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Why do we feel the need to connect?

Tbh thats why I stopped posting on bluelight because I found it was endless analysis for everything and I really dont need to analyze everything to the 10th degree anymore. But had a urge to check the boards again.

I agree if you cling to anything it is folly, generally after this long of a back and forth I give up but ive had the energy to keep going with this discussion, I dont meditate everyday or do formal meditation but none the less I felt like defending it. :)
 
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CoffeeDrinker said:
Clinging to anything is folly. So yeah if you feel "you must meditate, it's this hugely important thing" then you're already missing the point. You might as well not meditate, just forget about it and live your life. Maybe revisit it later.
I can buy that the same effects of meditation could be found elsewhere, but endless analysis is the opposite of a stilled mind, so I'm just gonna chill out.
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Meditate if you benefit, right now sitting around not being productive would be disastrous. That doesn't mean I won't be at a time in my life when it will be helpful, but when that is, says little about me. IMO
 
Ninae said:
Why do you feel the need to connect? Because there is bliss in the union with another being and the love that can arise from it laid down as a possibility in our nature. If you were feeling that way right now, you wouldn't ask but just enjoy it and think the reason was simply to make you feel happy.

It's like asking "Why do we want to take drugs that make us feel euphoric?" And indeed drugs such as opiates and ecstacy can mimic some of those feelings (as it's also chemically based and on the same chemicals, yet it's not JUST about chemicalsl but also a mysterious form of "energy", which is where the spiritual part comes in.

I find it strange that someone would even need to ask this question. Have you ever seen a couple with a new baby or a couple just fallen in love? Don't they adore to be close to each other and love each other just for the joy of it?

We are all programmed to love our parents as children for our survival, the opposite sex for survival and reproduction when we grow up, and our children until they grow up for their survival. That is the evolutionary basis of it. It's nature's way of making sure we support each other in the difficult task of surviving on Earth. There are also some who have access to more love than what biology has to provide, but this is a more priviliged state.

And those of us more sensitive to it can also recognise the capacity of love in another (though everyone does subconsciously and everyone loves someone with a high capacity for love). Yet another way that people are NOT equal. And those with little access to love themselves DO like to trivialise it as they don't want to feel inferior or like they are missing out. Sad for them, but I'm glad I'm not one of those - seems like just what really gives meaning to us humans in this world has been denied to them.
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Excellent post
 
It's more than this-life "training". We are social. In most cases, you won't survive without the help of others. I could say in all cases. Independence is not reality. Contact with others for any reason might be likened to finding some ground to stand on... or learning the currents to swim with, or glide with.

Once we reach a point as an individual we-some of us might have brought with them the experience to stand alone.... but that requires a lot of knowledge and discipline.

Connection might be grounding.

True loss of ego... I believe, is impossible. Even your own brain is made of billions of "individuals" talking to one another... divided into two... seeing where the other is at.

You are the other talking to yourself.
And in ways, we're always in the dark... blind.
To find connection with another, might be like a blind person touching with an object, an object, to guide themselves.

Or echolocation... a sound bouncing off of a wall.
 
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^this and that.
I don't like that people think the desire to connect and form friendships is because "society programs us to" or "social conditioning" or "peer pressure." That all strikes me as extremely myopic. I can see why a bitter or lonely person would think that, but there's so much more to the story. I'm not saying there aren't forces of social control out there that try to get people to do certain things against their will(what Changed talked about), but that has nothing to do with the fact that people need friendship, family, or love in their lives, for whatever reason, in order to be happy.
I think there's something extremely fundamental within human beings that makes us want to associate with one another. Evolution play a big part of it, but the fact that we're (and by we I mean non-living matter an energy as well) all intimately interconnected, which is undeniable, plays just as large a role.
 
[ToQUOTE=EyesSizeOfTheMoon;9688159]Why is it that we feel need the need to connect with one another? We always seem to be looking for some type of support and closeness with one another whether it be to find your significant other, or having friends. Hell even in prison they know that solitary confinement is a huge consequence of acting up because we tend to go crazy and lonely without any human contact.

I got to thinking about this today when I was sitting on my couch and my cat came over and was rubbing on me just so I could pet it. Not for food, but just for the sake of me giving her the affection and love she wanted from me at that moment.

So what drives us to seek out the attention of others? Is it just brain chemicals or could it have a deeper meaning? What do you guys think?


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My ideas on this were, at first, that our reasons for seeking out to connect with each other is simply an old instinct for survival. If you think about it humans completely and utterly need other humans to survive in todays world.
For me to have my breakfast cereal in the morning I depend on over a hundred people...I depend on the dairy farmer and his help, the truck driver, the people who work at the gas station to pump the guys gas, the people working in the oil field the automobile manufacturing industry, all the secretaries and office people involved, the grocery store manager, owner, stock boy, cashier, etc.
The list goes on and on, and that was only for the milk, I didn't even touch on the actual cereal.

I think that interaction with other people is a need, not a want, and that some of the gratification we feel from it is just a deep seated desire to survive.

But as I grow older and begin to mature I open my mind to different possibilities. Like for example, does live truly exist? I think it does, to different degrees depending on which day you catch me on.

As we have strived to survived and as we have our own struggles through life we feel sympathy for those going through tough times and we feel the need to help them out. In the long run, this will write out the human race from over population. Maybe an old instinct for survival is going to be one that wipes us out. Well thrive too immensely and we end up destroying ourselves. We've seen with animals before, we just can't feed everyone.

The difference with the animals is they are un knowing.we aren't. I think that's where love comes into play. We would rather support each other, give up our last bit of food and die as a species, wed rather become extinct than to idly stand by and watch someone suffer. That's not logical out reasonable in any sort of sense... So it must be something more... I feel that love is a much stronger emotion than all the others... It's on a whole different level than hatred or sadness or happiness and it can be coupled with the other emotions easily.

So we do it for love.
Absurdly, illogically, downright retardedly we give up the entire human existence for an intangible "warm fuzzy feeling" emanating from our hearts... The heart doesn't cause us to feel emotion, the brain does. But love conquers (and defeats) us all

Sorry for the rant and any spelling mistakes, I sent this from my phone.
 
brenl said:
I feel that love is a much stronger emotion than all the others... It's on a whole different level than hatred or sadness or happiness and it can be coupled with the other emotions easily.

So we do it for love.
Absurdly, illogically, downright retardedly we give up the entire human existence for an intangible "warm fuzzy feeling" emanating from our hearts... The heart doesn't cause us to feel emotion, the brain does. But love conquers (and defeats) us all
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Love is such a strong feeling that it transcends the label of emotion n would be better identified as the experience of the true cosmic vibration that feeds our deepest hunger to full satisfaction without a single grain of rice.
Love is the only weapon to not fight wars, but fight war itself.

"Those immersed in the love of God feel love for all thngs"

This Sikh proverb is a fundamental lesson as the ability to love comes from our Creator with the limitation that you as the individual have your hand on this nozzle, you control your own degree of your outpour of love.
Realize that God is all around you n to harm your neighbor is to harm yourself as you n your neighbor are one in the same.
Its as if one puzzle piece decides to destroy another piece of the puzzle; with that harm comes the self-harm of non-fulfillment
This is why those on the path to righteousness follow the urge to connect while the wicked only sink further into their self-created pit of hateful shadows.
 
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