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Why do we fear stimulants?

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Anyone who is normally hyperactive or takes speed knows the answer instantly-society is more comfortably with placid slugs. To be wide awake is to think, to do, to bounce off the walls and engage in marathon conversations that lead to introspection, prank phone calls and societal espionage. to be wide awake, alert, wired is in a word-dangerous. The powers that be would rather we drown our sorrows in booze in front of the TV, it keeps us pliant and manageable, better consumers. Try watching TV on speed, by the third ad you'll be ranting about Mcdonalds, madison Ave etc, and you sure as hell won't be ready to go out and buy the crap featured in their ads.

Living on speed makes you realize just how slow everyone, every thing else is moving.

What would happen if all the people who stagger home from their dreary jobs each day stopped dulling their pain with an alcohol or pot induced stupor.

What if they popped speed and drank espresso instead? 8)
 
in a lot of ways I think it's actually the opposite of this. speed is one of the most acceptable drugs in our society, esp. considering how much it's prescribed to kids and adults alike. our culture promotes work and productivity, and tends to view sleep and idleness as wasteful. people who indulge in those activities are seen as lazy, worthless, unmotivated, etc. whereas speed heads and coke addicts end up making 7 figures on Wall St.
 
leiphos said:
in a lot of ways I think it's actually the opposite of this. speed is one of the most acceptable drugs in our society, esp. considering how much it's prescribed to kids and adults alike. our culture promotes work and productivity, and tends to view sleep and idleness as wasteful. people who indulge in those activities are seen as lazy, worthless, unmotivated, etc. whereas speed heads and coke addicts end up making 7 figures on Wall St.
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i gotta agree with you. society nowadays puts such on emphasis on everything being faster, and faster. Its like everything is based on production rather than quality or anythng else. I prefer downers, makes me feel like im slowin down an always too fast world....
 
ITA ... i've always been after the amps, not the downers (except for the comedown :( )

If everyone took stimulants, they'd be unproductive every couple of days, lol.
 
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scream said:
you sure as hell won't be ready to go out and buy the crap featured in their ads.
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But I do think using stimulants can lead to thinking that bad ideas are good ideas... Also thinking that you are better than other people (an inflated sense of ego)

Plus you have to come down sometime.

I think that if you use stimulants you're still just as useless as everybody else. You might think you're better. And I don't think they are rejected by society as someone said above they are prescribed to so many children.
 
They sap your intelligence and cognitive functioning with abuse like no other class of drugs in my experience, that's why I fear them.
 
i think our society(the usa) is very accepting of stimulants except for meth, which has proven itself to be an incredibly dangerous chemical to use. As was said above, many of our most successful members have used or do use cocaine or amphetamines
 
Km013 said:
They sap your intelligence and cognitive functioning with abuse like no other class of drugs in my experience, that's why I fear them.
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I dunno... long term benzo abuse is good like that.
 
very true. psychedelic abuse also comes close for me. but i don't think anything has really made me less able to think and perform in an academic/professional setting than amphetamine/cocaine abuse.
 
^ I think it depends on the level of use. I find that a small amount of meth/amphetamines actually improves my concentration and productivity. But yeah, as I became more and more addicted to the stuff I found that I lost most of those abilities.
 
Km013 said:
very true. psychedelic abuse also comes close for me. but i don't think anything has really made me less able to think and perform in an academic/professional setting than amphetamine/cocaine abuse.
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How would you even know that?
 
know what? how my periods of abuse of these these drugs affected my well-being and performance in an academic/professional setting? because I experienced them personally and compared? of course there were other variables besides the drugs, but that goes without saying. not sure I understand.
 
Yes. I'm not sure how you think drug use had any noticeable effect. There are other far more important variables for most people.
 
fair enough. the factors i was referring to were things like motivation/energy (both mental and physical), thought patterns, mood, derealization, etc., which seemed like acute symptoms of my drug abuse. i think i try to be more conscious than the average person about the effects of the drugs i take, as drugs were probably the most important thing to me for a couple years and experiencing them was really the focal point of my life. i feel like i can compare them pretty accurately because i was never really a poly drug abuser; i had phases were i would abuse one class of drug and then quit it completely after i had enough. of course there is no definitive answer for anything because there are too many variables to account for in any given situation, but it wont stop me from trying.
 
I tend to view stimulant abusers are more aggressive and often more arrogant. I will say I have started using stimulants such as caffeine and low doses of MDPV to help me be more productive.

I do think stimulants can be used properly. I was just thinking to myself recently while I was on a low-ish dose of MDPV one afternoon and was getting tons of stuff done at work; Why are these things illegal? This is exactly what society wants of me; A positive mood, highly energetic, highly productive.

If used in moderation and have people come-down at home and not cause shit in the world, I think everyone would be allowed to use them. Society would love it.

As for the OP with the powers that be wanting us to be numb idiots and stuff; Stimulants can make you sharp and aware in some ways, but they can also keep you quite idiotic, vacuous and consumerist. I think psychedelics are their main fear.
 
PepperSocks said:
I tend to view stimulant abusers are more aggressive and often more arrogant.
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That's the stereotype, and I'll admit that I do know some aggressive/arrogant stimulant addicts, but I also know some who are very friendly and wouldn't hurt a fly.
 
they cause extreme anxiety where i already have extreme anxiety. only time i can do em is if i have enough benzos or h to keep me from flippin.
 
I do agree that America has been pretty cool with prescribing amphetamines since the 30s. However, those people that do fear stimulant users probably do so because of the potential for someone getting audio or visual hallucinations (from all the dopamine), while their body is very stimulated with that norepinephrine which commonly causes anxiety, and they're active and possibly suffering from sleep deprivation or sleep deprivation. Their effects on the body, in habitual recreational users, are more obvious and scary than a beer gut, or some liver or lung damage you won't see.

The stimulant user, on a binge or very high dose, poses a greater threat to their own and others safety, or at least order. Downers are more likely to leave someone more passive if they start thinking too irrationally.
 
I completely disagree with the op. Our society loves stimulants. Even in the 50's before there was really a drug culture many housewives took 'Bennies'. Caffiene, Nicotine, Adderall, Ritalin? Look at the booming energy drink market these days. I think your view is a little distorted from too many stimulants.

The only schedule 1 stimulants are MDMA (which also has psychedelic effects) and BZP which was added within the last decade. I've witnessed firsthand the effects of crystal meth and people can become pretty psychotic from that stuff. In regards to cocaine, it was glamorous for awhile until people started oding and making crack with it. I think psychedelics and Downers (outside alcohol) have far more stigma in society than stimulants.
 
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