Please read my post again but this time, actually understand it. I aint mad that you straight up, totally misunderstood me, but it is a lil bit funny to me that you could get such a completely opposite idea from the shit i said. I aint sure if you sayin that I was sayin our society aint racist? Or did u mean that at somebody else?? Becuz I sure as hell NEVER said, or even hinted at sayin, that racism aint here or that pointin out the racism that exist is racist somehow. thats fuckin retarded yo--how could it be racist to say, hey, we got a problem here. its the ones that is trying to DENY that theres a problem, and act like everybody got a totally equal chance, that is the real ones with the bias here. Its just straight up blowin my mind how you could possibly think that I was denyin that there a problem with racism in the US???
Iunno yo, but its obvious u didnt really read too deep into the shit I said. How could u possibly get the idea that I was sayin racism dont exist? My entire POINT was that the OP WAS bein racist by makin assumptions that aint got nothing to do with reality... Listen tho. I want to explain u my post a litle better. Starting with when u corrected my statistics--You right, I got those wrong, but heres why. If you dont mind takin a minute to read my explanation, I think you would understand better where I was comin from, and that it definatly wasnt becuz I just felt like repeatin lies.
I have read lots of times , on BL here even in our drugs in the media forum, about statistics for drugs by race, and thats where I was speakin from. I didnt just "make shit up". I have read many times statistics that says theres more whites than blacks in jail for drugs as far as ACTUAL NUMBERS, but that the amount of black drug offenders in jail compared to the rates of blacks who actually uses drugs is much higher, etc.
I been readin on this site for shit, almost 10 years now, and a whole lotta articles about the numbers of white vs black drug users has been on here in that time. And they all full of statistics that might say one thing but mean another and that was the info I had in my head when I made my post. I went on google for a few minutes, wantin to get back up, to make sure I was remembering it right becuz I always do that when it comes to this kinda shit, but it was like I couldnt get a straight answer. It was never yes or no, more or less numbers, it was always "percentage of how likely" or "ratios compared to population" or fuckin watever. So, I put down the info I had remembered the best way that I had understood it. Which was "while a larger % of the black popultion is locked up than the % of the white population that is locked up, the actual number of white ppl is larger than the number of black ppl." Kinda like the electorial college. you know, how ther can be more votes for one candidate on paper just by number of votes, but the other one can still win cuz the way they count it is fucked up. And they do that same shit with statistics sometimes.
So without goin on, my point is that, Ive read so much conflicting statistics, and statistics are so easy to twist around and make them look like they mean somethin else than they really mean. i aint sayin YOU doing that but that I am sayin that its hard for me to understand them sometimes. the way that the statistics gets reported can distort the meaning. instead of , here is the number for each group, which is higer. Its "here is the percent of each population, here is the ratio of how likely, here is the rates of percentage of how much more common it is for this race to get arrested, this is how many more times likely based on the percentage of the population that is locked up compared to the percentage of the population in another race"....Shit that honestly, confuses me.
How since there is less black folks than white in US, that means that while blacks are still way more likly to get locked up than whites, it could still be possible to not have a majority when it comes to the actual number. Like,
say there is 228 million white ppl, and 38 million black ppl in the US. if 10 million black ppl is locked up, then that is like almost 25% of the population. if there was 20 million white ppl locked up, thats only like 10% of the population. So, even if there was more white ppl locked up than black ppl by the NUMBERS, there would still be a larger PERCENTAGE of black ppl locked up than white ppl. U see wat I mean? Why its so easy to misunderstand?
And real talk--I aint afraid to be wrong, fully admit that I was wrong, but Ill tell you why straight up. And make fun of me if you want to, I dont care, cuz Im just tryin to tell u the truth.
I didnt graduate from high school. I got a 9th grade education. I didnt pass math in the 9th grade, and the highest I ever got that I completed, was Pre Algebra. Its easy to confuse me when it comes to numbers and statistics. I can do math in my head when it comes to grams and ounces and prices per milligram like a genius, but I sure as hell dont understand how the "percentage of how likely it is for a black male to be locked up compared to the percentage of likelyhood for a white male to be locked up" actually relates to the actual, REAL, number of each race locked up. And it just gets me so confused, like I aint able to tell how all that "likely' and "percentage" and "ratio based on population" really all fits in to finding out the actual black and white number, the straight up population. If i could just see numbers, "this is the number of black ppl locked up for drugs. This is the number of white ppl locked up for drugs." but they always make it be by these other ways , and it just gets me spinned around until I aint sure exactly the meaning. And thats how I believed that there was more white ppl in jail for drugs than blacks. I thought that, yes, 1/4 or 1/3rd of black males is locked up for drug offenses, and only 1/10thth (or something, no idea, just making that last one up) of white ppl is locked up for drug offense. BUT, becuz there is so much more white ppl than black, that 1/10th of white ppl could actually be a larger NUMBER of ppl than the 1/4th of black ppl. You feel me? Do you get where I was comin from now?
So, Im sorry, Im embarrased that I didnt get a great math education. I apologize for saying a wrong statistic. And I can totally admit that, it aint no thing. So my statistic was probably wrong....--
BUT...number one, That absolutely DONT mean that I believe there aint no racism in our socitey! Kid, I LIVED in the hood, i GREW UP with ppl of all races, bein white I been a minority in where Ive lived at all these years and I seen the racism and lies from a first hand basis, I KNOW how fucked up it is in the hood becuz it was my life and i know how the deck is stacked against you when you grow up in poverty and even more especially when you black. and number two--It dont mean that there is more black crack smokers, just becuz black folks is mor elikely to get locked up for drugs!
For sure--Black folks get hit with harder charges,, they get charged with more offenses, they get longer sentences, compared to the same crime a white person does. This is all straightup fact.
but it DONT MEAN that there is more black crack smokers than white, you just cant get that out of those stats. I dont understand how a person can see, hey, black ppl get arrested for drugs more than white folks does, as meaning that crack is a "black' drug. all it means is that they is getting picked on more for doing the same thing--not that they actually doin it more.
there IS more white drug users, period.....And while more black men is locked up for CRACK , that dont mean ther eis more black crack smokers...when you in the hood, you aint got no job, you aint got no money and you got a kid on the way or you just need the cash, and you figure u just gonna do a little flippin here an there, you can choose, crack or dope. So , lots of ppl choose crack. Its crack arrests, ppl selling the shit, it aint like there is this huge army of black crackheads. It just aint true yo. and the original poster is the one being racist by looking at a reality which is that there is far more white drug users than black--and still seeing the opposite reality, where the black users is the ones with higher numbers.
Think about it.
If 1% of 228 million ppl smokes crack, that is 2.28 million. If 1% of 38 million ppl smokes crack, then that is 380,000 (i think--0.38 million is 380,000, right.)
So, if one percent of black ppl, and one percent of white ppl smoked crack, there is still more white users by number than black users.
Even if you say, Well, only so and so percent of white ppl smoke, and the percentage of black ppl who smokes is higher, that will still most likely end you up with STILL havin more white ppl smokers. Even if 5% of black folks smoked base, that would be 1.9 million people....You feel me? And i dont think that 5% of black folks is smokin base. So you see...Even if the percentage is higher when you compare, the actual number dont reflect that....And nobody even posted no statistics of the percent of black or white ppl that smokes base. I guarantee you there would be more white than black crack smokers. Thats my guess tho.
My poin is just that the original poster is talkin about how more blacks smoke crack than whites, but they just dont. The stereotyped idea is that a crackhead is black. So people have the image of a black crackhead in their mind. Every time they see a black crackhead, it supports that stereotype and make it stronger. They notice it more cuz it fits with their idea, meanwhile they might see and forget a white crackhead. They might see a white homeless guy and not think he a feen, but a black homeless guy , they assume he a feen even if they dont even know.
When the original poster says there is more black than white crack users ,he aint speakin from the actual reality of things, he speakin from his stereotyped ideas. When he can keep those stereotypes evne tho the reality is different, and believe that his stereotype is the reality then that is racism right there. When you assume somebody of a certain race to be a certain way cuz of ur pre judgement, there is racism, whether its some intentional, malicios shit, or just a bias that you dont realize you got.
I could go on, but Ima save the rest for later, this post long enough already, so I aint tryna make this into a book, but real talk....hopefully at least that makes u understand better wat i was sayin.
