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Why are we here? V Philisophical Nonsense begins....

Eveleivibe

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Hiya,

I often ask myself the question; "Why am I here?" I'm sorry I know that this is slightly deep n I considered doing a blog journal or maybe producing something in the philosophy sub-forum. Anyhow, before I do this I want like to put the question to my dearest EADD folk.....

You're answer to the question; "Why are we here?"

I'd like some paragraphs and some deep thoughts, rather than a simple one word answer.... It would be interesting to hear your thoughts...... I'll write something when I'm in a better frame of mind.....

Evey
 
I often wonder along the road,
No matter how old,
I get, no matter what comes along the way,
There's so many words, so much to say,

Why are we here?
Why do I continue along this way?
Will I ever be any near,
To answering that questions to so often come along the way?

What is the point of existence,
When everyone's physical journey comes to an end?
Are we all but a bunch of cunts,
We just decay and rot, there's no way, nothing will ever mend?

Is there a reason for this life?
Is there a beyond, a hidden agenda?
Or are we cut dead, chopped by a knife?
When we die is there owt else as we end the physical, simply surrender?

What is the point to history?
Will philosophy be but a fucking mystery
Why do I walk down the same road?
Will I do know, before I grew old?

All these endless prophetic dreams,
They warn me but not in time they lead to endless means
So many bloody whys,
Is everyone we see, feel, touch, plastered in endless lies?

What is your philosophy?
Is it the same as what I see?
Are we all entwined, a kinda spider web,
Is there more out there that all that's done and said?

Please let's here your opinion
Because discussion is interesting when all is said and done
It excites imagination
And hopefully brings a lil' conversation

Evey 2/4/2015
 
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Latest research I said suggested life was inevitable given a favourable environment because it's the most energy efficient way of molecules bonding together or something.

Best argument I heard against the existence of life after death was that entropy always goes to the most disorganised state - so keeping you organised enough to be a soul floating round in heaven wouldn't follow.
 
We ain't really here. Spirits are controlling us and eveyrhing is just an projection and our weird brain controlled by the spirit just doesn't gets it :D one day theres gonna be a star gate invented so we can turn into our real reptilian creatures and destroy the universe. The spirit wrote that.

lolol. Good morning =D
 
We are here simply because of an amazing series of chance factors which has led to our planet being totally suited to nurture, protect and sustain life from the very first proto-cells to human intelligence.

For example,

The universe is old enough for the heavy elements required by life to have been forged in previous generations of stars, but young enough to be a long way from the 'heat death' it will ultimitely face.

Our neighbourhood in the galaxy is relatively quiet, so we've managed to (narrowly) avoid being destroyed thus far.

Our star is of just the right mass to sustain prolonged steady fusion for billions of years, allowing time for planetary formation and evolution.

Our planet is orbiting at just the right distance from the sun for liquid water to be the normal state and is the right mass to stop our atmosphere from boiling away. Earth is also tilted on its axis which helps distribute the suns energy more evenly than a vertical axis, leading to a relatively narrow temperature range over the planet.

Then we have a moon which was spawned from earth while we were still cooling. This moon has enough mass to exert the tidal forces necessary to drive Earths geological processes such as plate tectonics. It also helps keep the Earth's iron outer core liquid around the solid inner core - this results in the dynamo effect that creates our magnetosphere which deflects most of the harmful charged particles from space such as cosmic rays and the solar winds. Much of the UV radiation from the sun is blocked by the ozone layer, and thanks to the greenhouse effect of carbon we are not locked in a permanent ice age.

Then during life's evolution, there have been enough catastrophic events to cleanse the Earth of the evolutionary dead ends and make way for a species that can adapt to survive.

The Earth is an integrated system of cycles and feedback loops which means everything is in a constant state of flux and rebirth. All of these factors have conspired to allow life to evolve without being destroyed as soon as it gets a foothold. Life is a constant struggle against entropy and without all these systems in place it would probably not have got any further than bacteria.

So that's the basis of why WE are here...
 
What Fubar said. :D

I think that its a bit of a 'wrong turn' in our thinking to be questioning why we are here.

I was going to say something similar to what Fubar said but much briefer like "literally because of evolution". Im massively opiate hung over today and i can barely think, but those chance factors of everything turning out just perfectly so that we could not only live, but also humans went beyond mere existence with the evolution of consciousness and self-consciousness and an awareness of self so that we could ask these sort of questions. Some of them useful and some of them not.

We are here because of amazing series of chance factors and luck, and evolution over billions of years, and scientifically speaking there is not much more to it than that.

I dunno if there are any other religious folk on here apart from Raas but they tend to have a completely different outlook(one that came from the middle ages. :p:D
 
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we are all just cockroaches scrabbling around in the dirt, it means nothing and is pointless.
 
Not so sure about those theories now fubar - big bang is turning out to be a load of bollocks by all recent accounts. Could be an infinite number of universes, ours might've been the only one with goldilocks coefficients for everything (for example if water boiled a few degrees cooler water-based life couldn't exist), or it could be one of million universes with life in all of the feckers.
 
mydrugbuddy said:
I dunno if there are any other religious folk on here apart from Raas but they tend to have a completely different outlook(one that came from the middle ages. :p:D

Uhummmm I'm a Christian too. You know this lol n so is NE. When I have a few drinks I get extremely philosophical hence thread lol.

Evey
 
I didnt have a clue as ive barely even dipped my little toe into the Theology thread. I guess that religious folk are gonna have a completely different set of ideas about this subject compared to the majority of members on here that seem to be far more secular in general.
 
“Is it possible that existence is our exile and nothingness our home?”
― Emil Cioran, Tears and Saints

Life is just insanity and little else, We're irrational beings because its key to our survival and if we were rational then we wouldn't of gotten this far. You're here to exist for a short while and little else, all evidence points towards the fact we are here to do nothing. We need our novelty though as we can't handle boredom; boredom is the killer of man. You're here to survive and reproduce and thats about it really.

Imagine if life was like a 24/7 MDMA high, you were happy all the time and therefore you would do nothing. You wouldn't survive very long...you might end up hugging the wrong person. There are some good analogies around this that are mentioned in Alex Shulgins documentary Dirty pictures. Pain and boredom is the only reason we do anything on this planet.

If you were happy all the time, you wouldn't need a heaven would you. But some people have to fantasize about something beyond our exile, they cannot handle the fact we're just a mistake. Believing in God takes all the strain out of thinking as well, humans want easy answers and what could be more simpler then Heaven and Hell. It requires no thought what so ever and thats why people believe, everyone lives in their own little bubble of reality.
 
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