Yeah I mean I didn't mean as a long term maint. drug, but the reason I ask is this one girl I know claims that she can have a pretty decent run on dope like a few weeks or so, then do 3 days of mxe and she's totally fine, not even any paws or whatever. She says mxe LOWERS her opiate tolerance. I really find this all hard to beleive but after searching bluelight a bit I think it might be somewhat possible. Maybe she is kind of exagerating..but that's why I asked.
Also toothpaste mentions dxm to help with withdrawals.. and I have found very little releif from dosing it.. but I also did not do a huge dose like you would take to get in a pretty serious trip. Ketamine for example, when I was in transition from 80mg methadone to 12mg bupe, I used dope for 4 days after stopped the mdone, then I waited 36 hours with no opiate use before dosing the bupe so as to avoid precipitated withdrawals and try to have the least painful transition. Anyone who has jumped back and forth between bupe and full agonists knows how bad the transition is after a while, and how bad PW's can be if you find your self in that situation.
So anyway, after my 4 days heroin use, during the 36 hours I abstained from opiate use before dosing my buprenorphine, I used K quite a bit. I used about 500mg during that time.. mostly in the last 18 hours when I started to feel the withdrawals pretty bad. When I would sniff about 75mg of K it would get me high (which I am not crazy about the k high) for around 30 mins maybe a bit more, then I found my self sleeping for like an hour after. And if you've been in moderate-severe opiate withdrawals, you know sleep is impossible, and even 5 minutes gives you such a releif. I couldn't beleive how well K worked considering it didn't interact with the bupe in a bad way like giving my PW's or anything. And I used right up till my dose and a little after as well. I would usually weigh out 100mg of the K but by the time I had sniffed 50mg I couldn't even go on. These doses were not k-hole doses.. I never got to experience that.
Now if mxe is essentially the same, which I am not really sure about, I'd think it would have those same effects but a longer duration. I am 99% sure it's still legal in the US, so I think I am going to experiment a little with this. Maybe it would help me to detox off bupe where I am at without tapering lower (4mg daily).
Long kind of unrelated 2nd half to post.. don't read unless you are bored haha:
Also toothpaste mentions dxm to help with withdrawals.. and I have found very little releif from dosing it.. but I also did not do a huge dose like you would take to get in a pretty serious trip. Ketamine for example, when I was in transition from 80mg methadone to 12mg bupe, I used dope for 4 days after stopped the mdone, then I waited 36 hours with no opiate use before dosing the bupe so as to avoid precipitated withdrawals and try to have the least painful transition. Anyone who has jumped back and forth between bupe and full agonists knows how bad the transition is after a while, and how bad PW's can be if you find your self in that situation.
So anyway, after my 4 days heroin use, during the 36 hours I abstained from opiate use before dosing my buprenorphine, I used K quite a bit. I used about 500mg during that time.. mostly in the last 18 hours when I started to feel the withdrawals pretty bad. When I would sniff about 75mg of K it would get me high (which I am not crazy about the k high) for around 30 mins maybe a bit more, then I found my self sleeping for like an hour after. And if you've been in moderate-severe opiate withdrawals, you know sleep is impossible, and even 5 minutes gives you such a releif. I couldn't beleive how well K worked considering it didn't interact with the bupe in a bad way like giving my PW's or anything. And I used right up till my dose and a little after as well. I would usually weigh out 100mg of the K but by the time I had sniffed 50mg I couldn't even go on. These doses were not k-hole doses.. I never got to experience that.
Now if mxe is essentially the same, which I am not really sure about, I'd think it would have those same effects but a longer duration. I am 99% sure it's still legal in the US, so I think I am going to experiment a little with this. Maybe it would help me to detox off bupe where I am at without tapering lower (4mg daily).
Long kind of unrelated 2nd half to post.. don't read unless you are bored haha:
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