Why do amphetamine comedonws (adderall/vyvanse) make me pms

[Intenselife]

Hey, so you guys are in luck that it won't be a 5 page letter post, since i'm kinda starting to comedown off my prescribed dose of 60mg, which i only take twice a week usually 120mg (and no even with no tolerance it doesnt make me feel like dying, but a rougher comedown). My sister who is 4 years older then me, and a nurse says that I act exactly like women do when their pmsing when I occassionally take my vyvanse or adderall. Granted that i'm gay and prescribed benzos as well, I have been tested multiple times to hormonal imbalances partially do to constant depression for 10 years (22 now).

Either way, I mean I drink green tea which helps some of the comedown, i'm prescribed klonopin (although sometimes it makes me more depressed during the comedown but less anxious but just adds to unmotivated), I also exercise sometimes, eat a lot of almonds for dopamine boost, take magnesium and fish oil omega 3 daily, and while all this helps tremendously, usually I still feel pretty shitty sometimes worse then others sometimes better. Basically let me just say, I'm having cramps, I'm constantly peeing, I'm having bloating from the constant peeing, Migraine (all those remedies reduce it though), I feel real irritable (not real angry though, but more less likely to take offense to things/emotional). Slightly more irritable, don't wanna be around people that say something that I could normally ignore but probably would upset me in the awful comedown stages. Minor sore joints, nipples getting harder (because of increased sex drive). Sometimes random crying spells, I could worry about the same issue for hours and hours, a lot of mind racing, very jumpy to loud noises, or fits about things that already bother me, constant state of things i'm anxious about but only 10x worse then normal, wondering if i'll feel back to how i normally feel which isn't that great anyways, etc etc etc

GIRLS: Would you think that atleast some of things that I mentioned would resemble pms symptoms as a result of amphetamine crash. Oh and by the way from a blood test, I was able to prove that when I'm coming down off an amphetamine my hormones do go very crazy.

Sounds like a stupid question, but i'm just curious since i'm tired of having all these friends who are girls and are always pmsing at different times, and sometimes an amphetamine comedown makes me act very similar towards how they describe how they feel.

 

[abracadabra girl]

LOL This is great. I was actually going to post a kind of similar question but you summed it up. Really the only thing i notice on comedowns is that I am super irritable and bite people's head off. Kind of like PMS.

 

[Intenselife]

Yeah, thanks I don't feel so unusual anymore. Comedowns for me are even more spikes of different emotions on top of the ones I already have. However I know everyone says that amphetamines are not physically addictive and I somewhat agree especially in comparison to other drugs, but I do get physical symptoms to coming down and i'm assuming most people do to (unless they use other drugs/tricks to get rid of it, kind of like me if i can).

I get these nasty body aches that sometimes are worse then others, I don't worry too much about the heart rate because I am prescribed klonopin so it helps with that. But sometimes I get fixated on something that is bothering me. Also I do get emotional when coming down sometimes as well at the most stupid things, and unusually my stomach (I am starting to think my liver) is having some sort of slight pressure with occassional cramps, and of course migraines varying in intensity. Oh wow I mentioned all of that at the beginning of the thread, I'm confazzled i've been smoking weed and took my klonopin and vitamins and green tea etc, but I defeated the anxiety part and feel sort of tired and just sitting their, the lack of interest shit has started to kick in and I can't find anything at the moment to keep me busy that's entertaining.

I usually find stuff saved for when I feel the comedown is coming so that way I can delay it by getting distracted in multiple tv shows or something of that sort. Now i'm kinda at the point of what I call "no return". I use that to describe where you just feel so spacy, worried, depressed, mild physical pain, and complete lack of interest in doing anything.

Ughhh and after browsing thousands of articles of amphetamine comedown cures I haven't found one legal way of helping it all the way. (green tea, exercise sometimes, klonopin, stretching, marijuana, magnesium, fish oil daily omega 3, i mean wtf.

 

[abracadabra girl]

I would take benadryl or flexeril or something and go to sleep.

 

[Intenselife]

I hate that part of the comedown when you feel like you are ready to go to bed and feel like you easily fall asleep, and find out you just ended up laying their for hours unable to sleep. Of all the drugs I have recreationally tried (which is most of them) amphetamines are the only one who have such a rough comedown/side effects that are pretty gradual and increase and then very slowly decrease.

The only reason I thought of comparing it to PMS is because I have other female friends who say that is pretty close to how to feelings of how a girl feels every month usually atleast to some degree. Again amphetamines are also the only drug I have taken recreationally or once in awhile that can result in sudden mood swings, irritablity, confusion, depression, abdominal cramps, soreness in the body etc. Not cocaine, heroin, benzos, alcohol, opiates etc etc but I know those are worse long term etc but i'm talking about once in awhile no tolerance.

I haven't had the same experience with the PMSING (hate it) when coming down off amphetamines with ANY other drug in the short term. Ugh I am on the rollercoaster, lets see what loops and twists today will entail. I told my mom that my man period is going to start soon, and that i'm going to be feeling "off" which she usually can tell, but lately I just go to my room and ride the symptoms out etc.

 

[Crashing]

Usually some good old mary J will help to curb many of those dirty lingerers. Never experienced pms but sounds pretty accurate, although my nipples stay the usual. %)

 

[Hecticus]

Stimulant abuse results in depression. The benzo's won't help when it comes to lettting the misery out either. Maintain a steady dose or don't do it at all.

 

[mr druggles]

Wtf how long have I been using these extremely enthusiastic filled with complex personality voices when reading lol

no relevance to the thread just chillin on my comedown I dont know whether to carry on waiting the comedown out and go to bed or get wired again back in the day that was indeed very much so a very simple question

them fuckin voices lol if you could hear them you would literally just drop dead I actually cant stop laughing

 

[AlphaMethylPhenyl]

Stimulant abuse results in depression. The benzo's won't help when it comes to lettting the misery out either. Maintain a steady dose or don't do it at all.

Yeah pretty much the only way to healthfully negate the comedown is to importantly not exceed your daily dose and secondly to do something relaxing which doesn't involve other substances like meditation or exercise.