RCs Why do people ingest these 'bath salts'?

[NeighborhoodThreat]

^Sadly, lots of reports sounded just like yours

Now however I'm being partially hospitalized.

so please, just don't go there.

Sorry to hear that, hopefully everything will be alright.

 

[DoUbLeYoU]

Now however I'm being partially hospitalized.

so please, just don't go there.

What r u bein hospitalized for if u don't mind me asking? For taking that bath salt shit?

 

[more]

^Sadly, lots of reports sounded just like yours



Sorry to hear that, hopefully everything will be alright.

hey I remember you from my withdrawal forum! thanks so much for your help, you'e a real blessing. 3

and yep, I'm starting to do a lot better. I had some other issues like depression, which I think that shit really made impossible to handle. I'm getting better though with the more days that pass, and I'm really starting to feel hopeful again about the future.

What r u bein hospitalized for if u don't mind me asking? For taking that bath salt shit?

yeah i snorted half a gram thursday night and haven't been the same since. lots of anxiety and loss of sleep and fine motor skills... I am thinking I got two particularly shitty bags tho.

 

[Dedbeet]

I've used Tranquility Bath Salts twice.. Definitely MDPV that is cut with god knows what. Both times I had 500mg, and constant re-dosing despite no positive effects was basically the extent of it. Raised my BP and Heart Rate real high, though could sleep within 2 hours of last dose.

Never buying bath salts again, although my experience(s) with pure MDPV and Methylone powder have been far more enjoyable and safer (in my opinion). Since the purity was known and there were no cuts involved.

Yes -- if you know what you're ingesting and are doing it purposely, it's a bit of a different matter... you can control your intake based on dosage of a known lab-grade substance, as well as benefitting from researching other people's experiences with it.

Snorting 'bath salts' with unknown content is a bit off the wall, but nothing even comes close to IV'ing/injecting 'bath salts' as far as insanity goes, IMO.

 

[indicameds]

I personally have never even seen these bath salts in my area just heard about em. I do IV R/Cs about once a week. But with that said I know the risk Im taking, and don't advise it. But I do atleast know where my chemz are being made and the purity of them. And even that doesn't make any of em less corrosive. They wreak havoc on your viens if abused to often. But I think that the expirence out weighs the bad sides of it. I filter each shot, use a new needle every time. Use mcg scales to dose the shots and trust my vendor and rotate injection sites often. (mostly because I IV other things and dont want to risk collapsing all my veins)

But personally I love IV mephedrone, methylone and a few other R/Cs.
And its important to start small with each new batch. Its like baking cookies. You might make wonderful oatmeal cookies all year but you will burn a batch sooner or later. And I wouldnt count on the chemist to throw out a not so good batch or even tell you about it. The risk is in your hands. Be safe and responsible, stay away from unknown bath salts and stick with straight R/Cs.

 

[foolsgold]

i did ivory wave ultra because i loved the stuff and im gutted a load of immature idiots got it banned trying to be big and cleaver doing stupid amounts. iv used up to 2grams in 4days on the stuff and never had the insanity it got labled with but maybe thats because iv a nasty speed habit and im use to that sort of stuff. warning dnt use it like i did tho im 1 of the lucky 1s i guess

 

[sighhill]

I personally have never even seen these bath salts in my area just heard about em. I do IV R/Cs about once a week. But with that said I know the risk Im taking, and don't advise it. But I do atleast know where my chemz are being made and the purity of them. And even that doesn't make any of em less corrosive. They wreak havoc on your viens if abused to often. But I think that the expirence out weighs the bad sides of it. I filter each shot, use a new needle every time. Use mcg scales to dose the shots and trust my vendor and rotate injection sites often. (mostly because I IV other things and dont want to risk collapsing all my veins)

But personally I love IV mephedrone, methylone and a few other R/Cs.
And its important to start small with each new batch. Its like baking cookies. You might make wonderful oatmeal cookies all year but you will burn a batch sooner or later. And I wouldnt count on the chemist to throw out a not so good batch or even tell you about it. The risk is in your hands. Be safe and responsible, stay away from unknown bath salts and stick with straight R/Cs.

You make very good points and I agree with most. BUT...Are you a chemical engineer, chemist, or do you watch as they make the batch of whichever RC you decide to IV each week? How do you test the purity of your recieved RC's? Do you realize how much of a factor just 1% less purity can do to a chemical?You can trust your vendor all you want if it makes you feel better, but don't tell me you knew exactly what you had in that 1 gram bag the first time you did a research chem. Those first couple experiences are just as risky, if not more, as bath salts. It is ill advice and wreckless to recommend bath salt users or those curious to "stick with straight R/Cs" that aren't experienced in the RC world. You actually even contradicted yourself.

UNRELATED - I am noticing this more and more on Bluelight lately and some in this thread---
What good is there in writing trash and downing others for the decisions they make? You have a right to your opinions, and I'm sure some people might want to hear them. Personally I'm not always the nicest when sometimes responding to post but I do try to keep it mature. I just don't think the users of Bluelight joined this highly reconized forum site to be critized, mocked, or put down for the choices they make in life.
I want to encourage each one of you, that made negative comments towards people who use or have used bath salts (or any other substance you don't approve of in other threads), to take a long ponder on some of the "not so wise" decisions you have made in life. Look at those kinds of decisions that you thought were cool, fun, or foolishly a good idea at the time. Now, would you like to log into a site you joined for enjoyment and/or harm reduction, just to see a bunch of wise asses' making childish comments about how stupid a person would have to be to do such a thing. If one pondered enough before writing, they might remember ones own past shames and keep their opionions to those who want to hear it..

 

[amapola]

^Exactly. In all walks of life people put down others to make themselves feel more secure and downplay their own vices. For example in drug culture... People who pop prescription narcotics look down on those who use heroin. Heroin snorters look down on heroin shooters. Heroin shooters look down on pill shooters. All other druggies look down on bath salt shooters.

In the end we're all just human and we all have our weaknesses. Even when I get mad at people insulting bath salt users, some of that emotion stems from me feeling superior in that I am rising above and feeling compassion as opposed to judging like the others.

 

[mankatomeowfan11]

the answer to this question is this:

a lot of kids used to love MDMA,

MDMA is now damn hard to find in real form

mephedrone is extremely close to MDMA and was the first true bath salt to hit the scene

banned MDMA = kids willing to shovel anything in their bodies to "roll"

 

[187coopa]

Well they do work for a bath salt. I mean my bubble baths are so much more relaxing and there great for the skin. better than dove imo. plus they smell good. never dosed them tho.

 

[Xamkou]

^Let me guess your applying next time to be a mod? It's a pretty good question actually. Sense this bath salt shit has been posted about so much. I think it's pretty simple people want to get high, however I think the people taking these bath salts are expecting a little to much.

So my answer is that there taking bath salts because they think that it's going to make them feel good like other stimulants such as, cocaine, and mdma. Then they realize it makes them feel shitty, then ingest more to kill the pain. Thus causing more pain.

Thus making them dumb asses.

You have evidently never tried Mephedrone...

 

[Dedbeet]

^^ Or good quality MDPV, although that seems to be more of a matter of taste than mephedrone (which nearly everyone seems to like who tries it).

It's amazing how many 'haters' MDPV has picked up as of late... I get a 'fear vibe' coming off many peeps posting negative stuff about it, like it kicked their arse or they're afraid it would .

There's a lot of crappy MDPV floating around out there too, which doesn't help things any... not to mention negative media coverage and ignorance about the basics of the drug itself. Not that it matters much, as it's in the process of being banned into obscurity.

 

[FloridaDeathTrip]

MDPV is great to someone that has to take piss tests and likes to get fucked up!!!!

My problem with MDPV is 1 staring out the window 80% of the time I'm high
2. feindy as hell
3 heart feels like it's going to explode
4 runnin out of it...

Other then that it was pretty radical.I really feel sorry for hardcore users that first try it and rail out 100 mg lines...

 

[Kenaz]

I don't even know what RC's stands for but I see it as the label to many of these posts about 'bath salts' so I'll go with that. My question is, why on earth do people ingest these products? I don't think I've ever read anything good about any of them. Almost every single trip report describes someone having a multiple day hangover that is among the worst experiences of their entire lives. Do people really think a product sold OTC is going to give you any kind of high that's worth a shit? I just read a thread where a person was asking how to prepare this product for IV - WHY would you want to inject a random substance? I just don't get it. Maybe someone who enjoys RC's can enlighten me.

As somebody who got a royal ass-kicking from the boots of Madame MDPV, I can answer your question in three words: Feels good man. And when the parts that feel bad - the hangovers etc. - become more predominant than the parts that feel good, most people stop using. Unfortunately, some of us are a bit slower on the uptake than others, and require lots of negative reinforcement before we forget the positive stuff.

 

[Dedbeet]

Hi Kenaz,

As somebody who got a royal ass-kicking from the boots of Madame MDPV, I can answer your question in three words: Feels good man. And when the parts that feel bad - the hangovers etc. - become more predominant than the parts that feel good, most people stop using. Unfortunately, some of us are a bit slower on the uptake than others, and require lots of negative reinforcement before we forget the positive stuff.

IME, it's not really a matter of negative or positive reinforcement -- these are psychic judgments, and ime dopame reuptake inhibition is reinforcing, period -- whether the reinforcement is judged negative or positive. In other words, dopamine is dopamine. Oftentimes even if the high is judged "s*cxors", one still wants more.

 

[Z Y G G Y]

I wonder how many stupid people saw "bath salts" at a gas station and took that literally. I wonder if mdpv and shit could be absorbed through the skin especially if hot water was opening pores

lol

My SO other isn't very interested or in the know about this stuff and he actually asked me that if he took a bath in these "bath salts" would he get high?

I really didn't know the answer. Never tried it that way or any other. Nut wonder if someone actually did. Anything addictive that is as stimulant would leave me up for days up to the point of hallucinating. It's always been painful to me to use stims so I stopped long ago. Actually depressants are more stimulating to me than stims for some odd reason. I only need the extra dopamine, if anything else is going on in that chemical it usually messes with me bad or something like that. Or if it calms my nerves I get stimulated cuz then I can go on doing something for hours that I would never normally do when sober or when on stims. they never make me sleepy.

Enough about me. Sorry about that. Just had to add a me story somewhere.

 

[Z Y G G Y]

MDPV is great to someone that has to take piss tests and likes to get fucked up!!!!

My problem with MDPV is 1 staring out the window 80% of the time I'm high
2. feindy as hell
3 heart feels like it's going to explode
4 runnin out of it...

Other then that it was pretty radical.I really feel sorry for hardcore users that first try it and rail out 100 mg lines...

that sounds like a shitty drug

I hate feinding for more...It makes me into this person I hate. I never want to be that person ever again. Nothing does that for me but stims. The heart thing I had on coke would put me into the insane panic attacks even after a line. i liked the feeling but the side effects were so horrible from every stim I did, that I could never take them more than a few time each at most, mostly just once, exception was good coke. Made me clean for hours.

 

[baddog72]

I have never seen a bath salt, but I guess it's supposed to be the same as plant food mephedrone?

Mephedrone seems to be ok as long as you can control the "fiend." When I have it, I usually have to have someone hide it from me once I start or..." three days later..."the bag finally runs out and I crash for a few days, cry at Adam Sandler movies, experience really nasty boogers, feel a bit down for a week or so. The best way I have used it it taking 200 mg gel caps every 2-3 hrs and railing to the peak. If I'm out, I can't be shut up or if I'm home, youtube never gets old.

Tried MDPV twice and both times felt like a full night of having death premonitions.