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Why do cigarettes go down so well on Drugs?

mr fluffy : i wasnt trying to big note myself, rather ashamed of that effort actually.. and no thanks.
as for the smoking pot thing.. sorry can't compare. I don't (or ever have) had 25 cones in a day, i don't mix with tobacco (makes me ill) .. and yes, i do know about the dangers of pot smoking, i just dont think that one cone in a week (yes, that's all i've had this week!) compares to a pack a day habit.. but anyway.. i'm not a smoker, i never HAVE been a smoker (so i'm not reformed at all) there have been ocassions (periods of time) when i have smoked socially etc but i've never felt the feeling of addiction.
So yeah, i guess it's fine for me to sit here and preach away when i don't have the burden of addiction on my back.. i'm yet to meet a smoker who hasn't ever wanted to quit :-/
jesus... i don't know where this is going. I just wanted to make a point about consideration for non-smokers.. and it seems as though all you Bluelight Faggers (ehehe
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Carry on though, i'm enjoying hearing other people's thoughts.
A quick poll - my best friend has been smoking since she was about 14.. she said she was hooked from the first cigarette, and has been a pack a day girl for a while now.
How many of you had the same reaction?
Has it become a gradual increase in smoking?
Do you think your party habits have contributed to an increase in smoking?
Does your partner smoke?
just curious i guess...
once again, excuse my passion on this matter - my mum's a smoker and has been since she was a real youngun. i'd do anything to help her quit (scares the shit out of me to think how unhealthy she probably is).. so it's good to hear other people's stories.
 
sorry mona, i was just going by your post in this same thread, february 21's, and i quote:
"I used to smoke at least a pack a night (20's Marlboro Lights
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) and yah.. they did go down quite nicely... then one day i decided NO MORE!!! YUCKY!! And i havent looked back. Haven't had a cigge since."
and yes, i too have been hooked since the first smoke i coughed up
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. those first few ciggies were the sweetest i've ever had, and i've been chasing that rush ever since
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. now it's more of an nervous/environment thing. and partying sure does increase the rate of smoking.
 
Hey all, been following the thread and although its got a bit off topic it has brought up some good points.
I have tried smoking hundreds of times since I was about 12 and I really cant see the point to it although I might have one here or there (drinking or rolling) but I never crave one.
I agree with the no smoking on the dancefloor and if possible not to affect anyone else, I wouldn't ever really smoke inside anyway.
One thing I HATE though is smokers thinking their butts aren't rubbish. It makes me so angry to see smokers just drop their butts on the ground like its ok. ITS WRONG.
Now thats just my little gripe. But if you are smoking try to remember everyone else, including the environment and animals.
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Don't know bout cigs, but lick my arse and call me candy, I wanna know "why do chicks go down so well on drugs?" (He! He!)
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scratch - prolly the best call i've ever seen on BL.nu! ROFL
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i've been thinking about this thread for the last few days, and i think the "solution" really needs to revolve around compromise... people do smoke, and non-smokers very often are repulsed by the smell of a lit cig... however, i think to try and belt the issues out until either smokers or non-smokers end up "winning" is a dead end... it should really all come down to mutual consideration for those who share the same space with you... i totally agree that smokers should be considerate and thoughtful about the impact of their habit...
in response to mona's Qs;
How many of you had the same reaction?
not me - i'm not actually addicted to cigarettes... i have given up for months at a time, absolutely cold turkey, no cravings - pretty lucky
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i actually like smoking.
Has it become a gradual increase in smoking?
no - my smoking tends to fluctuate, but not ever increasing (does that make sense?!)
Do you think your party habits have contributed to an increase in smoking?
yes. when chopped, smoke more.
Does your partner smoke?
yes. and she's gorgeous. not that that really has anything to do with smoking. but she is
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this has been a real thought provoking post... i hope other smokers become more considerate (if not already) and that we can look beyond all this to see the greater good (fuck... sorry - i promised no more chopped posts, but...
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"...what the world needs now
is love, sweet love..."
buckdee
 
nice scratch!!
um.....I'm a smoker, and I enjoy it. It will be banned soon I think (either that, or a total roll reversal and pot will be legalised)
but yeah, non smokers - shuddup
smokers - time fer a ciggie break
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sorry I cant add something substantial and meaningful, i'm busy
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Damnit! i tried to reply to this yesterday but apprently i don't exist in Bluelight's files
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Anyway, yeah, I must say - i'm happy with the way this thread went. I'm not trying to force my non-smoking ways down the smokers throats. Believe me when i sat i KNOW how pointless this would be. A smoker's a smoker's a smoker. Yeah, the issue of consideration was a big one, and the discussion that resulted was mature and very two sided. I think generally a lot of people take the act of smoking for granted and just assume that everyone is so used to it that it shouldn't matter. I guess I had also become so accustomed to it (growing up with my mum smoking in the house - i gotta say she can be pretty inconsiderate, but its my mum so i just blame it on the fact that she's smoked around me for 21 years and she's just absent minded of it) until I came home from being out one night and i realised how sore my eyes/throat were etc.
I dont think smoking will be banned. There'd be SOOOO much of an uproar. Maybe the age limit should be raised? (i'm still stuck on the number of young kids i see starting smoking these days) then again there are 15 year olds taking speed and acid and going to school *sigh*
babble babble..
i think ive said enough.
 
I smoke. I don't want to smoke... for several reasons.
I'm going to keep smoking till I die of cancer.
I can't help it.
I hate it when some whizzed up bunny bounces up to me cos I'm sitting down at a club and screams at me to 'GET UP AND DANCE!!!!!!'... but when a speed addict calls me at 4AM to help him score, I don't mind, in fact for those I know, I always do my best to help them out.
I see it from the non-smokers point of view, and I'm not as sorry to youse as I am to myself. You're not going to die as easy as me. Do youse see it from the point of view of someone that _has_ to smoke? I doubt it, I've never met a non-smoker that could understand.
I've quit about 5 times. Once for a year, mostly for a few months. I was still craving after a year
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So maybe you non-smokers should feel sorry for US, the smokers. Next time you see someone smoking in a pub, go up to them, give them a pat and the back and say "Sorry aye, can I buy you a pint and pack of cigges?"
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That should fire things up again
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fuck i'm chopped, and entropope, very funny. i'm a smoker, and i'm addicted and i love/hate it.
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please someone buy me a pouch of drum.
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and mona, if you've never experienced addiction, then you won't understand the *HAS* part of the statement. i smoke, 'cos if i don't i tend to bite people's heads of. ok if needed, but not 24/7.
quitting's for losers,
it takes a real man to live with cancer
 
OK, I admit it.. I DON'T understand addiction (lucky me huh?) ... but I DO know plenty of people (well a few at least) who have known addiction and managed to quit (and stay quit).
I didn't want this to turn into a "you should quit smoking" thread.. because obviously it's a personal thing. Smoke if you want, quit if you want. It's all about individual choices right? but i believe that if you really want to quit something, you can do it. It's just REALLY wanting it that's the hard part.. often its just so much easier to give in, admit defeat.. or just say "but I WANT to" *sigh*
yeah pope, i guess you're right - I do feel sorry for the people who feel so tied to something that they HAVE to do it.. I'd hate it, especially if I didn't even want to be doing it in the first place.
 
I'm just going to drop in my p.o.v. here...
I've defended, in about the last 3 smoker vs. non-smoker threads (yeah I know it's not personal, but it's a heated issue), the right of people to choose to take a legal drug if they want to. The reason? I'm not quite sure, but it feels somehow wrong to watch people try to justify and defend the use of illicit drugs and then watch the same people bag the shit out of using a legal drug. I know there are good reasons why not, but free choice is free choice, and while nicotine is legal, smoke 'em if you got 'em.
There's an incredible disparity in the research we currently have into tobacco smoking compared with the research into illicit drugs. Obviously there are health risks with each, but we apparently know the health risks of smoking tobacco better, so that's the scapegoat. Cool. But, I defy anyone out there to tell me, that in the depths of their worst comedown, paranoia episode, or bad trip, they haven't secretly wondered exactly how much damage the drugs are doing.
Now, for the record. I smoke. I do not consider myself addicted to smoking. I hide my smoking from certain select people, for various reasons. I hate the smell of cigarette smoke on my clothes, my hair, or my breath. Why do I smoke? For the nicotine I guess. It is a hell of a drug, particularly in combination with a vast number of other drugs which provide a beautiful synergy, purely for the mental and physical feelings that they invoke, however shortlived that synergy may be as the nicotine wears off.
I do recognise that smoking is hazardous to others, and I make efforts to be considerate to others. I don't really prefer to smoke inside, but I do inside clubs, and when other members of the group I'm with are smoking. When I'm with a group of non-smokers, or in a relatively smoke-free area, I'll excuse myself, and most of the other smokers that I know would too. At clubs and pubs however, it is a given that there will be a smoky atmosphere, and that has been long accepted by most people, I imagine.
So, how well do cigarettes go down on drugs? Real fucking well.
Cheers, BigTrancer
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PS: I'm seriously impressed with the quality of this debate, people have been putting down excellent thought-out discussion on both sides of this issue.
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Umm I used to wrok in a Pathology Lab and took Biopsies from people who died from Lung Cancer. Take one look at a smokers lung , its the best anti smoking program ever. Tumors, puss , tar ... all mixed together YUM!
 
I really want to quit. But like I said, I can't. No matter how much I want to. I don't even like smoking ciggarettes except in certain situations and intoxications.
But I don't know if I made the point before that I think if you smoke, you have to be considerate of non-smokers. At the same time non-smokers have to be considerate of smokers in many situations, but I don't think many non-smokers accept that
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Yes I smoke.... but I am human too!!!
 
ok, totally off topic again, but this thread made me think.
isn't addiction a funny thing. i love mdma, but i don't exactly hang out for my next roll, speed is nice (mmmmmmmmm, speed) but i can go for weeks, even months, without needing, or having, it. pot is good, but i can smoke a doily in two days, and then not have any in six moths.
however, that being said, i would kill for a ciggie if someone ever tried to stop my supply. what is it that triggers addiction reactions in our brain?
i mean, i know smack is supposed to be really addictive, and there are many other drugs that can force dependence on their user, including those afore mentioned, but how much of it is physical, and how much is it psychological? i'm sure i can quit ciggies if i really want to, many others have proved that, but it is so intricately weaved into my lifestyle, that i would need a partial lifestyle change to get off them. i'm sure that's true of any other addiction.
maybe i should have started another thread, if so maybe the moderators can kick me, but feel free to comment.
 
hmmm.. call me ignorant here.. but how?
By always having a lighter on hand? (i do, because i get asked so often by uni mates.. honestly!
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By rolling cigarettes while the smoker is driving? (i have done! heeeaps, and i got quite good at it too
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By not coughing or waving my hand in front of my fave when you exhale into it?(
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joke joke.. but yeah.. i guess i need to have a word to alot of those uni mates, because unless i DO do that they don't even realise what they're doing. inconsiderate pricks)
By not whinging about your choice to smoke? well.. the only person i whinge to about smoking is my mum, and that's just because i don't want her to die, and that has a direct impact on me i think!
but honestly, and i am being serious here - can you expand on the 'how to be considerate to smokers issues'? If this discussion is going to be well rounded, us non-smokers need some insight on how to be better non-smokers as well
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Entropope , your argument falls apart when you consider how many non smokers are actually ex smokers
 
hmmm... how can non-smokers be considerate to smokers...?
as a smoker myself, there are basic things that i do to be considerate, e.g. make sure that other people are not directly down wind of the smoke, making sure the lighted end is nowhere near anyone, ask those around me if they mind if i light up, etc.
i know this sounds absolutely preposterous but non-smokers can save smokers like me a lot of guilt (not to mention save themselves a lot of discomfort) if they were a bit more vocal. like if my smoke was bugging a non smoking friend, i honestly do appreciate it if s/he says so, rather than suffers in silence.
also, when in crowded places like at a club (thought NOT on a dance floor), i think most smokers would appreciate it if non smokers would be conscious of the fact that people ARE holding cigarettes and hence not just obliviously walk through. we feel bad (well i do) if someone gets a burn from the ciggie butt, and it's irritating when the lighted end gets tipped off and we have to relight it... =D
but that's just me. i'm not saying that smokers are gods and that everyone has to accomodate them, but just a few little actions could make things so much better for both parties...
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heehee I was 80% joking aye?
If the smoker is not doing things described by desire to be considerate, then fuck them. Tell them what they're doing and to fucken stop, I do, and I'm a smoker. They don't realise they're doing it most likely, and if they just don't care, then you have to shove your schooner glass up into their mouth, breaking it on their teeth... preferable just as they're taking a drag on their cigge..... or something like that.
But to be considerate to smokers, just don't be picky and try to compromise and work around the fact that they smoke, rather than just complain and make them change their habit/ways/neccessity. That's about it I think... maybe I was thinking something completely different... but I know I had some point that at least seemed very valid at the time.
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Ecka sorry... but Please explarrrn?
 
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