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Why do you roll?
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Tbh, I don't even really know where the term rolling came from (don't feel like looking it up, be my guest), but what I am confident about is that it doesn't refer to the eyes rolling/nystagmus.
What I do know is that if you're on mdma and you get a bomb ass lightshow, your eyes will possibly be rolling to the back of your head, lol.
So maybe they are related?
As to why, all I can say is that generally 5ht2a agonism modulates a lot of body functions, including nystagmus, bruxism and everything else on the list. Then you'd probably have to question the role of serotonin and 5ht2a agonism, so yeah.
What I do know is that if you're on mdma and you get a bomb ass lightshow, your eyes will possibly be rolling to the back of your head, lol.
So maybe they are related?
As to why, all I can say is that generally 5ht2a agonism modulates a lot of body functions, including nystagmus, bruxism and everything else on the list. Then you'd probably have to question the role of serotonin and 5ht2a agonism, so yeah.
I used to love rolling! Sadly it stopped working on me.. It got to the point where one pill would have my crew sittin pretty but I would get hot flashes for 30 min and poof? nothing... would dissappear ?. I used to do it like every other night though so maybe it was a good thing.
But to answer your *?* it felt like heaven. It made me the happiest person in the world. ? Except that one time I let some dealer convince me that rolling for 3 days straight would be fine. I thought she was going to die for a week after that. Don't chase that high.
But to answer your *?* it felt like heaven. It made me the happiest person in the world. ? Except that one time I let some dealer convince me that rolling for 3 days straight would be fine. I thought she was going to die for a week after that. Don't chase that high.
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Thewhitenugget
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I get the eye rolling at the exact moment when I get a 'wave' of pleasure... Don't know the science of it but for me I've always thought its your body not knowing how to handle it and so just going crazy! People always ask if I'm ok because I guess it's pretty scary, little do they know... ?
Haha, just so you know, your eyes aren't literally rolling around even with crazy nystagmus. It seems like it from the user's point of view, but other people wouldn't be able to see it. The only way it's noticeable to others is when you get that individual to move their eyes from left to right, and it'll kind of stagger when it moves in either direction.
But yeah, it is a sure fire sign you are feeling mdma's effects. It's simply that the 5ht2a receptor controls specific body functions, and your eye movement is one of those.
But yeah, it is a sure fire sign you are feeling mdma's effects. It's simply that the 5ht2a receptor controls specific body functions, and your eye movement is one of those.
BlueBull
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If you are ever around someone that took a high dose, watch their eyes closely, it's not only from their point of view, their eyes are literally and very noticeably vibrating. Saw this multiple times when I was sober around people that were rolling. But it's only really noticeable with higher doses (+180mg or something)
In MY EXPERIENCE personally, my eyes go crazy when I'm peaking on MDMA.
and I have to say, "roll" is the best word to describe this phenomena.
Out of my friends I am the only one who's experienced this real "roll". Their eyes, at best, would shake.
I wonder if my lazy eye has anything to do with it.
Adderall, I know, makes my lazy eye stand out x10..
and I have to say, "roll" is the best word to describe this phenomena.
Out of my friends I am the only one who's experienced this real "roll". Their eyes, at best, would shake.
I wonder if my lazy eye has anything to do with it.
Adderall, I know, makes my lazy eye stand out x10..
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Haha, oh yeah, I know what you mean. It really does vibrate slightly, and that's with crazy nystagmus. I was just trying to clarify that one's eyes isn't rolling from one end to the other at all. That's kind of what I thought the poster was inferring.
I would also think that would be extremely damaging to the eyes, right? I mean, if it was going around like a chameleon's eyes. I wish I was on my iPad or laptop, so I can input that purple emoji face with the eyes rolling in circles.
Draven26
Bluelighter
Hahaha I still remember my first rave.. the first pills I ever took were green motorolas! I took 2 and 45 minutes later I had my shirt off and dancing with a bunch of cute raver chicks and we took a bunch of pictures on the dance floor but when I went onto the website the next day and checked out the photos from the site I looked so fucked up! Haha my eyes were blacked out and I looked like I was having a good roll that night hahaha first rave was the best! I remember chewing on God knows how many pieces of gum that night lol the shit that I had was definitely mixed with meth but that's how I love my E pills.. a little bit of MDMA and Meth and I'm good for the night!
PotatoMan
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lol my guess would be from the eye rolling effect. it just seems to fit well with the term rolling.
my eyes go ABSOLUTELY insane. they roll. i look like i'm mentally not there when rolling hard. i'm talking 200mg.
in the past i've taken 100mg and .075/.080mg and the eye roll would come in waves. but generally had a very 'wiggly, wobbly, rolly, relaxed' feeling.
but as BlueBull said, IME it has also been noticeable on the higher doses quite consistently. just 2 nights ago i was walking thru miami and some people were like wtf. i swear this shit makes you look stupid brah lol
my eyes go ABSOLUTELY insane. they roll. i look like i'm mentally not there when rolling hard. i'm talking 200mg.
in the past i've taken 100mg and .075/.080mg and the eye roll would come in waves. but generally had a very 'wiggly, wobbly, rolly, relaxed' feeling.
but as BlueBull said, IME it has also been noticeable on the higher doses quite consistently. just 2 nights ago i was walking thru miami and some people were like wtf. i swear this shit makes you look stupid brah lol
Waha, I guess it is highly dependent on the person.
I remember on one of my 5 mapb trips at about 200mg, and I was experiencing nystagmus at least 5x harder than any mdma trip I've ever had. So I asked my gf, "Hey, how do my eyes look? Aren't they moving like crazy?" And my gf was like, "No, I don't see anything." So I was like, "Wtf?"
It does vibrate and move ever so slightly though, so of course I'd concede that. lol, and yeah if you're toasted, then people will certainly be rolling face. It ain't always pretty.
I remember on one of my 5 mapb trips at about 200mg, and I was experiencing nystagmus at least 5x harder than any mdma trip I've ever had. So I asked my gf, "Hey, how do my eyes look? Aren't they moving like crazy?" And my gf was like, "No, I don't see anything." So I was like, "Wtf?"
It does vibrate and move ever so slightly though, so of course I'd concede that. lol, and yeah if you're toasted, then people will certainly be rolling face. It ain't always pretty.
Hmm, I'm talking as someone who has rolled many hundreds of times, and chilled with many who rolled as well, so I don't particularly believe that. It's my opinion and belief, so I'm going to stick with it.
It also depends on what you mean by the "eyes rolling." How much, and to what extent? Myself and BlueBull were the only ones who were descriptive enough in detail about how much it "rolls." Nystagmus is uncontrollable on mdma; you can definitely "roll" your eyes around yourself if that's what you mean, but that isn't nystagmus.
Idk, my real life experiences can't buy the "eyes rolling from one side to the other, and/or in circles" bs. I also have feeling, whoever you are, if you REALLY rolled, you wouldn't be touting that either. -_-
Edit: Also, just think about it. How would anyone be able to see where they are or where they're going? If the eyes were rollingn around like that, the ground would be a fucking whirlpool! I've been to many raves, and I've never seen it like people are moping around and just running into each other everywhere, because that's what would happen. Even with the eyes BARELY vibrating aka nystagmus, shit is already difficult to see straight/correctly.
I'm sorry, I just extremely dislike people who try to imply that I'm wrong when I have such a vast experience with mdma. I'm not infallible with everything; but something as simple as this, it's almost impossible to say that I'm wrong given my reasoning, experiences and as well as others, especially when I get the feeling people who say this haven't ever rolled before. Wouldn't you find that annoying too? Tell me what you think.
It also depends on what you mean by the "eyes rolling." How much, and to what extent? Myself and BlueBull were the only ones who were descriptive enough in detail about how much it "rolls." Nystagmus is uncontrollable on mdma; you can definitely "roll" your eyes around yourself if that's what you mean, but that isn't nystagmus.
Idk, my real life experiences can't buy the "eyes rolling from one side to the other, and/or in circles" bs. I also have feeling, whoever you are, if you REALLY rolled, you wouldn't be touting that either. -_-
Edit: Also, just think about it. How would anyone be able to see where they are or where they're going? If the eyes were rollingn around like that, the ground would be a fucking whirlpool! I've been to many raves, and I've never seen it like people are moping around and just running into each other everywhere, because that's what would happen. Even with the eyes BARELY vibrating aka nystagmus, shit is already difficult to see straight/correctly.
I'm sorry, I just extremely dislike people who try to imply that I'm wrong when I have such a vast experience with mdma. I'm not infallible with everything; but something as simple as this, it's almost impossible to say that I'm wrong given my reasoning, experiences and as well as others, especially when I get the feeling people who say this haven't ever rolled before. Wouldn't you find that annoying too? Tell me what you think.
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Edit 2: Another thing is that I think you'd benefit from mdma if you really used it. True empathy is indiscriminate; it's not selective, although you can concentrate it on certain individuals more than others, but if one really is, then they'd feel it even towards their worst enemies who have done nothing but try to bring destruction to you. You don't seem to have that, and I'm not stupid or naive enough to believe you're a different user than you pretend to be. I just have no idea exactly who you are, but I am ALWAYS going to fiercely defend myself when I am targeted. Be mindful of that.
Wait, how did I target you?!?! I agreed with and re-stated what YOU said: "I guess it is highly dependent on the person" ...then I just said I was glad someone else posted their "eye roll" experience (bc it showed me I'm not the only one)
My post was not REMOTELY negative or 'targeting'.
You, though, are attacking me and accusing me of lying!!!?
I would love to know why ANYONE would lie about using MDMA, especially* someone who would lie just so they could reply to this thread....to post their eye rolling experience. Really??? What kind of sense does that make?!??
My post was not REMOTELY negative or 'targeting'.
You, though, are attacking me and accusing me of lying!!!?
I would love to know why ANYONE would lie about using MDMA, especially* someone who would lie just so they could reply to this thread....to post their eye rolling experience. Really??? What kind of sense does that make?!??
It's funny because you avoided the questions you couldn't answer. Good job, but I didn't miss it.
You literally pointed up, so how is that not targeting? And then you literally laughed about it. How is that not disrespectful?
Of course I said it's highly dependent on the person, but again, nystagmus dude! The strength of that will definitely be different from user to user, NOT the eyes rolling around in circles bullshit. That straight up does not happen.
You are pretty twisted in the mind. I never said it was negative, AND I'll lay it down for you then, since you are asking for it; people lie, dude, people lie all the damn time. For whatever reason, this goes hand in hand with GLers who haven't established themselves as trustworthy. Not all of them, but a lot of them. And going by your attitude, you definitely fit the mold.
For example, back on topic, why don't you explain how the "eye roll" is like exactly? Why didn't you even answer that? Because it's obvious! You don't know how to. And then now you'll just come with just some standard, BL or Google answer and come back with it. I bet you a huge sum of money you won't find any proof that the eyes "go crazy" like you are suggesting.
It makes a lot more sense than you think, and if you can't see that then there's nothing more to say. More than likely, I have the backing of millions of other users who may read this. What do you have?
Edit: Read the post you were referring to over again, since you didn't seem to understand it in the first place. It's unedited.
You literally pointed up, so how is that not targeting? And then you literally laughed about it. How is that not disrespectful?
Of course I said it's highly dependent on the person, but again, nystagmus dude! The strength of that will definitely be different from user to user, NOT the eyes rolling around in circles bullshit. That straight up does not happen.
You are pretty twisted in the mind. I never said it was negative, AND I'll lay it down for you then, since you are asking for it; people lie, dude, people lie all the damn time. For whatever reason, this goes hand in hand with GLers who haven't established themselves as trustworthy. Not all of them, but a lot of them. And going by your attitude, you definitely fit the mold.
For example, back on topic, why don't you explain how the "eye roll" is like exactly? Why didn't you even answer that? Because it's obvious! You don't know how to. And then now you'll just come with just some standard, BL or Google answer and come back with it. I bet you a huge sum of money you won't find any proof that the eyes "go crazy" like you are suggesting.
It makes a lot more sense than you think, and if you can't see that then there's nothing more to say. More than likely, I have the backing of millions of other users who may read this. What do you have?
Edit: Read the post you were referring to over again, since you didn't seem to understand it in the first place. It's unedited.
You completely misread my response... I use 'haha' and 'lol' all the time, out of habit, sometimes more than I should. Definitely wasn't laughing at you. I use the arrow ^ when I'm responding to the post above mine. I never thought of it as disrespectful. I'm sorry it offended you. and I'm sorry my experience differs from yours, but it doesn't make it any less 'valid'.
Weird you responded so cheerfully to Blank, considering their post was pretty similar to mine in terms of what you're attacking me for. (they also used "lol" and said their eyes rolled)
Honestly, I'm a little curious about the 'millions of other users' who have your back on this one... I don't pick fights with people on this forum and I don't insult anyone here, either. You are making personal digs at my CHARACTER.
You don't even know me, but for some reason you think it's logical to assume I'm twisted in the mind, have no MDMA experience, and that I'm an untrustworthy liar. I haven't posted on here as much as you, but that doesn't mean I am any less worthy of respect. I'm honestly just stunned reading your posts.
Weird you responded so cheerfully to Blank, considering their post was pretty similar to mine in terms of what you're attacking me for. (they also used "lol" and said their eyes rolled)
Honestly, I'm a little curious about the 'millions of other users' who have your back on this one... I don't pick fights with people on this forum and I don't insult anyone here, either. You are making personal digs at my CHARACTER.
You don't even know me, but for some reason you think it's logical to assume I'm twisted in the mind, have no MDMA experience, and that I'm an untrustworthy liar. I haven't posted on here as much as you, but that doesn't mean I am any less worthy of respect. I'm honestly just stunned reading your posts.
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You can claim that, but how else is somebody suppose to take that? It's very ambiguous, but the tone doesn't sound very benevolent from my view. Maybe you weren't being disrespectful, however it's extremely easy to take it that way.
You STILL haven't answered my question. I didn't misread your response, you can twist it like that and also, the fact that you are claiming that I keep attacking your "character" is dubious at best when it can be argued that you did the same exact thing. "You are attacking me and accusing me of lying" etc etc. So basically you're saying I'm the type of person that agressively tries to put people down unfairly. Lmk when someone would actually agree with that.
I know Blank. I don't know you. There is a certain level of trust within the staff here at BL, and I never felt that he was being disrespectful while I felt that you were.
You don't get respect automatically, you earn it. It was much the same here when I was just a regular user; in fact, I have probably been one of the most respectful and kind posters during my short time here, and that is probably the main reason why I have been entrusted as a mod on two forums so quickly. On top of that, they are aware that I have been as truthful as I can possibly be.
I'm equally stunned from reading yours. You see how this works? I took your response as a sign of disrespect, so I gave it back to you. You can say you weren't meaning to, and I can equally do the same! What sets us apart is that you did not do anything much to earn the trust that you think you deserve. Therefore, I don't trust things like "eyes rolling like crazy" crap when there's nothing to back it up! You still didn't even explain what you meant by that.
Because millions of people drop mdma, and there have been over a million views on BL itself. I'm confident because I've rolled many hundreds of times, and mdma used to be something that I was obsessed with and understand very well at a personal level, and everything I said probably makes a lot more sense than what you're saying.
You STILL haven't answered my question. I didn't misread your response, you can twist it like that and also, the fact that you are claiming that I keep attacking your "character" is dubious at best when it can be argued that you did the same exact thing. "You are attacking me and accusing me of lying" etc etc. So basically you're saying I'm the type of person that agressively tries to put people down unfairly. Lmk when someone would actually agree with that.
I know Blank. I don't know you. There is a certain level of trust within the staff here at BL, and I never felt that he was being disrespectful while I felt that you were.
You don't get respect automatically, you earn it. It was much the same here when I was just a regular user; in fact, I have probably been one of the most respectful and kind posters during my short time here, and that is probably the main reason why I have been entrusted as a mod on two forums so quickly. On top of that, they are aware that I have been as truthful as I can possibly be.
I'm equally stunned from reading yours. You see how this works? I took your response as a sign of disrespect, so I gave it back to you. You can say you weren't meaning to, and I can equally do the same! What sets us apart is that you did not do anything much to earn the trust that you think you deserve. Therefore, I don't trust things like "eyes rolling like crazy" crap when there's nothing to back it up! You still didn't even explain what you meant by that.
Because millions of people drop mdma, and there have been over a million views on BL itself. I'm confident because I've rolled many hundreds of times, and mdma used to be something that I was obsessed with and understand very well at a personal level, and everything I said probably makes a lot more sense than what you're saying.