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Who was up and stoned first?

Perkins : Reborn said:
Up at 7:30, coffee, shower, then 1mg etizolam with last night's sole leftover beer. Now sipping Guinness West Indies Porter and contemplating some decent hash before long.
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I was up around 8, with an absolute killer of a headache, I think caused by last night's Soma use.

So I made an immediate start on the pregabs (which are excellent for the headaches that ibuprofen, paracetomol, even the 8mg co-codamols won't touch) along with a maximum dose of red vietnam kratom (also meant to be great for pain killing), methylphenidate, and clonazepam. And yeah I can happily confirm that the killer headache has gone! I'm pretty sure that the OTC painkillers would not have helped, from previous experience of such headaches.

I find that weed destroys my attention span, so I'm best leaving anything like that until much later in the day, otherwise my whole day will be completely dysfunctional.
 
Bleaney said:
I was up around 8, with an absolute killer of a headache, I think caused by last night's Soma use.

So I made an immediate start on the pregabs (which are excellent for the headaches that ibuprofen, paracetomol, even the 8mg co-codamols won't touch) along with a maximum dose of red vietnam kratom (also meant to be great for pain killing), methylphenidate, and clonazepam. And yeah I can happily confirm that the killer headache has gone! I'm pretty sure that the OTC painkillers would not have helped, from previous experience of such headaches.

I find that weed destroys my attention span, so I'm best leaving anything like that until much later in the day, otherwise my whole day will be completely dysfunctional.
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Yeah, always found pregabs were good for that hangover headache, but I haven't used them in well over a year; maybe closer to two. Always seemed a little bit 'dirty' with unpredictable wobbles that make you look mildly drunk.

Hadn't touched etiz in a long time either, but these Etikem are easily as good as the Etilaam that were ubiquitous about ten to fifteen years ago.

My hash selection includes the option of a crumbly blonde variety that makes a good daytime smoke. It was sold to me under a particular 'brand name', but I know that most if not all of those names are just marketing bullshit.
 
Yeah I've just stuck to 100mg of pregabs, which is enough for painkilling but not for any noticeable or heavy 'intoxication', I think any much more than that and things can definitely become unpredictable.

I don't take pregabs very often at all, so don't have any tolerance. So even after saying that 100mg is a light dose, I can definitely feel it now, and it's added to the kratom, clonaz, and methylphenidate pretty nicely.

Anyone might think that I enjoy various combos of relatively low doses of multiple substances.
 
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I too cannot wake and bake, it's pretty much day over for me then (which has it's place on occasion though, just not often for me thesedays.

I'd also be fucked all day after an etiz plus a beer for breakfast as consumed above - i'm just a daytime lightweight in general (although I have had an opium//lisdexamphetamine combo already this morning and am still not yet out of bed, so I guess the 'lightweight' thing is relatively speaking)

Got a cat sitting on my leg atm asking for breakfast, very sweetly I may add. Ive told him that it would be nice if he could get the coffee on for once, but I guess he does bring other things to the table (dead voles, usually). Cats - gotta love 'em
 
I'm jealous of the opium//lisdexamphetamine combo. I'm sure it would be considerably better than my combo, although it is not bad at all. Really quite pleasant in fact.
 
Haven't seen opium for years - nor prescription amphetamines - but that sounds like one glorious breakfast.

Managed to get out of the house despite the combination of etiz and booze. Also handed in a phone somebody had left on a self service till, so hopefully I've made a positive difference to somebody's day.
 
Bleaney said:
I'm jealous of the opium//lisdexamphetamine combo. I'm sure it would be considerably better than my combo, although it is not bad at all. Really quite pleasant in fact.
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yours sounds ok too, in theory anyway

low-dose combos can really excel sometimes as more than the sum of their parts, but it can also be superdangerous if we don't know what we're doing eh

I can't do pregabs. Well, that's my impression anyway. The one and only time I tried I had to go sit with a mate for a few hours as was feeling actively suicidal after a small dose (50mg? the smallest dose it comes in I think anyway). I couldn't trust myself not to suicide anyway, which was quite the shock to the system and the only time I've experienced that. Have had mega low moments/periods in life of course and sometimes not been arsed if lived or died, but that remains the only time I've felt actively suicidal. Have never tried again but I do have a 300mg capsule in my stash
 
ageingpartyfiend said:
yours sounds ok too, in theory anyway

low-dose combos can really excel sometimes as more than the sum of their parts, but it can also be superdangerous if we don't know what we're doing eh
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Yeah it is good in practice too, surprisingly so! Maybe because the Red Vietnam Kratom goes well with pregabs, and I've not had either for some time.

I'm pretty sure I have some kind of inbuilt sense by now due to experience, of what is safe and what is not, as much as anyone does anyway, by just gradually working upwards, and gradually introducing extra elements, at lower doses.

Like last night for example I lost count of my soma doses. So I was very wary about adding my usual mirtazapine and benzos on top, before bed time. I knew or felt it could potentially be a lethaly dangerous combo of downers.

So I ate some food and waited for the soma to wear off before taking my prescribed mirtazapine, and a much lower than usual dose of Bzs.
 
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Pissed_and_messed said:
you mean during or after high? I have found and many other tell the same, that pregab can cause a bit of a depressive crash next day.
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During for sure - I was fine the next day. Can't remember for absolute certain but I think I had to go to mates for my own safety around 60-90 minutes after taking it and stayed there for three or four hours until I felt confident about not jumping off the nearest bridge

EDIT, I do still think about trying it again someday, lol. Reason being I have heard of quite a few people hating it on their 1st time but then liking it in future, @Zopiclone bandit being one example of that iirc? If I did try again though, I'd make sure I wasn't on my own
 
ageingpartyfiend said:
I can't do pregabs. Well, that's my impression anyway. The one and only time I tried I had to go sit with a mate for a few hours as was feeling actively suicidal after a small dose (50mg? the smallest dose it comes in I think anyway). I couldn't trust myself not to suicide anyway, which was quite the shock to the system and the only time I've experienced that. Have had mega low moments/periods in life of course and sometimes not been arsed if lived or died, but that remains the only time I've felt actively suicidal. Have never tried again but I do have a 300mg capsule in my stash
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I cant say I've ever had any substance make me feel suicidal. I had a bad reaction to Buproprion / Wellbutrin which gave me this horrible sense of impending doom. They ended up in the bin pretty soon!

I've said this before on here, but pregabs seem to be at the top of the list of substances that have wildly different effects across different individuals at varying doses. The "YMMV" old chestnut has never been truer.

I wouldnt go above 200mg, I find it nicer taking 100mg top ups every few hours. I think I once tried 300-600 mg and the head space felt exactly like a bad trip, only minus the psychedelia. Never again. I dont usually ever go above 150mg in a single dose.

I cant understand the many people who say they enjoy doses in the range of 1000-6000 mg and upwards. That sounds horrific (and dangerous) to me.
 
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Perkins : Reborn said:
I had a dalliance with it when I stopped weed for a while. Fell into daily use.

It's pleasurable enough when taken moderately, but it has a tendency to make you clumsy, forgetful and the weight gain is phenomenal.
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what kinda dose did you take?

I have no intention of using it regularly, but from what I hear it could be a decent addition to my medicinal rotation if I could tolerate it.

I may well just not bother of course.Have had the 300mg capsule in my draw for years! (My bad experience with it was around a decade ago)
 
Bleaney said:
I cant say I've ever had any substance make me feel suicidal. I had a bad reaction to Buproprion / Wellbutrin which gave me this horrible sense of impending doom. They ended up in the bin pretty soon!
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Yeah it really was quite the shock and really brutal

Was feeling ok mentally, some irksome nerve pain , had it on script from the doc to try for that. Then suddenly life was unbearable, not worth living even an hour longer and I was genuinely making plans to end it like there and then, wtf. Errrrrrr.

I remember telling the doc a week later and he was wide-eyed and wrote "allergic" on my notes and advised me not to take any more. Amazingly enough I'd kinda intuited that all by myself! Yeah, was extreme dysphoria
 
ageingpartyfiend said:
what kinda dose did you take?

I have no intention of using it regularly, but from what I hear it could be a decent addition to my medicinal rotation if I could tolerate it.

I may well just not bother of course.Have had the 300mg capsule in my draw for years! (My bad experience with it was around a decade ago)
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I was using those Signature 300mg caps; sometimes three at a time, sometimes two. Larger doses at weekends.

The tolerance is notorious though, so those doses came with diminishing returns high-wise, but still cushioned me from the harder edges of reality.
 
Perkins : Reborn said:
I was using those Signature 300mg caps; sometimes three at a time, sometimes two. Larger doses at weekends.

The tolerance is notorious though, so those doses came with diminishing returns high-wise, but still cushioned me from the harder edges of reality.
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Yeah I think that's what I have - a 300mg red and white capsule

Seems like there is a huuuge dosing scope with these. Have oft read of optimal doses being in the 600-800mg area (and higher) yet 25 (or 50, unsure) had me incredibly dysphoric. Again a poor initial experience seems quite common which is what occasionally tempts me to give it another shot sometime
 
Yeah, that's probably a Signature cap.

For recreational purposes, that 300mg might be enough if you pair it with a sensible dose of alcohol. If you have cannabis of whatever description then that'd be a bonus.

Can't imagine that combo would allow the pregab to manifest anything dark. You might want to make sure you have no delicate tasks to complete.
 
I've also found that pregabs go very well with alcohol - specifically whisky.

Unsurprisingly the effects of both are intensified in a way that feels like more than the sum of the 2 parts. It's a very nice combo. But I usually only take 100-150mg of pregabs. Perhaps I'm quite sensitive to it or something, but I start finding the negatives start outweighing the positives if I go much over that.
 
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