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Why do people do Salvia if its so spooky?

I think what attracts a lot of people is how short an experience it is (this may already have been posted, i'm not sure, i haven't read through the 4 previous pages). I mean, for those looking for a breakthrough psychedelic experience while still having time to do whatever else you wanted to do that day, there are little alternatives to Salvia.

That said, it is pretty frightening. I'll admit that i'll probably keep on using it from time to time, but a major reason that i feel apprehensive about it is that, as soon as i come up, there's a distinct disconnection that occurs between me and the rest of the world, anyone i'm with, etc. Sensing that disconnect makes me try to reach out and stay grounded, which fails, making me feel worst. However, i'm not using this as a sign that I should stop. Because I do one day want to experience a true breakthrough session, i'll keep on using salvia if only to train myself to accept the removal of myself from the world's "Such-ness," if you get what i'm saying.
 
I just watched a load of salvia vids on google vids, and thank God I did, looks terrifying, there were people saying "help me", losing the power of speech and dribbling like babies, those wide eyed stares are very freaky

I know these aren't the best settings, but even so, it's put me right off
 
I found it rather horrendous.

As if I was being sucked into a hole as soon as it came on and the like.

And feeling physically unable to open to door to an apartment which at the time I thought was the door to heaven with something perpetually pulling me back and away.
 
I smoke Salvia very rarely - its such a profound and powerful experience and leaves you with so many unanswered questions. I always found the experience a bit unsettling, but the last time I smoked it (just a couple weeks ago, 36mg of 21x extract) - I was rocketed further than Id ever gone before and it just felt so 'right' - almost friendly even. I was so at peace in the 'salvia space' then when reality came seeping back in, it hit me like a ton of bricks and it took me a moment to realize that the baseline state of consciousness was where I was actually from, and I was kind of upset that I had to come back.

Salvia is an amazing plant - a plant I greatly respect and admire.

Mezza
 
Mezza, Your response was probably my favorite thus far.
Respect the herb that will in NO WAY restect you if you do otherwise...
 
Some people enjoy extremely crazy shit
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QFT.
I like salvia a lot. I smoke it for recreational purposes but also have a lot of respect for the substance (say a little prayer before each time). For me its way more of a mind thing than the actual visuals. To me it reminds me of falling into this hole that is insanity and you can see reality but you can't reach it. You try and climb out of the hole but you (body, mind, everything) just falls back into the hole unable to escape. This was quite terrifying the first time I experienced it. But now when I do it I am ready for it and keep it to doses to were I can remember on some level or in some way that I am really high and instead of panicking, relax, observe, and enjoy.
 
my experience with salvia 40x was horrible although i think it is because i was just peaking on 2C-B so instead of 15 seconds of insanity it was 6 fucking hours of floating around in some other reality scariest shit ive ever been through. forgot who i was also this was my first real trip i before that i had maybe $5 of some mushrooms so i was completely mindfucked

another friend had a panic attack on it and now he gets them frequently which sucks for him

my other friend also forgot who he was and was running around in the woods trying to find himself he ended up climbing halfway up a 100something foot rock wall, we were so worried he was going to jump but he came down thankfully

and the one who got it for us supposedly feels NO effects what so ever from smoking like 40x or whatever the strongest shit we can get scary fuckin shit
 
If you could go back in time and watch the twin towers fall on 911 from 1000 yards away would you do it?
That’s what’s Salvia is like.
 
luckytaak said:
If you could go back in time and watch the twin towers fall on 911 from 1000 yards away would you do it?
That’s what’s Salvia is like.
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As sick as that sounds, yes, it really is that unsettling.
 
Salvia

I really enjoy Salvia, from a nice hot bong, feel the burn on the throat, hold it in, take a couple more then feel it coming on. I dont find it spooky at all, i get a totally different trip from it than any other stuff, but it is short lived. I think it is best used to peak a trip that is already going on. Next time your tripping hard on your favourate psychadelic-have a hit from the Salvia pipe and see what happens!
 
ok, the first time i tried salvia was 5x and it was amazing... saw little elves building the multiverse and stuff.... next two times i tried it was 17x and scared the shit out of me. not the trip itself, but the physical sensation of my body, every fiber and atom being RIPPED apart... then on a whim at night after i had drank some cactus tea about12 hours or so earlier, i smoke some in the pitch black and for the first five minutes i started to feel the same crazy feeling but then somehow it resideed, i felt normal, but tripping and in another place....very beautiful. anyways, i loveit and hate it at the same time, but i was wondering if there were any suggestions on how to make it a good experience, mainly anything i could do to counteract the body high, or subside it maybe?
 
I don't know if i'll ever do it again. I've smoked it 3x's. 25x. one hit from a pipe and the first 2 x's I was on a rollercoaster back in time. It was like 2 mirrors facing each other and going off to the left. I felt I was falling thru the chair I was sitting in and instantly My living room was set up as it was 2 years ago, different furniture, different wall color. Then I was back in the 80's in the bowling alley (i spent a lot of time there as a kid), trying to get everyone to understand that i've just went thru a time barrier and trying to get back to where I was supposed to be. I was then flying above old family photo albums and flying over my grandmothers house. the 3rd time i smoked it I was on my friends front porch and It wasn't fun. I thought the rocking chair under me had moved and I felt I was floating above her stairs. As much as I want to go back to the place the first 2 smokes sent me, I dont know...it was just a weird ass feeling. I feel like i'd have to smoke a whole lot more to get to that place, and then even more to stay in it and see what it means.
 
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I decided to not do it again after i stepped into a campfire experiencing my own death and judgment in the form of a talk show.

Spooky is not really the right word, its just weird... Reality gets completely replaced by salvialand.
 
So here is my first post:

Smoked salvia for the first time yesterday morning, around 11:15AM. Ive read about salvia and seen many videos on it and knew it was not something to take lightly, ive tripped on shrooms a good amount of times and so i figured i had some decent tripping experience. Ended up i was wrong, .3G of 60X salvia and smoked the whole thing 1 hit, held it in for what i would say 25-30 sec and soon as i let it out i started to sway(still standing). So i sat down then i cant remember anything after this about the conscience world. My body was still conscience but my mind was unknowing of anything around me. <-- Is this because i smoked to much or is this just a salvia trip, i was unsure but reading some of these posts where the dose was 36MG= .036G, did i do a lil bit to much? I want to smoke salvia again but the trip for the most part was good, some real cool vivid colors/experiences, but the come back was terrifying, i thought my friend was going to die.

conclusion: i would like to know if others have experienced this with high dosages or is this the just of the experience.

TY

Mythras420
 
:)

Thank you Shambles,

When i do salvia again i think i am going to try a bit less this time, maybe just a small pinch or so to try and get a visual still conscience trip. The first one i was completely unaware, uneffected of the world around me and i completely forgot i was even there. When it started to wear off all the visuals of my trip started to disform and shape back into what was in the room i was in. How much would you recommend for a semi high intensity trip but will still be affected by things around me, I want to try to "zone" into a picture. I want to look at a picture while smoking it and possibly have the chance to have my trip revolve or influenced by this picture.


Will post results when i can.

-Mythras420
 
No dose suggestions here cos it's way too individual. What affects me one way will almost certainly affect you completely differently. Best advice is to start low and have a sitter if possible. As a rule I don't recommend sitters but with Salvia and it's associated "Puppet Syndrome" it becomes more essential. When in Salvialand you can quite literally do anything and be completely unaware of what you are actually doing in the real world. That effect combined with the horrid bodyload are why I rarely use Salvia. The one exception is when on MDMA which seems to make the experience much "easier" even at relatively high doses.
 
i didn't see anything out the ordinary, just that everything around me didn't make any sense at all, i questioned existance itself. don't think i'm ready for that sort of state of mind yet, too extreme. i was stoned when i had it so maybe that added to the freakishness. it's probably good for meditation like in the deep jungle where you sweat the demons out etc.
 
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