Why can't I catch a nod (heroin)?

[BoxOfRain32]

Just curious if anyone has any theories on why I have never been able to nod off while on opiates? Or if this happens to anyone else? Feel free to share your experiences either way.

I do east coast powder, IV. I'll admit the dope I'm getting now isn't top notch but it's not too shabby either. Even when I've gotten fire I never nodded but that was when I was just chippin'.

Could it be I'm just not doing enough? Even when I up my dose I've never caught that blissful nod, although perhaps I still didn't up it enough. When I first started I would throw up quite a bit and still not hit that sweet spot.

When I use to do pills I never nodded out either. I'd chill with my dealer and we would do the same amount throughout the day and he would be nodding off hard..meanwhile I was just chillen. Esp when I was doing pills I felt like I would start to throw up before I would get as high as I wanted to be/as everyone else seemed to be. That use to be really frusterating.

So what do you think is my 'problem'? Anyone else deal with this? Or anyone nod easily and/or all the time?

 

[szuko000]

In my like 2 years of daily dope doing I didnt nod as often as you would think. Seriously in that time I probably achieved 2 dozen nods and the majority of them being as you stated after that point of being sick. Basically I would do too much and be vomiting but inbetween that i would be nodding. The only other times were when it was very late and I should be sleeping, it was like the dope put me in some weird sleeping but not stage where I would talk out loud but be asleep.

But for the most part dope got me high but I didnt have to "worry" about nodding. Sure its great and desired sometimes but at least for me it wasnt the whole point of dope.

 

[BoxOfRain32]

Right! I should be grateful I don't have to worry about nodding, esp when I need to seem sober. And its usually not that big of a deal but sometimes I see people nodding and get SO jealous.

I still get high and obviously enjoy it but it would be nice to enter that realm and really leave reality for a bit.

 

[Burnt Offerings]

I haven't done heroin all that much, but for what it's worth I've only "nodded" once. I used to think that the nod was just a standard part of the H high, like being restless or fidgety on meth, but apparently that's not the case.

In my particular case, though, I think it has a lot to do with how strong the dope is.

 

[P.o.T.u.S]

I have never done heroin but ive tried most other opiates and i cant seem to nod like the blissful nod that everyone talks about.. unless i take a shit ton.i dont think its what other ppl consider a nod its more like passing out after puking and waking up because im gasping for air..rough time in my life...thats the only nod i can achieve but alot of other people tend to be able to nod everytime they take opiates even on a moderate dose

 

[BoxOfRain32]

So maybe it really just depends on the person. Before I got into I use to think it was just part of the high automatically too.

P.o.t.u.s...that def sounds scary, happy you never completely fell out!

 

[P.o.T.u.S]

Thanks boxofrain...i used to think that the nod was automatic as well before i tried opiates..i used to watch many friends just peacefully close there eyes and nod..but i like being able to take a moderate dose and easily stay awake and enjoy my high..its easier to function in daily life without anyone knowing im high %)

 

[BoxOfRain32]

Thanks boxofrain..i used to think that the nod was automatic as well before i tried opiates..i used to watch many friends just peacefully close there eyes and nod..but i like being able to take a moderate dose and easily stay awake and enjoy my high and be able to function in daily life without anyone knowing im high %)

Exactly! That's the good part about it. And side note... I'm not sure if anyone has problems with pinned pupils but i have found a magical solution. Its eyedrops called Opcon-a eye allergy relief..and of you put a decent amount of drops in it really makes your pupils bigger. This has been a life saver for me. I even just tried the cvs brand and they worked too.

Anyone out there nod almost everytime they use? Do you prefer to nod?

 

[methkite]

east coast dope? wya?? drink a 6pack and pop a zanny before you do a shot. and when you do do the whole half, youll be noddin gaurentee it. smoke ganja too, before hand

 

[trutexan]

Mexican tar.

 

[P.o.T.u.S]

Great harm reduction methkite

 

[simco]

east coast dope? drink a 6pack and pop a zanny before you do a shot. and when you do do the whole half, youll be noddin gaurentee it.

as potus notes: not exactly in the spirit of harm reduction.
if you look through the back catalogue of the OD forum you'll see a ton of threads about mixing benzos (or any other CNS depressants) with dope. bad. fucking. plan.
it *is* true, the only time i ever nodded was when i stupidly did dope on top of benzos. and then i went into full-on OD. that's some scary shit, and a bad cocktail.

 

[trutexan]

have not had any H since the 80's,what happened ? cause back then we always nodded. is it weaker now/more cut?

 

[szuko000]

east coast dope? wya?? drink a 6pack and pop a zanny before you do a shot. and when you do do the whole half, youll be noddin gaurentee it. smoke ganja too, before hand

As others have mentioned to you this is a harm reduction form and as such if someone is experiencing a lack of effect from a substance common practice is to either figure out the factors causing the issue, medication or life habits interacting, or to try to convince them to abstain in an effect to recapture the feelings past. What we shouldnt do is tell them to take more or mix drugs, this is often bad and sometimes fatal advise. How would you feel if he took your advise and 3 days later we have his g/f or mother here asking why we told their loved one to go kill themselves? It is not what you want to be known for doing and it is not the message we are sending.

Please take the time to consider how your responses effect others lives. I am not saying that methkite is a bad or wrong person here but this goes to all of us on BDD, we are often the first stop, lets not make it someones last.

 

[BoxOfRain32]

Szukoo, very well written response.

Methkite you are indeed right I am sure I would be nodding but as others have said..not the best HR! I've sadly had a seasoned user of H and wonderful friend OD by taking benzos and drinking when he thought he wouldn't be able to score that day..and he wound up scoring. He did less then his normal dose of h but that evil combination still sent him away.
=-(. Anyone out there mixing these PLEASE be careful!

And what I meant earlier was the fact that I have never been able to nod..no matter the amount/tolerance/opiate. Wasn't sure if it was my body chemistry and if anyone else was this way too. and how people who ALWAYS nod feel about/if they like it etc

 

[TheLostBoys]

I for one, never liked nodding, just font like being in that phase.

Question: is there a thin line between nodding out & overdosing?