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Who is your "god"?

Smoke weed. Listen to it.
Don't tell it where to go, or what to do.
Let it guide your thoughts, let it take your body.

This is the first step.

Observe.
See what is around you. Notice the wind, notice the temprature, notice the clouds, the stars, the grass, the trees.
Begin to learn their names, understand where it is they belong in nature.
Deepin your observation, and begin to see why everything is where it is, and what is is doing, and what other things are doing to it...

Then look at things like humans, virus', and bacteria. Realize that this is the category we fall in.

We are a parasite, we gain from other beings loss.
The earth, the animals, the vegetation. The more it loses, the more we gain.

Then realize where YOU belong.
Are you purely part of the human parasite, or do YOU have a place in the Earth as well...


Once you begin to find your place, you will begin to understand.
And always remember.
Questions are the best answers. Don't EVER seek an end...

Yesterday is not right now, and today is not tomorrow.
Livin for the moment?
Then your time's already borrowed...
 
I want to explain some aspects of Voodoo...
First...Presentation:
Presentation is a BIG part of Voodoo.
If I SMELL like a rotting carcase, you can SEE that I am covered in animal blood/Have animal claws on necklaces and bracelets, you can HEAR me screaming curses, or just loud animal like sounds...And I have a sword with warpaint, and talismans all over it...

You wouldn't want to walk up and challenge me, with your leather helmet, shield, and wood/rock spear. Would you?



Another important part...
Communication. The (voodoo) people in Haiti, and the people in Cuba, talk to the people in America.
One instance that I can reference that you can look up, was on Gangland.
A Haitian (Voodoo adherent) gang in Florida gets information from the Haitians that live in Cuba, and work the docks.
The men that work those docks, find out what boats are carry what. And they tell old Voodoo wise men in America, then those wise men pass that information off to the gang members...The gang members then go rob the boats, knowing exactly WHAT is on it and WHERE.
And it's all like "A little birdie told me."
Another big part of that communication, is the OLD communicate with the YOUNG. They share in decisions and hardships.
And also Voodoo communities, just have a VERY strong sense of "community" in general. They understand that "It takes a village to raise a child."




Faith:
Faith is VERY important to them.
If you BELIEVE that something can happen, then it is 10x-1000x more possible to happen.
The elders understand this, and use it to promote strength and courage in the young community...(If you wear this necklace made of shit-balls, bullets can't hit you)
If that kid TAKES that necklace, and TRUSTS that elder, they are more likely to succeed, than if they went through the whole mission blindly, nervous AND afraid.

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Nature:
There is a strong understanding of nature. Voodoo communities understand their herbs, the trees, plants, animals, weather around them.
Some Voodoo practitioners are said to be able to speak to hippos, lions, or other animals(Through tonal noises, and body language). Gaining the animals trust, then sending the animal to attack a foe to protect the "spell caster".
They know when things are happening, based on the animals. There is an entire WORLD outside of human life, that most people don't notice. Many people think humans are the "center of the Earth's focus"...But this is not true, we are just the center of OUR focus. They understand more about that "background" world, than many of us EVER will...
Also, on the topic of nature is herbals.
Voodoo practitioners know the "magical" (chemical) properties of different plants, and are able to use that (Now, and more-so in the old world).
I have read of Voodoo practitioners using "fugu" or "blowfish" poison, to stun (stop heart/lungs ect. Literally killing them) people for days, then allowing them to awaken, and everyone now thinks they are dead.
At this point they drug the person with dumbing/numbing drugs and enslave them. Some believe this is what a "zombie" is...

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Colors.

In many other cultures, including the voodoo cultures. Colors have meaning.
Like when you see red.
You know that that is Automatically a "warning" or "danger" color. In other cultures blue, green, yellow, brown, red, white, black, and all colors have more of a personality than they do in America/English...

They understand/understood the ideas, and spectrum of color in a way that we can only begin to understand.
 
Time... Some people's god is Time...
Tick...Tock...Tick...Tock...Right?
Lets break it down.
Your cells split. As a child this has no repercussion, your cells do not deteriorate.
But as you leave adolescence, every time your cells split, they lose a little of themselves, and appear to become "older". Which in turn, makes you appear to become "older".
A "Year" is not a true measurement of your human form. It is simply a standard that we CAN live by. A year is simply the Earth moving around the sun one full time. A day, is the Earth turning. And hour is just a segment that was created to cut up, and label pieces of what we call "day" and "night".

Now, truly, some peoples cells PROBABLY deteriorate faster, or slower than other peoples, and therefore, some of us may be cellularly 30 years old, while our peers, are still cellularly 25-28-22-26. But you are all the same "Earth year" age of say...29...

Now there is the moment of NOW, and the illusion of "Future", and the memory of past.
But the only one that exists is NOW. You can be "aware" of the future and the past. But do not DWELL, seek refuge in them, or cling to them mathematically, grammatically, etc. Live with a sense of the universe that is BIGGER than time. Only then can you be timeless in thought.



Have you ever heard of "Kairos" time?
There are two "types" of time. Kairos, and Chronos. Documented by the ancient Greeks.

Chronos:
This form of time is scheduled time. When you are at work checking the clock every 5 minutes, or in your car staring at the digital clock, or checking your phone to see what time it is. If this sounds like you ALL day, then you are stuck in what is known as "Chronos" time.

Kairos:
The easiest way to explain this form of time is, "Time flies when your having fun." That REALLY over simplifies it, but it helps you understand how it works if you don't already. Kairos time is the time in which art is made... Deep thoughts are formed... Love is made... Passion is found... The Christians know it as "God's Time" (it is spoken of in the Bible).
 
casualuser said:
I am my God.
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I agree :D

ShaggyFin said:
I believe that in the Bible when they say "When two or more people gather in gods name, he is present." I personally accept that to mean that: The fact that 2 people, is a stronger force than one man alone, is a form of god.
And when the Bible says: "We are created in gods image" The are simply saying this...

1) When two (or more) people come together, each person is like a "cell organ" (ex: Mitochondria). And together, cell organs make a "cell".

2) There are many types of "cells" in this world. Groups of humans, Plants, Animals, Gases, Minerals etc. And when these "cells" come together, they form something like a tissue.

3) This tissue is what we know as "ecosystems" or "Biospheres" (such as deserts and rainforests). These "tissue" come together to create Planets, and Solar systems. Which is like Organs, such as a stomach, liver, heart etc...

4) These organs come together to form organ systems, similar to your respiratory system and circulatory system. But we call these systems "Galaxies".

5) These organ systems, or "galaxies" come together to form a complete ORGANISM or "Universe".

We know this organism as "God". But it is not listening to you. It knows about you, as much as you know about the cells in your own body. Do you cry when dead skin cells flake off? God cares just as much when we die.

But EVERYTHING we do effects god. EVERY cell organ (that's you), does what it does. And those actions come together ALL over the universe to make this universe what it is. We are all god, but we are all nothing in gods eyes (unless we happen to live in gods eyes... If he has eyes).
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The final observer, me at the deepest level (beyond my relative mind, the universal mind, etc). It is the same in me as it is in you, and everyone else. Just plain old awareness itself. It does not judge, it does not love, it just is.. just observing this hall of mirrors light show.
 
-=SS=- said:
The final observer, me at the deepest level (beyond my relative mind, the universal mind, etc). It is the same in me as it is in you, and everyone else. Just plain old awareness itself. It does not judge, it does not love, it just is.. just observing this hall of mirrors light show.
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Actually we may all have different levels of observation. For example, what if what you call "Orange" look to me like what you call "Blue". But we have been trained to call them "Orange" and "Blue" by parents and teachers and peers, so we never even realize that we are witnessing different phenomenon. Like what if refraction is different for everyone. What if the rainbow is different for me than it is for you.

And we use light to see. Imagine what aliens may be like. They may use sound to see. Or X rays. Or what if they don't understand waves and only receive chemical input, like the way your brain works on electro-chemical signals. What if there are species that can only communicate by spitting pheromones into each others mouths? Or that can only communicate through sex? Or what if there is a species that has NO senses except for "touch", so they communicate through violence and touching? (and in reality some of these qualities apply to humans and are not even alien concepts)

Observation and self awareness may be different for everyone and possibly everything.
 
All of that involves the mechanics of the brain and mind, not awareness. I agree with you about the colour analogy though, it is a very valid question, one that everyone should contemplate at some point in their lives. To add to that thought: We do not even really see what is actually there.. what we "see" is actually a representation constructed by our brains. But what is actually doing the "seeing"? At what point do the incoming light signals, the chemical reaction in the retina, nerves, brain matter, become something that is witnessed? And who or what is doing the witnessing? ;)
 
ShaggyFin said:
Actually we may all have different levels of observation. For example, what if what you call "Orange" look to me like what you call "Blue". But we have been trained to call them "Orange" and "Blue" by parents and teachers and peers, so we never even realize that we are witnessing different phenomenon. Like what if refraction is different for everyone. What if the rainbow is different for me than it is for you.

And we use light to see. Imagine what aliens may be like. They may use sound to see. Or X rays. Or what if they don't understand waves and only receive chemical input, like the way your brain works on electro-chemical signals. What if there are species that can only communicate by spitting pheromones into each others mouths? Or that can only communicate through sex? Or what if there is a species that has NO senses except for "touch", so they communicate through violence and touching? (and in reality some of these qualities apply to humans and are not even alien concepts)

Observation and self awareness may be different for everyone and possibly everything.
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:D

we do already communicate with pheromones, i wonder if that sense of communication could be harnessed and utilized as a controlled method of communication.

... you catch my drift ?
 
-=SS=- said:
All of that involves the mechanics of the brain and mind, not awareness. I agree with you about the colour analogy though, it is a very valid question, one that everyone should contemplate at some point in their lives. To add to that thought: We do not even really see what is actually there.. what we "see" is actually a representation constructed by our brains. But what is actually doing the "seeing"? At what point do the incoming light signals, the chemical reaction in the retina, nerves, brain matter, become something that is witnessed? And who or what is doing the witnessing? ;)
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That is a good question. I believe that the "self" is an illusion. Either we are nothing more than trillions of cells that have come together, that somehow believe it is one thing. OR we are really just brains living in a shell ("body") and that makes us feel like there is something conscious inside of us... But really that's just our brain we feel is "us".
 
panic in paradise said:
:D

we do already communicate with pheromones, i wonder if that sense of communication could be harnessed and utilized as a controlled method of communication.

... you catch my drift ?
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Yeah, I get what you're saying. And it definitely CAN be harnessed. Look at the way ants communicate. It's ALL pheromones.
 
ShaggyFin, I like the cut of your jib.

One of the most profound ideas I've taken away from the Dharmic / Indic worldviews is that the prime mover is entirely unknown and unknowable, and that our crude attempts to put faces and forms to this mysterious Ground Of All Being is forgivable, because it's the best we simple humans can do.
 
MyDoorsAreOpen said:
ShaggyFin, I like the cut of your jib.

One of the most profound ideas I've taken away from the Dharmic / Indic worldviews is that the prime mover is entirely unknown and unknowable, and that our crude attempts to put faces and forms to this mysterious Ground Of All Being is forgivable, because it's the best we simple humans can do.
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Most humans wouldn't understand "gods" if they didn't have faces. That's why they used to call lightning "Zues". People were scared and that's all they would listen to without being afraid "There's a guy up there deciding where the bolts go." so that makes me feel safer, since I'm a "good" person.

People are simple minded. We are really only about 60 generations passed Jesus', and we think we are "in the future". We have a LOOOONG way to go :D
 
I use Gods and Goddesses as a projection tool, but really my core spirituality revolves around Universal Love and Connectedness.
 
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