I broke my back in three places years ago and I used to live a state that didnt have medical marijuana moved to california and it was all good until i moved to texas. My question is i have the chance to ask for oxycodone but I have been reading around and apparentley they have reformulated a bunch of them which ones should I ask for so I can avoid any of that gel up junk getting in my veins and causing a storke or worse. Sometimes I need instant relief and dont want to look like a A hole tommorow and dont want to be stuck with worthless gelled up pills for three months. The only ones ive heardy can be either iv'd or parachuted and them actually work like the old 80's you could just let disolved in regular hot watter. Much thanks in adavnce thanks felloe Bluelighters happing hunting!!!!
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Which is the safest formulation of oxycodone for IV use?
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T. Calderone
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When seeing a new doctor for pain management, bring all your medical records/transcripts, MRI's, x-rays, recent prescription receipts, etc. Tell the doctor you feel the norco have too much tylenol and if he can switch you maybe. Don't go in asking for xxx medication because that raises red flags which you don't want to make a bad impression. I'm not sure how pain management works in Texas but here you have to go every month and you don't get refills on schedule II narcotics either way.
BiggDirty01
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Asking for a specific drug in pain management is the most obvious red flag with PM Doctors today. Most of these guys have their license on the line and no Doctor in 2012 is going to let you tell them what you want prescribed.
Now you can mention if certain drugs have helped your pain better than others but your post implies a sketchy plot...and coming from someone who has to toe the line like everyone else in legit pain keep getting hosed over by attitudes like yours which scare doctors from treating pain patients.
Now you can mention if certain drugs have helped your pain better than others but your post implies a sketchy plot...and coming from someone who has to toe the line like everyone else in legit pain keep getting hosed over by attitudes like yours which scare doctors from treating pain patients.
pillboxskid
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Well with all due respect my friend your all for the legit pain managment ect.I understand that just answer me 1 thing what the fuck you doing on here??
seeing that the only relief from old oc's were for swim to crush them down and mainline them for breakthrough pain and I know there are other people that do the same thing for recreational purposes I was figuring someone could simply asnwer me the question on IF THE ROXY 30's ir would still break down so my dog's cats friend could do that to obtain relief during breakthrough pain. Also my doc and I have a very "special" relationship as i got him from a referal of another one of his friends so he has always been very open to just give me what my dog ask/needs. AND btw the new time release oxys are shit i want to find whoever made them and donkey punch them in the face x10 they dont work for shit whenever i poop there is a alien like plastic thing floating around and my lower gi intestinal track gets torn up. thanks so far guys
Big dirty that is exactly what i did over the phone was tell him I used to be on roxy 30 ir and they cut me back on the noreco which i was wanting to try and he was cool with it. He filled my friends script for 90 xanax bars and 120 10/325 and changing the dose up over a yr w/o ever seeing him. He is a nice one to know
Swimmingdancer
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Perhaps you could have just asked "which is the safest formulation of oxycodone for IV use?" That would have made this thread easier.
In fact, I think I will change your thread title so you get more replies (it's always best to have a tile that clearly outlines your question). We can't discuss how to convince your doctor to prescribe you a specific drug or formulation though, I know you didn't seem to actually be asking that but just putting that out there. Whether or not it's a good idea to just go in and ask for a specific one with most doctors is another issue, but apparently you don't seem worried about that.
This thread borders on not really being acceptable, but personally I do think your question is acceptable since if you're going to be injecting pills it is in the interest of harm reduction for you to know which ones are going to be safest for injection.
Also I don't think it's necessary for people to question or criticize what you are doing on here, there are plenty of legit pain patients on Bluelight and plenty of people who are prescribed drugs use them in ways they aren't supposed to, whatever one's motivation is for doing so is not really anyone's place to judge here IMO, although you will likely encounter some resentment from people who feel that people abusing their meds can create difficulties for pain patients as a whole.
So the first thing I can think of is that a regular release formulation is going to be much better than an extended release (ER) formulation for injection. Many pain patients like to have an ER form and an IR ("instant" or regular release) form, so they take the ER form on a schedule and then use the IR form for breakthrough. If your main reason for injecting is to have fast strong relief from pain and withdrawals, it would be a great idea to see if you can keep your use to mostly oral - if you take your pills before your pain or WDs become too strong, it will be much easier to control. So that may be something you want to consider. BTW, most people on here seem to agree that oxycodone is not even worth injecting, that the only real benefit to injection is a faster onset and is not worth all the risks that come with injection.
Forms of IR oxycodone I am aware of:
Oxecta (made by King, which is owned by Pfizer) - contains excipients that make crushing the tablet into a powder difficult, instead causing it to break into chunks. When combined with water it forms a viscous gel making it nearly impossible to inject (at least not in a remotely safe manner). It also contains a nasal and respiratory irritant to make intranasal use unpleasant/unsafe. You obviously don't want to inject this one.
Roxicodone (made by Xanodyne) - The 5 mg Roxicodone tablets contain the inactive ingredients: microcrystalline cellulose and stearic acid. The 15 and 30 mg tablets contain the inactive ingredients: microcrystalline cellulose, sodium starch glycolate, corn starch, lactose, stearic acid, dye.
Generic oxycodone: There are many generics but here are 2 that I know of that contain the least number of inactives.
5mg, 15mg, 30mg tablets made by Mallinckrodt Pharmaceuticals - Inactive Ingredients: microcrystalline cellulose, lactose monohydrate, stearic acid (+ dye in the strengths over 5mg)
10mg, 15mg, 20mg, 30mg tablets made by Ethex - Inactive Ingredients: magnesium stearate, microcrystalline cellulose, silicon dioxide, stearic acid (+ dye in certain strengths)
Now I have no personal experience with injecting the above mentioned pills, but as far as I've heard they shouldn't gel up. Did you find the Roxies were gelling up? A micron filter is extremely important when you are injecting pills, in order to filter out as much of the inactives as possible, as even some of the inactives contained in those generics are not healthy to be injecting. Let me know if you want detailed info on the risks of injecting specific inactives.
If you were meaning some type of ER oxy then that is a whole other ballgame.
In fact, I think I will change your thread title so you get more replies (it's always best to have a tile that clearly outlines your question). We can't discuss how to convince your doctor to prescribe you a specific drug or formulation though, I know you didn't seem to actually be asking that but just putting that out there. Whether or not it's a good idea to just go in and ask for a specific one with most doctors is another issue, but apparently you don't seem worried about that.
This thread borders on not really being acceptable, but personally I do think your question is acceptable since if you're going to be injecting pills it is in the interest of harm reduction for you to know which ones are going to be safest for injection.
Also I don't think it's necessary for people to question or criticize what you are doing on here, there are plenty of legit pain patients on Bluelight and plenty of people who are prescribed drugs use them in ways they aren't supposed to, whatever one's motivation is for doing so is not really anyone's place to judge here IMO, although you will likely encounter some resentment from people who feel that people abusing their meds can create difficulties for pain patients as a whole.
So the first thing I can think of is that a regular release formulation is going to be much better than an extended release (ER) formulation for injection. Many pain patients like to have an ER form and an IR ("instant" or regular release) form, so they take the ER form on a schedule and then use the IR form for breakthrough. If your main reason for injecting is to have fast strong relief from pain and withdrawals, it would be a great idea to see if you can keep your use to mostly oral - if you take your pills before your pain or WDs become too strong, it will be much easier to control. So that may be something you want to consider. BTW, most people on here seem to agree that oxycodone is not even worth injecting, that the only real benefit to injection is a faster onset and is not worth all the risks that come with injection.
Forms of IR oxycodone I am aware of:
Oxecta (made by King, which is owned by Pfizer) - contains excipients that make crushing the tablet into a powder difficult, instead causing it to break into chunks. When combined with water it forms a viscous gel making it nearly impossible to inject (at least not in a remotely safe manner). It also contains a nasal and respiratory irritant to make intranasal use unpleasant/unsafe. You obviously don't want to inject this one.
Roxicodone (made by Xanodyne) - The 5 mg Roxicodone tablets contain the inactive ingredients: microcrystalline cellulose and stearic acid. The 15 and 30 mg tablets contain the inactive ingredients: microcrystalline cellulose, sodium starch glycolate, corn starch, lactose, stearic acid, dye.
Generic oxycodone: There are many generics but here are 2 that I know of that contain the least number of inactives.
5mg, 15mg, 30mg tablets made by Mallinckrodt Pharmaceuticals - Inactive Ingredients: microcrystalline cellulose, lactose monohydrate, stearic acid (+ dye in the strengths over 5mg)
10mg, 15mg, 20mg, 30mg tablets made by Ethex - Inactive Ingredients: magnesium stearate, microcrystalline cellulose, silicon dioxide, stearic acid (+ dye in certain strengths)
Now I have no personal experience with injecting the above mentioned pills, but as far as I've heard they shouldn't gel up. Did you find the Roxies were gelling up? A micron filter is extremely important when you are injecting pills, in order to filter out as much of the inactives as possible, as even some of the inactives contained in those generics are not healthy to be injecting. Let me know if you want detailed info on the risks of injecting specific inactives.
If you were meaning some type of ER oxy then that is a whole other ballgame.
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OPMARY74
Greenlighter
No disrespect intended...but I have to agree with pillboxskid...I AM IN REAL PAIN...AS ARE MANY OF US ON HERE...dont get me wrong...I also have used IV out of necessity to relieve pain...but like he said....we are.the ones who suffer due to the attitudes of othe PM patients....
OPMARY74
Greenlighter
Just wanted to thank you for this info...Im on Oxycontin...and IR oxycodone for breakthrough...and you are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT when you said that taking something BEFORE pain gets really bad is best....For me....I start to withdraw AS SOON AS MY OXYCONTIN WEARS OFF....and like alot of others...when I get low or run out of breakthtough meds...its AWFUL becuse these new OP oxycontin just stink!!!!!!
mrflowers00
Ex-Bluelighter
blue 30g roxicodone