Heroin Why can't I rush well anymore without pain? Help!

[burn out]

So anyone who is familiar with me knows that I am a heroin addict. I also happen to be one of the heroin addicts who loves the IV rush more than the high. Sometimes, I don't even WANT to get high on heroin (because it makes me sleepy and lazy if I take alot and isnt good for getting stuff done) but I will shoot up anyway, just for that heavenly rush.

Anyway, it has always been the case that if I inject too much heroin at once, I will get an extremely painful and itchy rush. My ears and face and occasionally legs (especially if I inject in a vein there) will itch like crazy and it will also feel like I am being stabbed with thousands of pins and needles all throughout the inside of my body.

The pain-itch used to only happen when I injected doses on the high side. However, it seems to happen even if I just inject a normal dose. The rush will hurt and then I wont even be that high following it. I want the rush to be intense, but not be painful or overly itchy like it used to.

 

[Tommyboy]

Wait for a different batch, unless this has been happening with several different batches, then maybe look into taking an antihistamine before you IV.

 

[Swimmingdancer]

Agree with Tommyboy. This used to happen to me only when I would get certain product. Sometimes it was cut with morphine, which I believe has more of a pins and needles effect, at least for me it did. In the meantime, take less. If this is happening to you constantly over a long period of time and/or when you know it's been multiple batches or suppliers, then maybe you are developing a sensitivity to the histamine reaction or are just doing too much.

 

[tricomb]

Be sure to properly micron filter your solutions for intravenous injection.

 

[burn out]

Be sure to properly micron filter your solutions for intravenous injection.

That's a joke, right? Micron filters cost almost $5 each. I am a heroin addict. Do you think I can afford to spend $5 extra for every shot I take? Not to mention the fact that some heroin is lost in the process of micron filtering?

Furthermore, it is not necessary to micron filter heroin, which was produced for injection. Obviously it is ideal, but the vast majority of heroin addicts throughout history have not micron filtered and a great many of them are still kicking (and many of the ones who aren't, did not meet their demise in a way that would have been prevented by a micron filter). So while it is a nice luxury, a micron filter is hardly a necessity for heroin. My understanding, was that micron filters are necessary for injecting certain pills over the long term, because otherwise particles from the pills binders and fillers can build up in the body.

 

[Swimmingdancer]

That's a joke, right? Micron filters cost almost $5 each. I am a heroin addict. Do you think I can afford to spend $5 extra for every shot I take? Not to mention the fact that some heroin is lost in the process of micron filtering?

Furthermore, it is not necessary to micron filter heroin, which was produced for injection. Obviously it is ideal, but the vast majority of heroin addicts throughout history have not micron filtered and a great many of them are still kicking (and many of the ones who aren't, did not meet their demise in a way that would have been prevented by a micron filter). So while it is a nice luxury, a micron filter is hardly a necessity for heroin. My understanding, was that micron filters are necessary for injecting certain pills over the long term, because otherwise particles from the pills binders and fillers can build up in the body.

Yes (pure white) heroin was produced for injection, but unless you live in a country where you are legally prescribed pharmaceutical grade heroin then it's going to have a whole lot of other crap mixed into it. But you are right that micron filtering of heroin may not really be a realistic option for a lot of heroin addicts. But you can still filter it, many needle exchanges and HR centres have decent filters available for free (at least far superior to using a cigarette filter of a cotton swab).

In addition, a lot of people on here think that re-using a micron filter is still safer than using a cotton. See this thread for info on how to clean them for re-use: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/archive/index.php/t-481622-p-8.html

 

[ahkwa]

Sounds like a histimamine reaction to me. Take a dramamine before you dose. It might be cut with morphine like swimmingdancer said.

 

[xxxyyy]

i can see where you're coming from, there's even a more or less colloquial term i heard in detox "Nadelgeilheit", literally meaning needle horniness, where the act oj injection is every bit as important as the drug that it introduced to the bloodstream and the effect it brings. apparently it's not uncommon, i guess your brain is so wired that the act of pushing a needle into a vein is almost, equal or more gratifying than the high itself. i wish i could offer some good advice, personally i found after a while a lot of injections i was giving me had almost no actual rush apart from the placebo.
generally though, there's nothing wrong with IV injections if done properly, however when done frequent under questionable hygiene it can really fuck you up. an old connection of mine lost his left arm his way because he shot up a unfiltered temazepam (i think, it's been a while).
also, i've come to appreciate intravenous injections so much more since they're not my MO anymore, but this will probably help you sweet fuck all.
sorry i couldn't be of more help. and i hope that things take a slow turn for the better for you.


urgh, once again not read the thread completely. i've been awake for nearly two days, so i hope that excuses it somewhat. (i also did take way more drugs than i planned to)

i had one batch of heroin - although i doubt to this day that it was heroin that felt like what i imagine a massive IV dose of strong barbiturates to be. it was the only shot in my life that knocked me straight out cold, but there wasn't more than say 40-50mgs powder in the spoon, i was out before and i had forgotten to add ascorbic acid, but strangely enough i woke up maybe fifteen minutes later. at home i sniffed a very small line of it (the powder looked exactly like h, whitish-brown). it did have a pronounced effect, just not a pleasant one, imagine being awake for 4-5 days with little water and food. i kind of regret it now that i dumped it, i'd be really curious to know whatever the fuck that was.

 

[caseface99]

This never happened to me until i tried tar, i attributed it to morphine/other alkaloids because it was very similar to a morphine rush IMO. Never happened when i was using china.

 

[tricomb]

Micron filtration should be performed for intravenous injection of any kind. Heroin may have been made for IV use, but it sure as hell isn't prepared properly by the majority of users.

No significant amount of heroin is lost during filtration, you would not feel the difference. Just like particles from pills accumulate in your body, so do particles from injected heroin, which is not sold pure. Have you seen black tar heroin? You wouldn't want to be shooting the stuff without proper filtration, but the same goes for east coast powder dope.

If you refuse to micron filter, the best you can do is a sterile compacted cotton which filters out particles larger than 50um, while a micron filters out everything larger than 0.2um typically.

Never apply heat, use cold water and micron filters.