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Why is depression never touched upon with opiate addicts

bdomihizayka

bdomihizayka

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Something I never see talked about alot with opiate addicts is depression. I was only an addict for a few months, but it was ultimately the depression that lead me to quit. I never experienced a bad opiate withdrawal physically, but even now, unaddicted, if I take any opiate, it throws me off a few days and throws me into a deep depression when it wears off.

The depression is hard to explain. It's like I have no energy, and I want to do nothing all day, just stare at the wall. I want to talk to nobody, I don't want to listen to music or play guitar or workout or even have sex or masturbate. Nothing gives me pleasure. I am coming off of suboxone after a couple months use and the suboxone made me suicidally depressed at the end with massive headaches so I had to stop.... and I've been off a couple weeks and still have no interest in anything.

I never suffered depression in my life before opiates were introduced. NEVER. I know it has to be from using, but when does it give up? I am comatose... I have to do shit, but in this state I am unable to work or even continue with school.... I don't even want to leave my house for fear of being dragged into conversation in which I have no interest in having. Can anyone relate at all?? I feel throwing antidepressants in my brain will just delay healing that has to be done anway.

Most people make opiate addiction to be ended by a one week withdrawal and all is well.... I find this hardly the case...
 
Recovery for some people are different. I am an example of one of a few sufferers of what supposedly an mdma comedown and I have triggered an anxiety that I was in denial for months. This might be the case for you, you might have triggered a depression but with time and abstinence should correct itself. I know this not an easy thing to do but you have to learn to cope with it and fight it. I'd like to tell you that I actually just got diagnosed today with anxiety and I'm starting to accept the fact thar I have to be more patient and deal with it Is there a chance that you can go back to your doctor to see other options you can do?
 
I see a couple doctors...they just want to give me antidepressants and like I said, I think my brain has to heal and I don't want to throw any variables in there at this point. I had anxiety all my life, I know it sucks, I'm sorry you went through all that....my advice for that would be stay far away from benzos unless you do a very slow taper with valium....and even with that, that was the worst withdrawal of my life, probably worse than this, and lasted nearly a year with PAWs but I forgot how that felt and am just dealing with the moment so ehh. Thanks for the reply!
 
It sucks that there isn't a wonder drug that could fix us in one shot. My doctor didn't prescribe any medication for me and thank god he didn't! I hope you feel better soon, lets fight this together :)
 
Something I never see talked about alot with opiate addicts is depression.
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It's talked about an awful lot here. Every recovery place I've been in has talked about depression to some extent too. I don't think opiate addiction causes depression necessarily - I've had relatives come off high doses of narcotics because they didn't like the way it made them feel, and besides the immediate w/d they suffered no PAWS.


I never suffered depression in my life before opiates were introduced. NEVER
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What age did you encounter opiates?

I think opiates fill a void in some of us we didn't even know was there...that's why some people in recovery talk about their addiction as the best thing that ever happened to them - the thing that woke them up. I really want to be one of those guys one day.
 
buffalobillygoat said:
I think opiates fill a void in some of us we didn't even know was there...that's why some people in recovery talk about their addiction as the best thing that ever happened to them - the thing that woke them up. I really want to be one of those guys one day.
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I agree with this.

Like many, I was prescribed opiates for a legitimate reason. But soon after I discovered the effect they had on me psychologically as well as physically, I fell in love. It filled a lot of different voids in my life. I was suffering from depression, anxiety, physical pain- hell, they even filled the void of my shitty relationship because I felt unloved. Opiates didn't talk back, they were always there when I needed them- they were like the friend that I never had that gave me everything. Sounds great, right? Well at first it was. At first it was my escape. However, I soon started to realize that I was losing almost everything around me that I had. I was isolating myself from friends, family, I was slacking in school, I was always tired, and because of that I was getting depressed. That was one of my many motivators to stop.
 
Captain.Heroin said:
You got to start living life again. Even if you don't want to engage in the aforementioned activities, just do it: and know that know one day it'll feel good again to do these things.
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QFT.. depression induced behavior or thought creates more or deeper depression..I would look at the underlying thinking that both is caused and causes depression. >Managing Depressive Thinking< One of the best cures for lack of energy is exercise.. go figure right. I would try and institute a daily exercise program, and the more you dont or think you can exercise the more you should. >here< >here< >here<

hope this helps<3
 
For me that is not depression, that is just pure energy. The opium supplies the energy, a flow of amazing positive energy like crack (I am assuming), a total so called 'wonder drug.' When you don't have it anymore than all the energy is taken away, you can no longer even face the normal obstacles of the day. In my case and others we have had to take opiates in bed just to get up in the morning because at that point your receptors are working completely from the energy of the opium.

You will hear people say that they cry for no reason when stopping - feeling a deep sadness. This depression is specifically because your mind body and soul misses the opium. You want the feeling back so much that your unconscious soul will have you cry about it all day in bed. You are crying just because that is how much you enjoyed being on opium. When it happened to me I had specific reasons for crying that I eventually picked up on, and all they were down to the root cause of it were memories. it is your conscious mind and unconscious mind remembering the effects from this plant.
 
opaite addicits don'toften talk about their depression because worst case you're something as simple as a chocolate bar and a cigarette (that is if you are on maintenece) away from bliss.I did 10 months in a halfway house and everyone on the bupe/done were almost always chill and happy. The creakheads and the alcohlics (no methheads or RC's, thie was realy 2000ish NWE coast) where the worst people to be around.

So posibiy by ther nature of the meds, or the batshit crazyness of thier peers.

granted a candy bar and a smoke aren't always heathly but they work every time,and may only be a bandage. but who can resist a milkeshake and cigarette which is what like gonna take off %.0001 life expetion? vs being drepressed longterm we're seriously talking %20-30%





^^^^more advice that I'll never follow. Gettign back on bupe sunday,so where is the the cool spot where the sober people hang? bedises the obvious threards,any sober ladies lives out there I can destoy with poor excuse for sex,,OR save? or save each other, destroy each other and repreat,


then again loniless,chocolate bars abd naybe an occational LSD trip should countt as sober IMHO
 
To the OP, i feel the exact same way right now...I'm on my 6th week off of Suboxone...Was on it for 6 months, and still feeling cravings and, more so, depression...I find music to be the ultimate mood lifter, but I've always been very into music so this may not work for everyone. Also being around my daughter just makes me not even think about the cravings or depression at all...Oh and occasional drinking always lifts my mood :D
 
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