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Why is drug use a thing of males!?

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I'd speculate that around 90% or so of all bluelighters will probably be male. Why?

We have these women's rights movements all over the world. But in the end, most girls like to pick the raisins and have some strong guy where they can lean on.. and all that shit. 90% of the people who get in jail are males too.

Is it about patriarchic society or what?
 
Good point , to be honest I think the males of our generation are females. So we sit online mostly women go and do shit with their life lol. Or your theory , as well as maybe females being scared to post where a lot of guys are ? Idk maybe females need more human to human contact while males don't care as much ? Idk
 
I wouldn't say drugs are used almost exclusively by males. I think it's more accepted to be male and to be seen using drugs. I've known many females who won't think twice about hitting the pipe but do not want to be seen doing so.

Also, females generally shy away from posting on a forum that's mostly male.
 
I think it has a lot to do with that (the patriarchic society part)

It's kind of weird but most female drug users don't really know much about drugs aside from the basic stuff, even the ones on bluelight (IME, there are obviously some exceptions).
 
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Males are more inclined towards drug use because of the risk-taking behaviours inherent in drug use and experimentation.
Or so some people say. I dunno, as i'm not really one for stereotypical gender roles, by any means.

I don't consider drugs to be a male thing at all (although drug use statistics and bluelight memberships probably do reflect what you're saying) but there honestly are probably a whole range of biological, environmental and social factors at play.
I definitely don't think there is just one reason, but many.

Wonder what the wonderful women of bluelight have to say about this?
 
spacejunk said:
I dunno, as i'm not really one for stereotypical gender roles, by any means.
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Yeah indeed, and all the psychedelic experience adds its own to the 'we-are-all-the-same-at-last' feeling ... but looking at the reality, it's just different. People want to be gender-different and live this.
 
I'm female and regularly post in OD which I'm thinking is mostly males, as far as other regulars.

Also I highly doubt this has anything to do with "the patriarchy" because if anything that would make women more inclined to use drugs. That being said, most other IV users I know are males.

Women are more likely to degrade themselves to get a fix though. I've been offered "free" drugs for a blowjob or a fuck... I'm sure it happens to men too but less often.
 
I've no doubt that men and women think and behave differently, but i've never really fit into masculine stereotypes, so on a personal level i can't really give much insight.
On a cultural level, I would probably say that the perception of women being more mature at a younger age probably has some truth to it, and this maturity and responsibility may mean young women are less inclined to get as intensely interested in drugs as a lot of guys do.
But having said that, i feel it's getting too far into the "unsubstantiated stereotypes" kind of observation, with very little to back it up.
It could just be that there are more pressures on women to stay in control (for reasons of personal safety, or to avoid social stigma) as opposed to guys, who are often met with a sort of "boys will be boys" attitude to getting wasted - which again is sort of that cultural acceptance of male risk taking.

So in that sense i think there is definitely a role played by patriarchy.
But it's unlikely to be that simple, at least to my mind.

Really though, so much of this discussion could be around that old dualism;

Nature / Nurture

(and i'm convinced it is usually a combination of both, to varying degrees)
 
spacejunk said:
I've no doubt that men and women think and behave differently, but i've never really fit into masculine stereotypes, so on a personal level i can't really give much insight.
On a cultural level, I would probably say that the perception of women being more mature at a younger age probably has some truth to it, and this maturity and responsibility may mean young women are less inclined to get as intensely interested in drugs as a lot of guys do.
But having said that, i feel it's getting too far into the "unsubstantiated stereotypes" kind of observation, with very little to back it up.
It could just be that there are more pressures on women to stay in control (for safety, or to avoid social stigma) as opposed to guys (who are often met with a sort of "boys will be boys" attitude to getting wasted).

Really though, so much of this discussion could be around that old dualism;

Nature / Nurture

(and i'm convinced it is usually a combination of both, to varying degrees)
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I think you're right about this. However, the maturity thing might not really play a role as much as the social stigma. It's considered "unladylike" to use drugs, smoke, drink, and destroy your body. Using drugs can and will make you look like shit and women generally care a lot more about their appearance than men due to societal expectations of feminine beauty. Not saying that men don't care at all because that's not true.

Plenty of my girlfriends say they would never do half the shit I do because they don't want track marks and shit on their skin, wrinkles and yellow teeth from smoking cigs/weed, or the sickly dead-eyed look many addicts have.
 
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males use more drugs than females but females also use a lot of drugs, its just males tend to post more on the internet. ive been on other forums not drug related and its always more males than females. i dont really understand why.
 
Separate questions here. One is related to related to presence of women on internet message boards, the other is the prevalence of women drug users.

For the first one, studies have shown that men and women use the internet at relatively equal rates, however they use the internet for different purposes. Message boards are predominantly male, generally speaking. If you were to go unto a message board dedicated to another topic like politics it would probably be even more heavily skewed. I don't know why this is and it doesn't really interest me as a topic.

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The second topic, why women don't use drugs as much as men, is more interesting. Personally I think that women enjoy drugs just as much as men do, there's no reason to think otherwise. But yeah, there is a significant bias against female drug users, it's been shown even against women who smoke cannabis and weed is one of the most benign/socially accepted illegal drugs out there.
 
Honestly I think the whole risk-seeking behaviour stuff is shit and doesn't apply. It's more about social stigma, preconceptions, sensibility and all that. Maturity, of course, but I know of far too much girls who were older than me and I'd really not call 'mature' - no offence intended! I'm absolutely not the average stereotypical male, admitted I have this over-sensitivity / para-asperger shit that very probably lead to all the drug use in the end. The majority of friends I made were females, but as the nature of this is, it eventually becomes more and more difficult (not necessarily because of me - regarding these points, I'm quite un-complicated. At least something. ;))

But the points about message boards, internet use etc. are really true and interesting!

These girls who were drug users, all - really - had a much worse risk seeking and taking profile than me. I'm differing from any drug users I know of (in reality at least) in these points that I'm really interested and curious about the matter and science, and hate to get fucked up or socialise with such people ... nobody's free of making mistakes of course, I have done mine too, but well.. you know what I'm trying to say.

But it's dazzling to remember these stories (okay, they were heroin users, one an ex-addict, the other- a classmate, I found it out accidentally- still active) of careless living, emotional rollercoasters, borderline personality, prostitution and all that. One day I had some catatonic girl lying on my couch because I failed to hide my MXE stash enough and she, used to bad cut shit that's always 'the best pure heroin in town', took a huge line ... there I really feared of her life. Luckily it was a dissociative and not some fuckin' opioid.

It's strange but somehow quite a few of drug users seem to live a bit in their own reality. Everyone sees his use as more or less responsible, even if they're blacking out every second day and there are more burn holes than actual duvet cover on their bed. Sorry if I'm ranting. Stuff like that made me not to socialise any more with drug users in real life.

SluttyPeach said:
Women are more likely to degrade themselves to get a fix though. I've been offered "free" drugs for a blowjob or a fuck... I'm sure it happens to men too but less often.
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This is a crazy fact of society too. There are men probably who do this too, but then both parties are males. No woman wants to hook up with a fucked up guy ever, but many men do this all over the way ...

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I know a lot of women who use drugs; but they don't go on internet forums and post about it, since they're too busy using drugs, or working to get money to budget some to save to buy drugs.
 
The "risk taking" concept is more than simply "males are wired to take risks".
It is also "men are encouraged to take risks" and "women are often stigmatised for taking the same risks".
It is one element of a wider perspective, i think.

I know plenty of women that take drugs. I also know plenty of women that post on bluelight.
This place has the vibe of some kind of boys' club at times, but the site owes a great deal to the women of bluelight.
Some forums (not naming any names) have cringingly masculine cultures.
 
spacejunk said:
Some forums (not naming any names) have cringingly masculine cultures.
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Anyone who's really bored (or interested in human abysses) should look into some pick-up artist community board once. It's just golden!

No, really disturbing too. But it's a hard reality - people are actually believing in this shit, paying to listen lectures where they 'learn' how to be a 'true male' and all that ..
 
Are any of you women? Or am I the only one who has posted in this thread so far?

Lol. Need another female to back me up here.. Sure, women use drugs as much as men do on average but in some places women are shamed/stigmatized for it more.

"She uses drugs, she's an unfit mother"

"What a slut! I heard she has sex for crack"

"Can you believe she uses needles? Disgusting! Her husband should leave her"

Of course this isn't a deterrent for all women but for some it really is. Not to mention women get addicted to drugs/alcohol more easily due to physiological differences, so on the flip side.. Women might use drugs even more than men if it weren't for this.

Also, the post I made concerning how they don't want addiction to ruin their looks. I'm not pulling this stuff out of my ass.. It came straight from the mouths of women who do not use drugs.
 
You are not alone peach, ive got nothing to add particularly, although Ive never been a polished princess type of girl and maybe this relates to my drug use. Interesting post op, do you have any stats to link with this thread re: male v female drug use figures?
 
Testosterone promotes natural risk taking behavior which may be why more men dabble in drugs than women. More men partake in sports too, even when there's equal opportunity. More men do dare devil stuff like sky dive, rock climb, and bungee jump. Basically anything that involves potential injury or death but could be fun, men do it more than women.

Socially speaking, men have to repress more of their emotions, and for those who become addicts, drugs provide a relief valve to troubled feelings. You can only feel like total shit for so long without telling anyone before you resort to drastic measures. That's just a theory though, I don't actually know.
 
I don't know WHY but definitely most of the people who I associate with that use drugs are male. There are some females for sure but mostly male.
 
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