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Social Justice White/Straight/Cis/Male Privilege

The only lack of privilege for ANY member of a society is the result of being POOR.
Do you think Will Smith has no privilege for not being white?
or Elton John for not being heterosexual?
or Kamala Harris for not being white or male?
come on, this is all fireworks to distract us from what is really important, the power of money.
 
Neuroborean said:
The only lack of privilege for ANY member of a society is the result of being POOR.
Do you think Will Smith has no privilege for not being white?
or Elton John for not being heterosexual?
or Kamala Harris for not being white or male?
come on, this is all fireworks to distract us from what is really important, the power of money.
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Any member of a society, huh?

Okay. You're going to be reborn as either one of two people:

Person A) a poor, black, bisexual trans female

or

Person B) a poor, white, straight cis male

Which do you choose?


P.S. You live in a small town in Mississippi.
 
Bella Figura said:
*listens to Busta Rhymes - Arab Money*
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I liked B. Rhymes some years ago but stop listening to him after It Ain't safe no more (in general I don't listen to hiphop nowadays).
But you know, where I live is a touristic village and at least 50% of the richest people here are not natives nor whites... Loads of asians, hindus and middle eastern people.
 
Bella Figura said:
FYI hindus and middle easterns are Asian too.
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Depends on how do you want to measure that, if it is purely geographically then yes.
But in a cultural or genetic point of view, I wouldn't say that, in fact christianity would be asiatic under your umbrella.
If we think about languages the Indo-european is the root of all Old World cultural heritage and it also pivots around Iran and Turkey, the relatively "asian" Mesopotamia and Caucasic area..
I consider asiatic all those up the Nepal area and easter than Bangladesh.
 
birdup.snaildown said:
We've been through this before.
The ME is not entirely in Asia.
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Russia has a part of the country that is close to Europe and it is closer culturally to Western Tradition than to what is normally considered (anthropologically) to be "asiatic".
Same happens with Turkey, depends on which part. And in my opinion India is a very very unique place where in fact their genetic and cultural heritage is so peculiar that should be considered to be on its own. I consider it to be the hinge between East and West. But I understand those that consider them asiatic, no trouble with that. Is just that I like/tend to look deep in the historic roots of a cultural area more than a map so to speak.
Geographically even Caucasus and Turkey are Asia, but culturally... umm, is not clear.
I think is easy to think in terms of geography and religions, so you (whoever) may consider Islam as an eastern religion, but in fact it is closer to the Western paradigm than... confucianism, taoism, buddhism, animism...
 
mal3volent said:
Any member of a society, huh?

Okay. You're going to be reborn as either one of two people:

Person A) a poor, black, bisexual trans female

or

Person B) a poor, white, straight cis male

Which do you choose?


P.S. You live in a small town in Mississippi.
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No idea, I didn't live in Mississippi and I don't know how it works, but I can tell you that nowadays in some parts of Europe is better to be Person A than person B just for the fact that there's some positive discrimination towards minorities and all those in Person B group are considered to be privileged just because they are white and heterosexual when that is not the case at all, because 99% are still poor if they are unlucky. Maybe they're not discriminated directly, they are just buried into oblivion like all poor people is.
 
mal3volent said:
Any member of a society, huh?

Okay. You're going to be reborn as either one of two people:

Person A) a poor, black, bisexual trans female

or

Person B) a poor, white, straight cis male

Which do you choose?


P.S. You live in a small town in Mississippi.
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To be honest when you picture Person A, I consider that the fact of being bisexual or trans does not even matter in the sense that those "minority groups" are things that no one needs to know about, for example when you search for a job.
Who would even notice if you're bisexual or trans if you don't draw attention about it?
If you draw attention of the fact that you're male or cis or white you make a fool of yourself, of course. Nobody likes it, at least in Europe. It is normal that someone who draws attention to his or her peculiarities results in a more negative position compared to someone who does not draw "any attention" that would considered strange or overly conspicous at least to jobs that consist of customer service. Not other jobs like technical ones.
For the same reason, tall and attractive people with very good looks are often sought after in certain customer service jobs.
Does that seem wrong to you? To me a little, but I'm not crazy about it. I myself would rather see an attractive receptionist (male or female, gay or trans) than an orc from mordor.
Excuse me, maybe I'm too shallow! But the reality is that if you have to choice between two people of the same moral quality, experience and ability, you know who they're going to choose. And look, it may not be the straight, cis, white male. It depends on what job we're talking about.
 
birdup.snaildown said:
@Atelier3

No, I think that's what @tubgirl.jpg is saying? If a white person isn't a racist homophobic woman beater, then that stereotype shouldn't bother them. I think that's what he said, anyway Maybe I misunderstood it. Just asking for clarification, because if you apply that logic to the black community clearly it is problematic... so why does it apply to white people?

I don't understand.
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As I was like 1 of 3 white kids in a neighbourhood with 60+ kids, I grew up with more friends who weren't white than who were.
And somalian, ethiopian, kurds - none of them gave or gives a shit about ignorant stereotypes.
Here in Sweden the news are all about the "dangerous foreingers". None of them care.
Just as I don't give a shit if anybody talks about romani people in stereotypic terms. Why should I get rallied up over words? Why should them?
Eventually these idiots who rely on stereotypes are revealed and shunned. Okay, revealed and subjected to what they deserve.

I have no idea what the US is like, but I have never, ever heard or seen a white man being subjected to shit for being white, not in school or at work, not in Sweden or NOrway.
White people taking shits on minorities? All the fucking time. Everywhere. As long as I dont sayI'm romani, its all dandy - once I do, shit gets weird.

THere's no great white genocide coming, but reading this thread, it sure seems like an alarming number of people think so.
The paranoia is tangible.
 
tubgirl.jpg said:
As I was like 1 of 3 white kids in a neighbourhood with 60+ kids, I grew up with more friends who weren't white than who were.
And somalian, ethiopian, kurds - none of them gave or gives a shit about ignorant stereotypes.
Here in Sweden the news are all about the "dangerous foreingers". None of them care.
Just as I don't give a shit if anybody talks about romani people in stereotypic terms. Why should I get rallied up over words? Why should them?
Eventually these idiots who rely on stereotypes are revealed and shunned. Okay, revealed and subjected to what they deserve.

I have no idea what the US is like, but I have never, ever heard or seen a white man being subjected to shit for being white, not in school or at work, not in Sweden or NOrway.
White people taking shits on minorities? All the fucking time. Everywhere. As long as I dont sayI'm romani, its all dandy - once I do, shit gets weird.

THere's no great white genocide coming, but reading this thread, it sure seems like an alarming number of people think so.
The paranoia is tangible.
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There's nothing like a white genocide,
obviously the majority of people (whites in a white country) will not discriminate themselves, that's plain absurd.
The only thing actually happening is that the birth rates among white people are in a worrying decline, while that's not the case for the foreigners for the simple fact that they're used to have more children in much worse environments and situations.
Maybe that simple fact does not worry at all to all those people who live from day to day or those who consider that cultures are created and destroyed by mixing with each other every x hundreds or thousands of years, as if everything was a whirlpool of cultures from always and forever.
Not my opinion. The SELF-destruction of the West is one of the most remarkable aberrations in the history of mankind and even if it is not organized, it is precisely the result of the passivity and lack of valorization and nihilism in which our culture has fallen.
It is up to each one to choose what he wants to do with his life and in what way he wants to contribute and participate in the cultural and civilizational dissolution in which we live.
 
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