revert back to a preaddicted state, but the good news is that the bulk of the healing takes place in the first year.
 
You can beat it w0w, trust me fam. It does take perserverence for sure. I sent you a PM//friend request. I live in NC too. Been sober for a quite some time now and will gladly offer and advise//consel I can. Keep us posted!
 
That's good to know - and I accepted your friend request!
Are you in NA? I have been to almost every single NA meeting thru out NC and may have bumped into in the past is why I am asking.
It's nice to have a helping hand in times of need and I was wondering what has helped you stay sober?
Ever since I moved to North Carolina about 8 years ago it has been a constant struggle staying clean.
I have literally been jumping city to city and now I am currently residing in the eastern nc region.
I have lived in Jacksonville, Wilmington, Raleigh, and now I am in Greenville.
No matter where I go though, I keep finding drugs.
Luckily since I have been in greenville, I have had only one provider per se with opiates and that bridge has been destroyed (happily),
but I know in a moment of weakness, if I end up coming up with some sort of 'hustle' or fair amount of money I may take that ride to
Wilmington or Raleigh and get that fix... I have been using suboxone (I only have one strip) for some WD relief but that will soon run out
and I am so scared that I will cave into my sickness and plot some way to get high. I do not want to, I really don't, but I dread withdrawals.
I also have earned myself a lovely benzo addiction too and I am trying to taper. I failed my drug test on probation before I moved to Greenville about a
week ago and so I know my new probation officer will be drug testing me as soon as I see her and I do not want to fail for benzos again.
I also went to court today and I was forced to plea guilty because the 'witness' that my lawyer said was sure not to come (because it was a big company and my charge was pity theft)
actually came. They gave me time served but now that I have been actually convicted that is a violation of my probation.
I am a nervous wreck right now and I do not know what to do. I do not want to spend 18 months sitting in a jail cell - but it's starting to look like that's going to happen.
I want to escape reality so bad but I know it will just hurt me in the long run and ruin any chances of not having to serve some time in jail.
Sorry about dumping this on you, it just helps to get these feelings off my chest.
Like said, the suboxone is helping me keeping me from being dope sick - but as soon as that runs out - which will be around tomorrow - I am scared that I might cave in and resort to trying to get high.
I feel hopeless and helpless, I just want these feelings to go away. I just want my life back. I just want to be normal. I do not want to go to jail for stupid mistakes I made due to me relapsing.
 
w0w, I really don't mean this to sound judgmental, but are you ready to concede now that geographic cures rarely work? I'm not as hardcore about AA as I used to be, but there's a phrase in the Big Book that reads, "Wherever you go, there you are." A new environment is not necessarily going to overcome the mental and emotional problems that led you to use in the first place. Despite the fallout from a toxic divorce (including court ordered group therapy because my ex wife told bald-faced lies to the judge to get a restraining order), a post-marriage relationship that did not end well, and a ruined career, I remain firmly planted here in Orlando.

I really hope you find your bottom soon, and that it isn't prison. I heard a guy in an AA meeting who said that after serving 18 years, he got on a Greyhound bus back to Orlando, spent the night at the Salvation Army, and the first thing he did was go into a downtown bar and get wasted. An extended period of abstinence courtesy of the justice system can well be meaningless, as this example illustrates. I've also known people whose bottoms, sadly, was death. For me, my bottom should have been any number of these: wrecking my marriage, wrecking my finances, wrecking my professional career, wrecking a wonderful post-marriage relationship, the list goes on and on. Instead, it was the doctor giving me bad news about the damage I've done to my health with alcohol and drugs. And it was a good thing, because I was maybe one step above homelessness when that happened. I probably would have ended up with said health problems AND be homeless if I didn't quit when I did. As it is now, I have this lovely pain in my side all day every day to remind me why I cannot drink or use.

I usually mentally roll my eyes when someone spews off a twelve step platitude, but think about this one, "All alcoholics and drug addicts eventually quit. Just depends on whether they're still alive when they do."
 
I also meant to ask, besides moving so often, what other changes have you made to your life? Just stopping using doesn't do it. You say you're attending NA meetings regularly but do you have a sponsor? Do you have people to call when cravings hit? Both of critical importance.

Twelve step actually has very little to do with stopping using and more to do with reinventing your life. There is a reason that step 12 states "we try to practice these principles in all our affairs."

That said, like I mentioned above, I'm not as hardcore about meeting attendance as I was in the past (now that I have a social network again, it's important to me to be around people who aren't as fucked up as I am) but AA/NA helped me to start climbing out of the very deep hole I had dug for myself in the beginning.
 
I've been struggling with my addiction and trying to get clean. I remember having a good life having money and having real friends. Its hard BC my bf is also addicted to opiates and he supports us both. I don't even work anymore. I used to think I had accomplished so much and was proud of who I grew up to be. Now I look around and I have nothing worthwhile in my life. I am a slave to my addiction and I don't know what it would take to.get clean. The withdrawal is so hard I always relapse on 3rd day never went longer than that

I just wanted to say my former g/f was in the same situation with me for about 3 years. I would support the two of us completely and she had depression and anxiety issues that made her quit every job she got in days for 3 years. She would try fail get very upset and i would try to make her happy. This cycle went on for 3 years until on my second time clean, was clean for a year and she was still using and i fully supported her understanding you cant force someone to do anything, she got on methadone with me. She was so nervous i had to take the day of from work to walk her through the intake process and support her. This was over a year ago now. My relapse was actually because i hated myself for being clean and living the same day over and over because of my situation i desperately wanted out so i did dope after 1 year off subs and just never stopped. Got worse then ever and had to go on methadone.

It has been over a month since she told me we cant be dating because she needs to regain her self. For years she was reliant on me and i only wanted her to be happy. When she said "i think we need to be friends" i was upset at first but realized quickly that i had accomplished my original goal, to turn her into a happy confident individual who could support herself and take on the world, the final step was literally turning to me and saying "i dont need you and i want to find out who i am, i still love you but we cant be dating as we are more like brother and sister now" like i said devastated at first but i am proud of who shes become.

My point is that she thought she lost herself, she would have suicidal tendencies at her worst and i would miss work to keep her from doing anything. It all changed because of methadone and it all changed in months, literally months. It was like all she needed was 1 thing to help her through part of it, now she wears her conquering heroin addiction like a badge of war she loves she was able to succeed where others struggle/fail and she wants to help people as no one thought she could come out of it as she did. I am truly amazed... and i have seen a lot. I know you can change yourself if you try, i now believe thanks to her, we can all change our destiny. I know its hard and seems impossible but i really think we are all capable of it and those who think they arent just dont know themselves enough to see it within them.
 
I would move but I am on probation and can not leave the state.
I am literally stuck.
Like said earlier, I may have to serve my jail sentence. 23 hour lock down for 18 months straight.
That will drive me into insanity.
 
I wish I knew the answer to this myself. I a going through such a rough time. I was clean 2 and a half years, had a daughter during that time. Started using again about 3 months ago and want to quit so bad every damn day. But I just feel so defeated by addiction, I feel like I don't have the strength to get clean again rght now so why bother? I am in so much pain and it is just so much easier not to feel it. I wish I didn't think this way.
 
TryingToGetBetter said:
It also doesn't help that people who have never struggled with addiction directly like to sit on high horses and look down on you for something you can't help and that does not make you a bad person.


Actually, I have to disagree. I've been having to attend court ordered group therapy for about the past five and a half months, and one of the most valuable lessons I've learned is that drugs and alcohol only make it easier to act on beliefs and ideas that are already in the back of your mind to begin with. Which is why I think twelve step programs are valuable because it teaches one to reflect on one's thoughts and behaviors and circumvent "character defects." When one is able to honestly reflect on how one's past thinking and behaviors negatively affected their interpersonal relationships, resentments evaporate, leading to greater peace of mind. "Anger is the dubious luxury of normal men." I think "the devil made me do it" mindset is counterproductive. Stopping using without reordering one's thinking, I believe, leads to dry drunk syndrome. You know the type - they're encountered all too often at twelve step meetings. Those bitter, unpleasant, unhappy, yet abstinent people that want to make everyone around them as miserable as they are.
 
What have you been charged with?

I caught another theft charge.
They gave me time served and I just have to pay court costs but
I am already on probation on multiple theft charges with a suspended sentence of 18 months in county jail.

I had to plea guilty from what my public defender told me because JCPenny's (the store I stole from) showed up and I would not win the case.
 
As much as it sucks that your public pretender pleaded you out, it sounds like you've been given another chance. Run with it.
 
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